Saudi Arabian Tornado shot down in Yemen

[BATMAN]

So basically you will not accept reality then.

I told you, i need more than statement of Iranian proxy, don't care even if that statement is carried forward by al-jazeera or Washington post or gold smith.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

While, Iranian proxies originating from Pakistan,

What are you talking about? Iranian proxies recruited from Pakistan number in the hundreds to a maybe over a thousand, max. You’re making it sound like Pakistan is the main source of proxy recruitment for Iran, which as a Pakistani is a claim you should be ashamed of.

Second, the Saudis chose to invade Yemen - did the Houthis attack Saudi Arabia prior to the Saudi military attacks against the Houthis?

 

[Philosopher]

I told you, i need more than statement of Iranian proxy, don't care even if that statement is carried forward by al-jazeera or Washington post or gold smith.

This is like expecting a murderer to admit to their crimes. Hint: Don't hold your breath for it to happen.

 

[El Sidd]

I told you, i need more than statement of Iranian proxy, don't care even if that statement is carried forward by al-jazeera or Washington post or gold smith.

I tried helping you. My posts were deleted.

Goodluck in your efforts

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

I tried helping you. My posts were deleted.

Goodluck in your efforts

You didn’t help. You just offered an opinion on Pakistani views about the Saudi Arabian regime.

If you want to ‘help’ Batman, then ‘help’ explain why the sources he has been given about Saudi strikes killing Yemeni civilians shouldn’t be accepted as credible.

 

[BATMAN]

This is like expecting a murderer to admit to their crimes. Hint: Don't hold your breath for it to happen.

I asked for statement for official Yemeni statement and if in your opinion they are murderers than don't blame me!

 

[El Sidd]

You didn’t help. You just offered an opinion on Pakistani views about the Saudi Arabian regime.

If you want to ‘help’ Batman than ‘help’ explain why the sources he has been given about Saudi strikes killing Yemeni civilians shouldn’t be accepted as credible.

Militants use human shields in Yemen thus the civilian cost.

Can you now tell me why Saudi territorial integrity is of little interest to Iran and Pakistani government?

 

[Philosopher]

I asked for statement for official Yemeni statement and if in your opinion they are murderers than don't blame me!

That analogy obviously went over your head.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Militants use human shields in Yemen thus the civilian cost.

That’s a reasonable and rational counterargument to the allegations of Saudis killing civilians. One would have to compare the collateral damage inflicted by the US (for example) in Afghanistan against that inflicted by the Saudis in Yemen to see how compares.

Can you now tell me why Saudi territorial integrity is of little interest to Iran and Pakistani government?

How was Saudi territorial integrity threatened by the Houthis prior to the Saudis attacking the Houthis?

 

[El Sidd]

How was Saudi territorial integrity threatened by the Houthis prior to the Saudis attacking the Houthis?

Through smuggling and providing Al Qaeda a mountainous terrain to topple Saudi government.

Yemen was always economically dependent on the Saudis. More Yemenis work in Saudi Arabia then they do in Yemen.

One would have to compare the collateral damage inflicted by the US (for example) in Afghanistan against that inflicted by the Saudis in Yemen to see how compares.

US does not share a border with Afghanistan. Why don't you compare Iranian expenditure in Afghanistan and then compare who has been merciful and showed restrain.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Through smuggling and providing Al Qaeda a mountainous terrain to topple Saudi government.

Yemen was always economically dependent on the Saudis. More Yemenis work in Saudi Arabia then they do in Yemen.

Smuggling isn’t justification for launching an all out war in a neighboring country. The Saudis should have used their hundreds of billions of oil revenue to improve their border security and fencing instead, invested in more air assets, drones, choppers, reconnaissance aircraft etc.

US does not share a border with Afghanistan. Why don't you compare Iranian expenditure in Afghanistan and then compare who has been merciful and showed restrain.

Is Iran in an overt military conflict in Afghanistan currently? The better comparison is with the US invasion of Afghanistan or Iraq.

 

[El Sidd]

Smuggling isn’t justification for launching an all out war in a neighboring country. The Saudis should have used their hundreds of billions of oil revenue to improve their border security and fencing instead, invested in more air assets, drones, choppers, reconnaissance aircraft etc.

You choose to ignore Al Qaeda conveniently. And yes smuggling is an excuse good enough to wage war.

Is Iran in an overt military conflict in Afghanistan currently? The better comparison is with the US invasion of Afghanistan or

Iran is overtly and covertly involved in Afghanistan as any of the Afghanistans neighbours.

Iran is involved in Afghanistan long before 1979 happened.

US sought Iran help to form both Iraqi and Afghanistan government and US has never found Iran's answer in negative in collaboration plans for the region.

Iran also spends heavily in Pakistan to isolate it from the Arab world citing religious and ethnic blackmail

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

You choose to ignore Al Qaeda conveniently. And yes smuggling is an excuse good enough to wage war.

First, the Saudi invasion of Yemen has played a part in AQ strengthening its position in Yemen.

Second, I didn’t ignore AQ - the same measures apply to preventing cross border terrorist attacks as do to smuggling. Pakistan has invested in fencing, greater patrols and check posts to prevent cross border attacks and we’ve been arguing that the US/Afghans do the same on their side instead of complaining about cross-border terrorism from Pakistan.

The Saudis should have done exactly what Pakistan’s position was in response to allegations (from the US & Afghans) of cross-border terrorism.

Iran is overtly and covertly involved in Afghanistan as any of the Afghanistans neighbours.

Iran is involved in Afghanistan long before 1979 happened.

Iran is not carrying out air strikes, that I know of, in Afghanistan nor has it deployed troops on the ground in Afghanistan, unlike the Saudis in Yemen.

The comparison of the Saudi invasion of Yemen can only be made to the US invasion of Afghanistan/Iraq.

 

[El Sidd]

First, the Saudi invasion of Yemen has played a part in AQ strengthening its position in Yemen.

Second, I didn’t ignore AQ - the same measures apply to preventing cross border terrorist attacks as do to smuggling. Pakistan has invested in fencing, greater patrols and check posts to prevent cross border attacks and we’ve been arguing that the US/Afghans do the same on their side instead of complaining about cross-border terrorism from Pakistan.

The Saudis should have done exactly what Pakistan’s position was in response to allegations (from the US & Afghans) of cross-border terrorism.

Saudis entered into Yemen battle after Al Qaeda had shifted systematically from Iran to Yemen.

Saudis are in a better position of judging their actions. I don't think they need dictating.

US aggression in Afghanistan is not being discussed here.

Iran is not carrying out air strikes, that I know of, in Afghanistan nor has it deployed troops on the ground in Afghanistan, unlike the Saudis in Yemen.

The comparison of the Saudi invasion of Yemen can only be made to the US invasion of Afghanistan/Iraq.

You cannot do that actually given the legit government of Yemen had requested Saudi help at the time.

Iraq was invaded with Iranian help by America and so was Afghanistan. So you can use Iran and America as relatable political entities with the same strategic goals in the region.

 

[Zane_K]

you shall be equally surprise to see the advantages of drug which houthi chew.
without any basic training, they are experts in using SAMs, which of course their own scientists produce in caves.

I thank God, we only had low tech. TTP to fight with, God forbid, if they were similarly advance, today the PM of Pakistan would be Kulbhoshan Yadev.

brother I think you’re chewing khat....you’re messing up your spelling & grammar.

( sorry I couldn’t resist)