Saudi Arabia’s Defense Minister Says Dialogue With Iran Is Impossible

[SubWater]

Keep french kissing your Jews brothers. Your Ayatollah french kisses kids hahahaha pedophile

all of those pic in that video was bullshit and nonsense like how MR khatami kissing his daughter or grand children kissing his grandpa .....

 

[Saif-ud-Din Qutuz]

all of those pic in that video was bullshit and nonsense like how MR khatami kissing his daughter or grand children kissing his grandpa .....

Everything against Shias and Supreme Leader is B.S! Cool argument. He is french kissing kids. It sucks as hell. Is he a pedophile or what? What about the men he was french kissing? You'll say its fake, correct?

 

[Malik Alashter]

Saudi prince is correct. Just like Iran, Jews are also planning for the return of antichrist. In their prophecy, its written that when he returns, Jews will have power over the whole world. Iran and Jews concepts are so much alike. Saudi prince is correct, the stance is valid.

Just like you sunn7s believe in Mahdi too.

 

[Saif-ud-Din Qutuz]

The solution is backing to root and pushing back Arab culture to Arabian peninsula.

Why only pushing back the Arab culture? Lets push back the Arab religion (Islam) as well? Then you'll be back to your roots.

 

[SubWater]

Everything against Shias and Supreme Leader is B.S! Cool argument. He is french kissing kids. It sucks as hell. Is he a pedophile or what? What about the men he was french kissing? You'll say its fake, correct?

yes, that's not true.
I am sorry for you. you reach from jews to french kissing.
you completely lost.

 

[Saif-ud-Din Qutuz]

Just like you sunn7s believe in Mahdi too.

Yes, we believe in Imam Mehdi but we don't say he is hiding in a cave from the past 1000 years. We don't say he ran away with the original Holly Quran.

yes, that's not true.
I am sorry for you. you reach from jews to french kissing.
you completely lost.

Listen, I'm not saying anything out of my a$$. I sent you the video. You've seen yourself that your supreme leader is doing what?? Its bad and I've objection there.

 

[Malik Alashter]

It all started with Iraq when its government was toppled for a shia government. From that point onward things haven't normalize. It'll continue until Iran doesn't stop its propagation of Shia-ism in the gulf. They got to stop it. If not, worst time to come ahead.

We already in the worst days what else going to happen

iraq for iraqis we are the one responsible for its affairs not any one else.

 

[Cthulhu]

Keep french kissing your Jews brothers. Your Ayatollah french kisses kids hahahaha pedophile


Have you ever considered french kissing kids like your supreme leader hahahahahahahahaha Pedophile

Oh we have a fvcking genius here, He found a video made of a series of photos taken of our supreme leader, ex-supreme leader and ex-presidents french kissing and making out with kids and guys in the public right in front of the cameras. Yeah, there's no way that those photos are fake, they called some photographers and told them: "Come and don't forget to bring your cameras. We want to make out with kids and guys in the public right in front of your cameras and we want you to take some close-ups and wide-shot pictures of us doing that, so we can show them to the whole world. This way some pure heart servant of God will make a video of those pictures so @Saif-ud-Din Qutuz can find it on the YouTube and post it in Pakistan defense forum and show the whole world the pedophiles and gays that we are, then he'll find out our master plan to bring the apocalypse all by himself and prevents it from happening by that video."

 

[SubWater]

But those 1000 Arabs before getting killed have killed hundreds of thousands of Shia protecting the real clown Bashar Ul Asad. His nose is so big like clowns. Allah made him look like a clown for what he is doing in Syria against Muslims.

Oh poor you
I am speaking about Arab woman and children
you are completely out of what I am speaking

 

[Deliorman]

How do Turks see Iran? Do you prefer Iran or KSA? or both...Whom you are close with?

It depends who you ask... You can probably get a million different answers to both questions. Some people like Saudi Arabia and hate Iran, others like Iran and hate Saudi Arabia. Some people hate both (because of their regimes or for historical reasons etc.) but most people are probably neutral and don't really take a side in their rivalry- after all it's their own business and not ours... I think that Turkey and it's leadership should be neutral towards both and should try to stay out of their sectarian mess. Turkey First and everything else should be Second.
I can say for myself that I am not a fan of both regimes but I have nothing against the regular Iranians or Arabs and their countries... I would like to visit both especially Iran.

ps If people were more educated and more opened to the World around them we all wouldn't have been in this whole mess we are at right now. I see some people here arguing with passion and hate against each other about a bunch of prophesies they heard from someone, about stuff they were made to believe by others, about stuff from history they can't change. At the end nobody wins from all that (except of those who control you with your hate and fear of the enemies). Shia, Sunni... who the hell cares.

 

[Falgrine]

Some people are bringing the historical/ideological arguments into the debate as if they themselves have been witnessing the events over the last 1400 years. Every sect has its books and claims them to be authentic. But if one would use common sense, it could become plainly obvious that religious texts cannot be fully trusted as most of the literature was written/compiled some 2 to 3 centuries after the death of the Prophet, including the seera books, hadith collection, fiqh etc. Hence one can never be absolutely sure about the actual history of early Islam, unless one retrojects his/her biases on to the history. We are not even certain in definite terms about the existence of the actual copies of Quran (verified by carbon dating etc.), supposedly compiled by the caliph Othman and sent all over the Muslim ruled lands.

My current belief is that both Sunni and Shia creeds evolved over the time. Also, it is very hard to look beyond the fog of history that obscures the early Islamic era. So guys open up to each other and do not be so arrogant as to be knowing it all. The intra-factionalism within Islam can hoped to be resolved only if both sides are willing to give respect to each other, and accept that the truth must lies somewhere in the middle.

 

[-SINAN-]

Osmanli ruled the Arabs and had good relations with Iran,maybe thats what he meant.

Osmanlı died long ago, it's still not our business.

How do Turks see Iran? Do you prefer Iran or KSA? or both...Whom you are close with?

I can only speak for myself and i would say collaboration with Iran. Saudis don't have much to offer us.

 

[raptor22]

Hmm...Iranians also made issue political when haj incident happened recently...asking for all Muslim control in administration...definitely their intent was not that but just to provoke/troll KSA...I assume Iranians must be well scrutinized by KSA before given visa

Two Iranian teenager were molested in Jadde airport ...
In crane accident 11 Iranian were martyred and 15 were injured ...
And in stampede tragedy 465 Iranian were martyred ...

Not only one single Saudi authority made apology for what happened to pilgrims and abdicated any responsibility, they started to accuse and blame first God will , then African pilgrims and finally Iranians ...
Then they distorted the real figure of death toll and have stuck to 700 death toll since then while Saudi ministry of health released this figure at first hours: 4173


Still you think we wanted to just to provoke/troll KSA?

According to Shiaism and their off shoots Mehdi is a mythical army general, who is hiding in Iran from 1000+ years. He will appear to war Saudis, Gulf nations, who are also referred by them as Khawarji (defined as a person who pretend to be a Muslim).
All Shias consider them self army of Mehdi and are preparing/training to take part in that war, which will be lead by Mehdi.
Imagine how many generations have they waited and prepared for this war!
Actually after occupying Iraq and Afghanistan, they started to believe that time has arrived for Mehdi's un-hiding. This is why these days they are on their toes.
P.S.-There exist a belief, that army of Mehdi would be admitted to paradise)
This is the background, which Saudi defence minister was referring to.
Obviously, believing that Iran regime and its followers would ever be willing to make peace with Saudi and Gulf nations, is like a mad man's dream.
All of this is a common knowledge, unless you are from Mars.

Source please ........if you have ...

I stick to what I've said. You're a shia muslim and you don't know what Quran says about Jews and Christians? All I said is they can't be our friends so no point of hugging and kissing them. However, you can as you love them.

Quran is clear on them , have you read Quran?

3:113 They are not [all] the same; among the People of the Scripture is a community standing [in obedience], reciting the verses of Allah during periods of the night and prostrating [in prayer].
3:114 They believe in Allah and the Last Day, and they enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong and hasten to good deeds. And those are among the righteous.
3:115 And whatever good they do - never will it be removed from them. And Allah is Knowing of the righteous.

2:62 Indeed, those who believed and those who were Jews or Christians or Sabeans [before Prophet Muhammad] - those [among them] who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness - will have their reward with their Lord, and no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve.

3:199 And indeed, among the People of the Scripture are those who believe in Allah and what was revealed to you and what was revealed to them, [being] humbly submissive to Allah . They do not exchange the verses of Allah for a small price. Those will have their reward with their Lord. Indeed, Allah is swift in account.
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[PaklovesTurkiye]

Two Iranian teenager were molested in Jadde airport ...
In crane accident 11 Iranian were martyred and 15 were injured ...
And in stampede tragedy 465 Iranian were martyred ...

Not only one single Saudi authority made apology for what happened to pilgrims and abdicated any responsibility, they started to accuse and blame first God will , then African pilgrims and finally Iranians ...
Then they distorted the real figure of death toll and have stuck to 700 death toll since then while Saudi ministry of health released this figure at first hours: 4173
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Still you think we wanted to just to provoke/troll KSA?

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I get it but you can't discount the rivalry b/w both countries...Not only Iranian pilgrims were killed, other countries' nationals as well but they didn't seize the opportunity to mock KSA unlike Iran..

 

[Saif-ud-Din Qutuz]

Quran is clear on them , have you read Quran?

Stop being a big mouth dude. I've read Quran Alhumdolilha.

2:62 Indeed, those who believed and those who were Jews or Christians or Sabeans [before Prophet Muhammad]

You validated my point. Quran says before Prophet Muhammad. Quran isn't referring to the modern day Jews in that verse you quoted. My point is correct.

Two Iranian teenager were molested in Jadde airport ...
In crane accident 11 Iranian were martyred and 15 were injured ...
And in stampede tragedy 465 Iranian were martyred ...

Not only one single Saudi authority made apology for what happened to pilgrims and abdicated any responsibility, they started to accuse and blame first God will , then African pilgrims and finally Iranians ...
Then they distorted the real figure of death toll and have stuck to 700 death toll since then while Saudi ministry of health released this figure at first hours: 4173
Still you think we wanted to just to provoke/troll KSA?

Yes, I agree to that. Many people were martyred during that incident. However, what was the reaction of Iran and your supreme leader? They started a campaign against Saudi Arabia as if they wanted to liberate holly Kabah from their possession. This is what Iran's intention has been over the years. I'm against that approach. Iranians did try to attack Holly Kabah. Which other country had tried the same?