Saudi Arabia vs Isreal

[The Accountant]

You're really going to put "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" here and wave it around like a fact? What's next - "Mein Kamf"? The day Israel will act like a Jihadist country on innocents, and not the "genocide on the Palestinians" that only idiots can truly tell themselves to make themselves feel good about their actions, then you can criticize us.

and what you are putting ? some biased articles by some jews themselves ... Ok leave Protocols just answere me how did jews reached from Sinai to Jericho and Jerusalem? And who was involved attempted murder of Jesus AS ? by no historian but by your own old testament

 

[Myth_buster_1]

The Armenian card? Yawn. Ottomans were not issuing fatwas to rape Armenian women and massacre Armenians. Any regular soldier who did break the law was punished.

Massive difference between death as a result of deportation of civilians outside of war zones and death between getting outright raped and massacred. Something the Armenian and Pakistani army did which the Ottoman army did not. Nice try anyway.

The original topic was who has caused Muslims the most damage and suffering, Pakistan is well up there.

If you want to talk about who caused the most damage to Christians then yes you can lists Turks up there, probably first, second or third.

No need to get your knickers in a twist soon as the truth is told, no country is innocent of course, however majority of Muslims outside of Pakistanis would also list Pakistan as having caused Muslims to suffer (regionally more so)

This is not 1971 idiot. Stick with topic.. even if pak army committed rape in 71 it is not 71 anymore.. indian army is raping kashmiri women today so do include then in ur list

 

[Ilay]

and what you are putting ? some biased articles by some jews themselves ... Ok leave Protocols just answere me how did jews reached from Sinai to Jericho and Jerusalem? And who was involved attempted murder of Jesus AS ? by no historian but by your own old testament

From Sinai to Jericho and Jerusalem? I assume you mean the ancient time from around 3000BC or so. We weren't call Jews back then we were call Hebrews/Israelites/Bnei Israel(Sons of Israel) when we left slavery from Egypt(according to the old testament not me) we got to Canaan and were ordered to cleanse the land from it's inhabitants by God and we slaughtered the citizens of Jericho (if you want to know my opinion then know it not that I or any other Jew of which I know take that as a good thing, it was bad, no need to remain us of that), David bought the mountains of Jerusalem from it's owners and established the city there thinking it would hold there better against a siege. About Jesus I have no clue - never delved much into the story - all I know is that Jesus was crucified by the Romans according to the main steam: He was betrayed by Judas but the discovered Dead Sea's scrolls reveal that Jesus asked Judas to do so and this version was banned and remained hidden for centuries by the Vatican. So there you go.

 

[DjSnake]

all "semitic" people are cancerous to mankind, regardless if they're saudi, zionists etc.

 

[The Accountant]

From Sinai to Jericho and Jerusalem? I assume you mean the ancient time from around 3000BC or so. We weren't call Jews back then we were call Hebrews/Israelites/Bnei Israel(Sons of Israel) when we left slavery from Egypt(according to the old testament not me) we got to Canaan and were ordered to cleanse the land from it's inhabitants by God and we slaughtered the citizens of Jericho (if you want to know my opinion then know it not that I or any other Jew of which I know take that as a good thing, it was bad, no need to remain us of that), David bought the mountains of Jerusalem from it's owners and established the city there thinking it would hold there better against a siege. About Jesus I have no clue - never delved much into the story - all I know is that Jesus was crucified by the Romans according to the main steam: He was betrayed by Judas but the discovered Dead Sea's scrolls reveal that Jesus asked Judas to do so and this version was banned and remained hidden for centuries by the Vatican. So there you go.

So you accept that Allah (I hope you understand we worship same God and the difference is only in the prophet) ordered Moses (AS) to implement his system in the world but that implementation was to remove tyrany ,,, this is similar to the fact that removing Hitler was necessary, now if after 1000s year history will be changed as massacre of Germans than will it be right ?

Ok let me tell you how Muhammad SAW and his companion captured Macca, Madina and Jerusalem the three most sacred place on the earth as per well-established facts :

People of Madina invited Muhammad (SAW) by themselves purely based on his excellent teachings ...
At the time of Makkah, there was no actual battle, except few individual skirmish, People of makkah were given following offers:
1) go at your home and close the doors do not fight and we will not touch you.
2) take your belongings with you, there will be no looting in the goods of those who do not fight.

At the time of Jerusalem, it was put at sige as a result of which Christians, surrendered without any fierce battle ...

If you study neutral historical books, then you will find rules of war by muslims were:

1) no harm to women childeren and old people,
2) no harm to private property
3) Before start of war every army was given choice either to accept Islam or to keep their religion but then pay Jizya (a form of tax) and Islamic forces will take responsibility of protection of the area from outsiders.
4) Not a single person will be forcefully converted to the Islam ...

So in such rule of engagement how can you say that Islam implemented by the way of sword, wars for territorial gain were common in that time, and they were against kingdoms not against common people ...

Where do you fine in today's world main stream muslilms supporting terrorists like ISIS or Al-Qaeda, infact muslims are the most greatest sufferer from these organizations, so how can you say that muslims are terrorist, the way I see it, these are criminals, which are using religion to gain their objectives ...

Bottomline is you need to undertand Islam, basic teaching of Islam, call murder as one of the biggest crime to mankind ...

There 2 reasons of terrorim:

1) terrorists are mostly criminals with own hidden agenda
2) the proxy-wars going in Muslim countries since last 4 decades as a result of which brain washing muslims is easy, for example Aghan war was actualy the war of soviet union vs USA, hundreds of thousands of afghan died, so tell me what a father will do when he saw his son died, will hw not take revenge? and in such revenge he will do alot of incorrect things,

Now just consider the number of wars in the region
Gulf war
Iran iraq war
arab israel wars
yemen war
syrria war
afghan war

millions of people died and more will if you dont provide justice ... most of these wars are proxy wars in which price were paid by innocent and current extremisim is by product on instability created in this part of the world mainly by USA and the own tyrant muslims kings ...

 

[Muhammed45]

Spare me the bullshit Persian crocodile tears. That is if they have crocodiles.

We have seen their savage behaviour with Pakistan, and howmthey suck up to India, constantly ignoring kashmiri plight.

The most notorious and deceivers of regime is current led by kahomeni faker.

I would take bedouins over cunning mullah any day.

You obsessed creature! How dare you to talk about our relations with India?

What is the point of it?
You are hugging Indians and then insult Iranians because of what?
You are free to hug bedouins any time you wish, spare me from your own hypocrisy

 

[salarsikander]

You obsessed creature! How dare you to talk about our relations with India?

What is the point of it?
You are hugging Indians and then insult Iranians because of what?
You are free to hug bedouins any time you wish, spare me from your own hypocrisy

If by posting pics of deposed prime minister you say we are hugging. Then you as Persians have crossed all limits of stupidity (as expected from you)

Sucking up to Indians, ignoring Kashmir, stepping up attacks to disrupt Baluchistan out of jealousy of gawadar. Dumb isolated leadership is leading nation of lions. Now go worship mad mullah

 

[Muhammed45]

If by posting pics of deposed prime minister you say we are hugging. Then you as Persians have crossed all limits of stupidity (as expected from you)

Sucking up to Indians, ignoring Kashmir, stepping up attacks to disrupt Baluchistan out of jealousy of gawadar. Dumb isolated leadership is leading nation of lions. Now go worship mad mullah

Come out of your racism kid!
You are not arguing with a Persian.
Obviously you obsessed liar hypocrite are looking for an excuse only to insult and keep on being ignorant like a crying baby.
Gwadar, Yadhav, Baloch and others, just excuses. Stick to your Saudi lords, you worship them like a blind horse only to say that i hate Persians and Indians. Guess what, i have no problem with wise Arabs, and i can call many of them as my brothers.
Take a look at these

The least, if you stand as a Muslim not a politician, i can change the way of talking to you.

 

[Arefin007]

stop with the sectarianism its causes fethnah and dont let the enemies manipulate you

 

[Serpentine]

Iran of course. All terror and wars u see now in Middle East is Iran.

Islamic terrorism was started by Khomeni ideology not but Wahabi.

Sometimes I doubt whether you are actually a bot or at best case scenario, a paid hasbara. The amount of time you spend to spread bs against Iran is astounding, people actually get paid for that, especially in Israel which has an infamous army of trolls paid by its gov.

To debunk the hasbara's lies about original founders of terrorism, here's just one example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

The King David Hotel bombing was a terrorist attack carried out on Monday, July 22, 1946, by the militant right-wing Zionist underground organization, the Irgun, on the British administrative headquarters for Palestine, which was housed in the southern wing[10] of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem. 91 people of various nationalities were killed and 46 injured.



@500

Your fake country that is founded on stolen land was a terrorist state even before its official establishment in 1948.

 

[500]

Sometimes I doubt whether you are actually a bot or at best case scenario, a paid hasbara. The amount of time you spend to spread bs against Iran is astounding, people actually get paid for that, especially in Israel which has an infamous army of trolls paid by its gov.

To debunk the hasbara's lies about original founders of terrorism, here's just one example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

The King David Hotel bombing was a terrorist attack carried out on Monday, July 22, 1946, by the militant right-wing Zionist underground organization, the Irgun, on the British administrative headquarters for Palestine, which was housed in the southern wing[10] of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem. 91 people of various nationalities were killed and 46 injured.



@500

Your fake country that is founded on stolen land was a terrorist state even before its official establishment in 1948.

1) I never claimed there were no terror attacks prior 1979. I said there were no Islamic terror attacks.
2) King David Hotel bombing was not a terrorist attack, since it served as military headquarters and not as hotel during the attack. But there were other terror attacks I never denied (see #1).
3) Instead to complain, you could post a single example of "Wahabi" terror attack prior 1979. You could not.
4) When it comes to Sunni terrorism, leaders there are your Muslim Brotherhood friends and not the Wahabis.

Wahabis is merely an ideology against the idolatry in Islam. Like North Korean style worshiping Khomeini and Khameni in Iran.

 

[Serpentine]

1) I never claimed there were no terror attacks prior 1979. I said there were no Islamic terror attacks.
2) King David Hotel bombing was not a terrorist attack, since it served as military headquarters and not as hotel during the attack. But there were other terror attacks I never denied (see #1).
3) Instead to complain, you could post a single example of "Wahabi" terror attack prior 1979. You could not.
4) When it comes to Sunni terrorism, leaders there are your Muslim Brotherhood friends and not the Wahabis.

Wahabis is merely an ideology against the idolatry in Islam. Like North Korean style worshiping Khomeini and Khameni in Iran.

I just showed you that your country was a terrorist state even before its official establishment, but let's ignore that for now.


Ok, you want an example of a Wahhabi terrorist attack before 1979 revolution?

I bring you an example from not 5 or 10 or 20 years before 1979, but actually 177 years before that when Wahhabis attacked a Shia city and kill its inhabitants solely for being Shia and destroyed its main religious site. They even beat Zionists in the history of terrorism, but the two are identical nonetheless.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabi_sack_of_Karbala

The Wahhabi sack of Karbala occurred on 21 April 1802 (1216 Hijri), under the rule of Abdul-Aziz bin Muhammad the second ruler of the First Saudi State. Approximately 12,000 Wahhabis from Najd attacked the city of Karbala. The attack coincided with the anniversary of Ghadir Khum event or 10th Muharram.

Wahhabis killed 2,000–5,000 of the inhabitants and plundered the tomb of Husayn ibn Ali, grandson of Muhammad and son of Ali ibn Abi Talib and destroyed its dome, seizing a large quantity of spoils, including gold, Persian carpets, money, pearls, and guns that had accumulated in the tomb, most of them donations. The attack lasted for eight hours, after which the Wahhabis left the city with more than 4,000 camels carrying their plunder.

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Ironically they did exactly what ISIS has been threatening to do in Shia cities (and has failed), but the grandfathers of ISIS managed to do so once.

Wahabis is merely an ideology against the idolatry in Islam. Like North Korean style worshiping Khomeini and Khameni in Iran.

We know we are indeed on the right side of history when a Zionist stands to defend Wahabism, the founding ideology of ISIS, AQ, Taliban etc. They are indeed 2 sides of the same coins, both cancers to humanity.

 

[Fenasi Kerim]

This is not 1971 idiot. Stick with topic.. even if pak army committed rape in 71 it is not 71 anymore.. indian army is raping kashmiri women today so do include then in ur list

Read the description and what I said first you prick, you really have no comprehension skills.

India is not a Muslim country last time I checked.

I said if you exclude 71 even then Pakistan is still on the list for its support and collaboration with many terrorists groups be it voluntary or out of nessecity, which has mainly caused its own people's death (Muslims in Pakistan and Afghanistan) and is partly due to your arses being tied to Saudi Arabia and all the Wahhab funded mosques. You could say Pakistan is innocent in that sense however it is a fact they have worked with some evil people.

Plus why should we exclude 71, Pakistan was a state well before that. And are Bengalis not Muslim? Or is it because they were massacred by Pakistan that we should exclude them. Stop living in denial.

 

[SOHEIL]

1) I never claimed there were no terror attacks prior 1979. I said there were no Islamic terror attacks.
2) King David Hotel bombing was not a terrorist attack, since it served as military headquarters and not as hotel during the attack. But there were other terror attacks I never denied (see #1).
3) Instead to complain, you could post a single example of "Wahabi" terror attack prior 1979. You could not.
4) When it comes to Sunni terrorism, leaders there are your Muslim Brotherhood friends and not the Wahabis.

Wahabis is merely an ideology against the idolatry in Islam. Like North Korean style worshiping Khomeini and Khameni in Iran.

Anybody Who is familiar with your brilliant analysis about drones and their sizes will give an amusing fart !!!

& we have a level up here ... From a Zionist to a Zionist Wahhabi !

Abu-five hundred !

 

[500]

I just showed you that your country was a terrorist state even before its official establishment, but let's ignore that for now.


Ok, you want an example of a Wahhabi terrorist attack before 1979 revolution?

I bring you an example from not 5 or 10 or 20 years before 1979, but actually 177 years before that when Wahhabis attacked a Shia city and kill its inhabitants solely for being Shia and destroyed its main religious site. They even beat Zionists in the history of terrorism, but the two are identical nonetheless.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabi_sack_of_Karbala

The Wahhabi sack of Karbala occurred on 21 April 1802 (1216 Hijri), under the rule of Abdul-Aziz bin Muhammad the second ruler of the First Saudi State. Approximately 12,000 Wahhabis from Najd attacked the city of Karbala. The attack coincided with the anniversary of Ghadir Khum event or 10th Muharram.

Wahhabis killed 2,000–5,000 of the inhabitants and plundered the tomb of Husayn ibn Ali, grandson of Muhammad and son of Ali ibn Abi Talib and destroyed its dome, seizing a large quantity of spoils, including gold, Persian carpets, money, pearls, and guns that had accumulated in the tomb, most of them donations. The attack lasted for eight hours, after which the Wahhabis left the city with more than 4,000 camels carrying their plunder.

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Ironically they did exactly what ISIS has been threatening to do in Shia cities (and has failed), but the grandfathers of ISIS managed to do so once.





We know we are indeed on the right side of history when a Zionist stands to defend Wahabism, the founding ideology of ISIS, AQ, Taliban etc. They are indeed 2 sides of the same coins, both cancers to humanity.

Already answered here:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/saudi-arabia-vs-isreal.513730/page-2#post-9797744