Saudi bonds deepen with partner India

[Ganga]

Let me broaden this discussion a little... I have seen first hand why Goras like Indians... Indians are given preferred treatment across the British society for the following reasons...

Indians are good at doing Gee Hazoori to their Gora masters... People from Pakistan like to keep their dignity and do not bend over whenever a Gora boss demands... despite the fact that Indians bring plenty of problems along with them. I remember a woman was once telling me about a case she was dealing where there was tussle between two Indians in the same place... Reason. The boss was from an inferior caste and the lower grade higher caste person did not tolerate getting instructions from her boss...

Also... in having hidden anomosity towards Pakistan... The British and Indians are very much united...

Wont comment about Saudis... You all know my ideas about them...

That is entirely wrong.People prefer Indians because they are hard working and majority of them are sincere.

 

[Tshering22]

Let me broaden this discussion a little... I have seen first hand why Goras like Indians... Indians are given preferred treatment across the British society for the following reasons...

Indians are good at doing Gee Hazoori to their Gora masters... People from Pakistan like to keep their dignity and do not bend over whenever a Gora boss demands.

Where was your dignity when you signed CENTO? Gone to make pickles? We weren't the ones who went out of the way to sign agreements that flatten us. Indians are simply chosen because we're better skilled at work just like Chinese and others.

 

[somebozo]

That is entirely wrong.People prefer Indians because they are hard working and majority of them are sincere.

If you count gee hazoori as hard work and coverup for skill deficit. I will not elaborate much as I am already facing a mess today of similar scenerio.

BTW, I also faced problems with Indian juniors who would simple refuse instructions as well backdoor politics play due to caste system mentality. Worst ones are those from south. They are able to attract all the support they want due to 100% indian management incharge. Thanks Allah for the knowledge, my seat and career are very firm and will remain so in future.

 

[Peacefulll]

If you count gee hazoori as hard work and coverup for skill deficit. I will not elaborate much as I am already facing a mess today of similar scenerio.

BTW, I also faced problems with Indian juniors who would simple refuse instructions as well backdoor politics play due to caste system mentality. Worst ones are those from south. They are able to attract all the support they want due to 100% indian management incharge. Thanks Allah for the knowledge, my seat and career are very firm and will remain so in future.

Caste system mentality, eh? Actually, I have had the misfortune of working with extremely incompetent and useless Pakistani developers who claim knowledge of a million things at the start, but end up being the least productive and least knowledgeable of the lot. Wonder why, maybe a Mullah mentality? (I can think of lots of worse things to say, but lets leave it here).

 

[somebozo]

Caste system mentality, eh? Actually, I have had the misfortune of working with extremely incompetent and useless Pakistani developers who claim knowledge of a million things at the start, but end up being the least productive and least knowledgeable of the lot. Wonder why, maybe a Mullah mentality? (I can think of lots of worse things to say, but lets leave it here).

never ever hire a pakistani developer if he claims to know million things..many of these people dont even know what the wrote down in their CV. Mostly likely they copy pasted it from the internet. Wish you had consulted PDF before Thats because they have been taught at the madrassa to "allah tawakal" and undertake any task without serious consideration of their own capability

I once had three people walk in with the same CV but chaged names and personal details!

 

[somebozo]

Where was your dignity when you signed CENTO? Gone to make pickles? We weren't the ones who went out of the way to sign agreements that flatten us. Indians are simply chosen because we're better skilled at work just like Chinese and others.

And rest all are busy plucking nose? Its all about lowering cost. Where can you find an engineer for SR5000 who is willing to "jee hazori"? Most engineers are known to be hot heads and like to work authority free!

Ohh and there are more indians in gulf than chinese..which means going by your logic that chinese arent qualified either since they dont make any significant forgien worker in middle east?

Also like to clarify that forigen worker visas in saudi are issued under a policy undertaken jointly by Ministy of labour, finance and national security.

You see more Pakistanis in tough / labour jobs but more indians in office and intellactual jobs. Pakistan simply does not produce enough surplus engineers and doctors to feed overseas demand and a qualified engineer and doctor in Pakistan can get a fair value of his skills in the home country itself. Wages being offer to asian workers in KSA are not competitive in many cases.

 

[Ganga]

If you count gee hazoori as hard work and coverup for skill deficit. I will not elaborate much as I am already facing a mess today of similar scenerio.

BTW, I also faced problems with Indian juniors who would simple refuse instructions as well backdoor politics play due to caste system mentality. Worst ones are those from south. They are able to attract all the support they want due to 100% indian management incharge. Thanks Allah for the knowledge, my seat and career are very firm and will remain so in future.

What do you mean by caste system mentality?I have never seen an Indian treating another Indian badly in the ME because of his/her caste.Indians in the ME have a sense of unity irrespective of caste ,religion or any other factor.

Don't make up stuff here.

 

[Tshering22]

And rest all are busy plucking nose? Its all about lowering cost. Where can you find an engineer for SR5000 who is willing to "jee hazori"? Most engineers are known to be hot heads and like to work authority free!

And what would be the use if that engineer doesn't have required skills to get a construction done even if he's low cost? You see, that is where the fine balance between money and skill has to be seen. Arabs cannot find a better low-salary cost-effective engineer like Indians and hence you see so many Indian expats in Arab lands.

Ohh and there are more indians in gulf than chinese..which means going by your logic that chinese arent qualified either since they dont make any significant forgien worker in middle east?

Most Chinese like to work in their own country and we can see the development they've made. There are so many infrastructure projects within China itself that they get employed locally and don't have to go out. Whereas India is not as rapid as China and hence there's a gap between ability to create jobs and people finding the right ones. So you've more Indians in Middle East.

Chinese have nothing to do with this thread. I simply mentioned them because they're very skilled and hardworking.

Also like to clarify that forigen worker visas in saudi are issued under a policy undertaken jointly by Ministy of labour, finance and national security.

I never denied that. It is obviously a ministry level matter to let thousands of aliens work in your land.

You see more Pakistanis in tough / labour jobs but more indians in office and intellactual jobs. Pakistan simply does not produce enough surplus engineers and doctors to feed overseas demand and a qualified engineer and doctor in Pakistan can get a fair value of his skills in the home country itself.

You answered your own question with this line. What can I say?

Wages being offer to asian workers in KSA are not competitive in many cases.

But the point you raised what that Indians are ready to do "ji hazoori" while Pakistanis maintain their "dignity" to which, I gave the previous answer.

 

[muse]

Pakistan has a veto as far as relations with india is concerned,

and denial is a river in Egypt.

Why do the Wahabi Saudi and other Gulf countries prefer to invest more in India than in Pakistan?

 

[Tshering22]

and denial is a river in Egypt.

Why do the Wahabi Saudi and other Gulf countries prefer to invest more in India than in Pakistan?

Again.. it is not with religion and sectism that countries are run. They invest where they find that they can get sufficient return on investments in the form of tangible and intangible profits.

Our country is a huge market and that is what mainly attracts other countries. We have more than 500 million strong middle class people (from lower-middle to upper middle and growing) meaning that we've more people willing to avail new facilities, therefore giving way to more infrastructure, growth and development.

If for example EMAAR can get 4 times the profit of Pakistan by tying up with say TATA properties, then why will they opt for lesser profit? Business can have limited goodwill my friend; after that limit it becomes loan whether in cash or in kind.

 

[EgO Boy]

Pakistan has a veto as far as relations with india is concerned, Saudi has assured Pakistan that it has a special relationship with many facets that the one with india will never be able to compete with.

WAKE UP SID

 

[r3alist]

and denial is a river in Egypt.

Why do the Wahabi Saudi and other Gulf countries prefer to invest more in India than in Pakistan?

they are happy to be the partners of israel - what is india to them?

even iranians have pretty decent ties with india, strong economic ones, and once you have strong economic ties its hard to divest.

clearly when making india richer pakistan does not come into the equation

these economic ties will soon mean more than "islamic" or whatever other ties anyone may imagine, if not already

 

[ajay26]

Saudis need to diversify their economy, at the moment Saudi arabia has a unemployment rate of 11.6% even with all its oil wealth and in future things will get worse once oil starts to dry up. India can help Saudis with IT & Science/Space among other things and in return Saudis can invest in infrastructure projects to tap the boom in the Indian economy sounds like a win win deal for both.

 

[muse]

r3


The reality you point to is very rude our "islamican" types - to them "brotherhood" among Muslims is limited to expressions of hate towards those we have political problems - yes, you are exactly on the money, but also let me tell you something else, for the arbis, Pakistanis are a scary and untrustworthy lot the more "islamic" these pakistanis imagine themselves as , the more scarier they get to the arbi - Arbi thinks, apni billi... "humme Islam sikane gay ye Bakistani"

 

[somebozo]

and denial is a river in Egypt.

Why do the Wahabi Saudi and other Gulf countries prefer to invest more in India than in Pakistan?

So part of proceeds can be given to our bheek mangi government..seriously we are a joke when it comes to economy and business..we have bought this upon ourself by crashing the standards of education and giving rise to madrassas!!