Saudi F-15 Deal

[Quasar]

Nope! They're not stupid! The Boeing F-15SE Silent Eagle is an upgrade of the F-15E by Boeing using stealth features, such as internal weapons carriage and radar-absorbent material.

The F-15SE will use fifth generation fighter technologies to reduce its radar cross-section (RCS). Distinguishing features of this version are the conformal weapons bays (CWB) that replace the conformal fuel tanks (CFT) to hold weapons internally and the twin vertical tails canted outward 15 degrees to reduce radar cross section. The F-15SE will have a Raytheon AESA radar, and a new electronic warfare system from BAE Systems. This stealth will be optimized for air to air missions (against X-band radars). This variant will also have radar absorbing material where needed.

Unit cost has been estimated by Boeing at approximately $100 million, including spares and support. In contrast the F-15A/B unit cost was US$28 million (1998) and the F-15C/D, US$30 million (1998).

The Silent Eagle is aimed at current F-15 users such as Israel, Saudi Arabia, Japan, and South Korea, among others.

Cheers!

the deal is for F-15 "SA" not F-15 "SE" Silent Eagle

 

[longbrained]

The aircraft is an old one and is not even the SE model. Anyways, the first time Saudis bought F-15, under the deal a less capable version had been given to Saudis than those supplied to Israel. Furthermore under the same deal, half of Saudi F-15's were to be "stored" in United States and not transferred to Saudi Arabia. These stored aircrafts needed American permission to go to Saudi Arabia if any war happened. That was not all. Also according to the deal only Americans could supervise training and maintenance of the aircrafts. So this newer deal is also going to be same. On 8th May 1978, Times Magazine published a story about the sale of F-15's to Saudi Arabia and why Saudis needed these fighters, it goes on to quote then Prince crown Fahad as:

"As Crown Prince Fahd explains it, the Saudis' relationship with the U.S. involves a basic tradeoff: oil for security. They are prepared to hold down oil prices, expand their productive capacity and help protect the dollar−all of which are vital to the U.S. and its Western allies."

I wonder for this new deal of F-15's what they have offered Americans besides oil, protection for dollar, their souls and may be even their after life.

 

[Zabaniyah]

^Dude, give it a rest.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Great Deal
KSA get F-15SA and Israel Get F-35 I think anybody can see what is happening here.

by the way can somebody with whom KSA have gone to war in recent year
I knew about Houti tribes in Yemen and a border scrimmage with UAE over
some sand dunes .
and I heard When USA sold KSA the previous F-15 also they gave Israel the
codes to remotely turn off their tracking RADAR ,is it true ?

 

[Arabian Legend]

what a clever you are

Defense Security Cooperation Agency
NEWS RELEASE

84 F-15SA Aircraft
170 APG-63(v)3 Active Electronically Scanned Array Radar
(AESA) radar sets
193 F-110-GE-129 Improved Performance Engines
100 M61 Vulcan Cannons
100 Link-16 Multifunctional Information Distribution
System/Low Volume Terminal (MIDS/LVT) and spares
193 LANTIRN Navigation Pods (3rd Generation-Tiger Eye)
338 Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing Systems (JHMCS)
462 AN/AVS-9 Night Vision Goggles (NVGS)
300 AIM-9X SIDEWINDER Missiles
25 Captive Air Training Missiles (CATM-9X)
25 Special Air Training Missiles (NATM-9X)
500 AIM-120C/7 Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air
Missiles (AMRAAM)
25 AIM-120 CATMs
1,000 Dual Mode Laser/Global Positioning System (GPS)
Guided Munitions (500 lb)
1,000 Dual Mode Laser/GPS Guided Munitions (2000 lb)
1,100 GBU-24 PAVEWAY III Laser Guided Bombs (2000 lb)
1,000 GBU-31B V3 Joint Direct Attack Munitions (JDAM)
(2000 lb)
1,300 CBU-105D/B Sensor Fuzed Weapons (SFW)/Wind
Corrected Munitions Dispenser (WCMD)
50 CBU-105 Inert
1,000 MK-82 500lb General Purpose Bombs
6,000 MK-82 500lb Inert Training Bombs
2,000 MK-84 2000lb General Purpose Bombs
2,000 MK-84 2000lb Inert Training Bombs
200,000 20mm Cartridges
400,000 20mm Target Practice Cartridges
400 AGM-84 Block II HARPOON Missiles
600 AGM-88B HARM Missiles
169 Digital Electronic Warfare Systems (DEWS)
158 AN/AAQ-33 Sniper Targeting Systems
169 AN/AAS-42 Infrared Search and Track (IRST) Systems
10 DB-110 Reconnaissance Pods
462 Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing System Helmets
40 Remotely Operated Video Enhanced Receivers
(ROVER)
80 Air Combat Maneuvering Instrumentation Pods
Also included are the upgrade of the existing Royal Saudi Air Force (RSAF) fleet of seventy (70) F-15S multi-role fighters to the F-15SA configuration, the provision for CONUS-based fighter training operations for a twelve (12) F-15SA contingent, construction, refurbishments, and infrastructure improvements of several support facilities for the F-15SA in-Kingdom and/or CONUS operations, RR-188 Chaff, MJU-7/10 Flares, training munitions, Cartridge Actuated Devices/Propellant Actuated Devices, communication security, site surveys, trainers, simulators, publications and technical documentation, personnel training and training equipment, U.S. government and contractor engineering, technical, and logistical support services, and other related elements of logistical and program support. The estimated cost is $29.432 billion.
This proposed sale will enhance the foreign policy and national security objectives of the United States by strengthening our on-going strategically important relationship with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (KSA).
For the past twenty years the F-15 has been a cornerstone of the relationship between the U.S. Air Force (USAF) and the RSAF. The procurement of the F-15SA, the conversion of the F-15S fleet to a common configuration, and the CONUS training contingent will provide interoperability, sustained professional contacts, and common ground for training and support well into the 21st century.
The F-15SA will help deter potential aggressors by increasing Saudi’s tactical air force capability to defend KSA against regional threats. The CONUS-based contingent would improve interoperability between the USAF and the RSAF. This approach will meet Saudi’s self-defense requirements and continue to foster the long-term military-to-military relationship between the United States and the KSA. Saudi Arabia, which currently has the F-15 in its inventory, will have no difficulty absorbing the F-15SA aircraft into its armed forces.
The proposed sale of this service will not alter the basic military balance in the region.
This notice of a potential sale is required by law and does not mean the sale has been concluded.
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Those are for F-35.

This is for the F-15:

Boeing: Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing System (JHMCS) - Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing System (JHMCS) Home

Also used for F-16 and F-18.

dont skim read carefully

 

[Arabian Legend]

Great Deal
KSA get F-15SA and Israel Get F-35 I think anybody can see what is happening here.

by the way can somebody with whom KSA have gone to war in recent year
I knew about Houti tribes in Yemen and a border scrimmage with UAE over
some sand dunes .
and I heard When USA sold KSA the previous F-15 also they gave Israel the
codes to remotely turn off their tracking RADAR ,is it true ?

don't make up stupid stories

 

[Zabaniyah]

dont skim read carefully

My point is that the pic you posted is not even a Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing Systems and only used on the F-35

Note that the F-35 doesn't use a HUD, everything is integrated into the helmet.

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/vsi-gets-156m-expansion-on-f35-helmet-displays-contract-01923/

 

[AUz]

Wait ....So Saudis aren't getting F-15 S.E model? No Silent Eagle for RSAF?!

If true then this is a J O K E ! .... Spending BILLIONS of dollars for what?

Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is getting all the military hardware from all over the world...but for whom? Iran will never attack them..and Saudi Arabia will never dare to attack Israel....

 

[Deno]

the deal is for F-15 "SA" not F-15 "SE" Silent Eagle

Us will sell SE to KSA. KSA is one of the main founders of that project... Thats why US congress did not even answer Israels request for F-15 SE...

 

[Arabian Legend]

Wait ....So Saudis aren't getting F-15 S.E model? No Silent Eagle for RSAF?!

If true then this is a J O K E ! .... Spending BILLIONS of dollars for what?

Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is getting all the military hardware from all over the world...but for whom? Iran will never attack them..and Saudi Arabia will never dare to attack Israel....

do not mix up things bro >> this is another deal .. i will be posting the deal of the f15se in a while

 

[Quasar]

Us will sell SE to KSA. KSA is one of the main founders of that project... Thats why US congress did not even answer Israels request for F-15 SE...

as a F-15 variant F-15 SA is not a JOKE and it is/going to be one of the deadliest fighters in the world! and RSAF will be one of the deadliest AF not only in the region but also in the world as well!However, this is not chaning the facts that

-SA is not SE

-the deal is about 84 F 15 SA and upgrade of 70 F-15S to the F-15SA configuration!

-this is only used on the F-35

-"one of the main founders of that project" sory there is not such a thing

 

[Deno]

as a F-15 variant F-15 SA is not a JOKE and it is/going to be one of the deadliest fighters in the world! and RSAF will be one of the deadliest AF not only in the region but also in the world as well!However, this is not chaning the facts that

-SA is not SE

-the deal is about 84 F 15 SA and upgrade of 70 F-15S to the F-15SA configuration!

-this is only used on the F-35

-"main founders of that project" sory there is not such a thing

I didn't say SA is SE I said KSA is one of the major founders of SE

 

[Quasar]

Why you said to me? hindistanli arkadas bana giciklik yapti bende ona yapayim dedim

anyway! I love your style.

 

[kollang]

I don't know about founder but surely an intended market.

you dont look stranger for me

 

[Tshering22]

Us will sell SE to KSA. KSA is one of the main founders of that project... Thats why US congress did not even answer Israels request for F-15 SE...

But the Silent Eagle would already have been ordered if KSA was offered. But they are still going for the SA version which is customized yet conventional F-15 Eagle for Saudi. Silent Eagle would have made headlines if it had been ordered.