Saudi Arabia vs Isreal

[The Accountant]

An other genius
Elaborate the including Iran

Yemen and Syria

lol what are you on about, I clearly only commented about Saladin not Genghis, the link merely mentioned them both. The comment about 1400 years ago was unrelated to this comment or I would have mentioned them both together and I was only posting a quick example of islamic terrorism regarding saladin. Also What the hell does moses have to do with this discussion lmao and why are you deflecting. Everyone knows Saladin spread Islam by the sword. Lmao you cant even deny Islamic terrorism in its early history. The fact you couldnt even defend saladin or argue any of my points and had to change to the tactic of being deflective shows the low level of comprehension and knowledge you possess. Try harder next time

I know hisotry myself tell me the persons killed by Saladin were they local people or were they Europeon ? What European were doing in Jerusalem ? Ohhh so here comes the crusades, when all the Europeon, Frenchs and british unites to kill the muslims, if you check neutral historians then when Crusaders raded Jerusalem then the whole city was burned whereas Saladin came to rescus the local people ...

Read history muslims won jerusalem as a result of agreement between muslims and christians and not by killing of common citizens of the land on the contrary during crusades , crusaders did mass murder of the common people ...

Saladin was fighting with crusaders and was not invader but defender of the local people ... I know you feel terror from him as they European that justice always prevails ...

 

[Fenasi Kerim]

lolzzz ,, you were talking about 1400 years and when asked detail then you posted story about Gengis and Saladin ... Gengis was not even muslim whereas do you know in which year Saladin came ?
Do you want me to post history book claiming Moses (AS) to be fake ? I will not as I respect him and claim him prophet of Allah more than you ... but if you consider this as terrorism then can you please from your old testament tell me how Jews reached Jerusalem in first place ? they were living in Sinai desert ... remember ? just tell me



Mukti Bani was civilian terrorist organization ... I think you need to check the recent statement of Modi who accepted that they trained Mukti Bani for terrorism in Bangladesh and fighting with force ... Unlike propaganda of India ,,, it was armed fight between Mukti Bani and Pakistan forces so how could you consider at massacre of the civilian?

Don't change subject, I'm not talking about militia, you raped and pillaged innocent Muslims then surrendered to the cow worshippers lol

You really no argument here, you can call the rape and murder of 1000s of Muslims as "terrorists" whatever you like, your up there on the list.

 

[The Accountant]

Don't change subject, I'm not talking about militia, you raped and pillaged innocent Muslims then surrendered to the cow worshippers lol

You really no argument here, you can call the rape and murder of 1000s of Muslims as "terrorists" whatever you like, your up there on the list.

thats indian propoganda ... not the reality ...

Anyways you are entitled to your opinion ...

 

[500]

I'm assuming you're talking about the Battle of Krtsanisi.

No, I am talking about what happened after that battle. There was slaughter. But again, thats quite typical behavior of medieval armies.

I am talking about modern terror attacks. Like Hamas bombs, ISIS etc. Islamic groups did not do such things prior 1979. You were also first who introduced suicide terror attacks.

 

[Dinky]

Yemen and Syria

I know hisotry myself tell me the persons killed by Saladin were they local people or were they Europeon ? What European were doing in Jerusalem ? Ohhh so here comes the crusades, when all the Europeon, Frenchs and british unites to kill the muslims, if you check neutral historians then when Crusaders raded Jerusalem then the whole city was burned whereas Saladin came to rescus the local people ...

Read history muslims won jerusalem as a result of agreement between muslims and christians and not by killing of common citizens of the land on the contrary during crusades , crusaders did mass murder of the common people ...

Saladin was fighting with crusaders and was not invader but defender of the local people ... I know you feel terror from him as they European that justice always prevails ...

You do know saladin didnt just fight the Christians but also fought other muslims when he attacked Mosul. Also my comment about Islam being spread by the sword still stands, the conquests of Afghanistan Is just one example. You also completely ignored the other 2 links I posted recently which talk about Islamic terrorism in its earliest days. You seem to know barely any history about even your own religion, I dont know where your simple minded or just this stupid.

here is the links in case you missed it.

Islam’s First Terrorists
http://www.historytoday.com/clive-foss/islam’s-first-terrorists

The Story of the First Terrorist Massacre in Islam
http://www.islamagainstextremism.co...-of-the-first-terrorist-massacre-in-islam.cfm

 

[Falcon29]

You know the situation is messed up when we're attempting to measure who has caused more harm to the region. These countries have not affected the whole Muslim world. So no need to make this about the Muslim world. You should have asked who can be seen an as example for the people from a moral perspective. And that is none. And until you ordinary people accept that, immorality and selfishness will continue to plague the region. You guys don't wish the same to others that you wish for yourselves. And that is an enormous problem.

Israel is ahead of those in civil rights and governing system. It is not something I'd look up to for moral guidance.

 

[Dinky]

well Israel terrorism you could say is contained, while saudi/wahabism terrorism is global

 

[Fafnir]

well Israel terrorism you could say is contained, while saudi/wahabism terrorism is global

Agreed,zionist terror is for the most part directed at the palestinians to further the occupation/colonization of palestine,whereas wahabist terror not only threatens the region but the wider islamic world as well and even beyond as we have seen with the attacks in the west,tho to be perfectly honest I dont really shed any tears,crocodile or otherwise,when I hear about these.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Typical Pakistani mentality, always blame India and Israel. Doesn't work in this instance because I was referring to the civilians Pakistan massacred and raped in Bangladesh.

The rest of it the fact Pakistan is a hot bed for domestic and regional terrorism. Where mainly Pakistanis and Afghans have died.

I am not gonna say Pakistan is perfect, but the reason why i did not include Pakistan in the list is because pakistani terrorism is pretty much limited in Pakistan not the Muslim world.
and you should not be talking about massacres because I do not need to remind you of Turkish genocide of Armenia.

 

[Fenasi Kerim]

I am not gonna say Pakistan is perfect, but the reason why i did not include Pakistan in the list is because pakistani terrorism is pretty much limited in Pakistan not the Muslim world.
and you should not be talking about massacres because I do not need to remind you of Turkish genocide of Armenia.

The Armenian card? Yawn. Ottomans were not issuing fatwas to rape Armenian women and massacre Armenians. Any regular soldier who did break the law was punished.

Massive difference between death as a result of deportation of civilians outside of war zones and death between getting outright raped and massacred. Something the Armenian and Pakistani army did which the Ottoman army did not. Nice try anyway.

The original topic was who has caused Muslims the most damage and suffering, Pakistan is well up there.

If you want to talk about who caused the most damage to Christians then yes you can lists Turks up there, probably first, second or third.

No need to get your knickers in a twist soon as the truth is told, no country is innocent of course, however majority of Muslims outside of Pakistanis would also list Pakistan as having caused Muslims to suffer (regionally more so)

 

[The Accountant]

The Armenian card? Yawn. Ottomans were not issuing fatwas to rape Armenian women and massacre Armenians. Any regular soldier who did break the law was punished.

Massive difference between death as a result of deportation of civilians outside of war zones and death between getting outright raped and massacred. Something the Armenian and Pakistani army did which the Ottoman army did not. Nice try anyway.

The original topic was who has caused Muslims the most damage and suffering, Pakistan is well up there.

If you want to talk about who caused the most damage to Christians then yes you can lists Turks up there, probably first, second or third.

No need to get your knickers in a twist soon as the truth is told, no country is innocent of course, however majority of Muslims outside of Pakistanis would also list Pakistan as having caused Muslims to suffer (regionally more so)

You are the only one placing Pakistan here ... where are you getting this of having fatwas to rape bangali woman ? You are drunk or what ... dont make fake claims ... have you ever meet any bangali to claim tbe same ? There are lot of bengalis here nobidy make such claims ... apparently you are some false flagger ... there might be issues but organized rape and mass murder was never there ...

You do know saladin didnt just fight the Christians but also fought other muslims when he attacked Mosul. Also my comment about Islam being spread by the sword still stands, the conquests of Afghanistan Is just one example. You also completely ignored the other 2 links I posted recently which talk about Islamic terrorism in its earliest days. You seem to know barely any history about even your own religion, I dont know where your simple minded or just this stupid.

here is the links in case you missed it.

Islam’s First Terrorists
http://www.historytoday.com/clive-foss/islam’s-first-terrorists

The Story of the First Terrorist Massacre in Islam
http://www.islamagainstextremism.co...-of-the-first-terrorist-massacre-in-islam.cfm

I can give you alot of neutral historical articles on jewish terrorisim ... including murder attempt of Jesus (AS) and many of the other prophets of God but i would like to give the worst jewisj terrorisim plan leaked and each and very word of which is now can be seen ...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion ...

Furthermore you are quoting biassed historical analysis ... from point of view of rivals muslims will always be bad ... you tell me how did your religion spread as per your religious book ? How did you capture Jericho and jerusalem ? What does your own old testament has to tell you about that ...

You can always refer to rule of engagement of early muslim fighters ... there were clear rule of engagements ...

1. Not to destroy houses.
2. Not to attack and burn farms and cattles.
3. Not to attack woman, child, weak and old.
4. If a person surrender do not punish him.

It was the attitude of muslims as a result even after 1400 years the areas captured are totally converted as muslkms but on the contrary jews do not exist on the face of the earth except for few ...

 

[Ilay]

You are the only one placing Pakistan here ... where are you getting this of having fatwas to rape bangali woman ? You are drunk or what ... dont make fake claims ... have you ever meet any bangali to claim tbe same ? There are lot of bengalis here nobidy make such claims ... apparently you are some false flagger ... there might be issues but organized rape and mass murder was never there ...


I can give you alot of neutral historical articles on jewish terrorisim ... including murder attempt of Jesus (AS) and many of the other prophets of God but i would like to give the worst jewisj terrorisim plan leaked and each and very word of which is now can be seen ...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion ...

Furthermore you are quoting biassed historical analysis ... from point of view of rivals muslims will always be bad ... you tell me how did your religion spread as per your religious book ? How did you capture Jericho and jerusalem ? What does your own old testament has to tell you about that ...

You can always refer to rule of engagement of early muslim fighters ... there were clear rule of engagements ...

1. Not to destroy houses.
2. Not to attack and burn farms and cattles.
3. Not to attack woman, child, weak and old.
4. If a person surrender do not punish him.

It was the attitude of muslims as a result even after 1400 years the areas captured are totally converted as muslkms but on the contrary jews do not exist on the face of the earth except for few ...

You're really going to put "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" here and wave it around like a fact? What's next - "Mein Kamf"? The day Israel will act like a Jihadist country on innocents, and not the "genocide on the Palestinians" that only idiots can truly tell themselves to make themselves feel good about their actions, then you can criticize us.

 

[SALMAN F]

Show me example of Islamic terrorism prior 1979 when Khomeini coup happened in Iran.

The Wahhabi terrorism the muslim brotherhood and the Zionist terrorists organizations

 

[salarsikander]

You know brother, there is a similarity between the wars that are going on in both Syria-Iraq-Yemen and Palestine sides.
In both sides you can see a war between humans and savages.
Saudis and Zionists are massacring Muslims to prove their loyalty to Americans and receive more cash and equipment.
Saudis are naming Hamas and Islamic Jihad of Palestine as terror groups and in Yemen, Israel bombs Yemeni people. The irony there is no difference between Shia and Sunni on both sides and they are all being massacred by the savages.

Allah is watching us, so don't worry it will have an end eventually

The most annoying thing is some of Muslim users in this website that shout on us " Iranians are supporting terrorism and cause chaos and terror in Muslim world." As if we have created ISIS ideology, Al-Qaeda, Taliban and other terror groups in Muslim countries. As if we attacked Saddam, massacred Syrians and Iraqis by the ISIS mercenaries. As if we conducted 9/11 and helped Americans to provide an excuse.

Just ask @salarsikander He can tell you about evil Shais of Iran.

Spare me the bullshit Persian crocodile tears. That is if they have crocodiles.

We have seen their savage behaviour with Pakistan, and howmthey suck up to India, constantly ignoring kashmiri plight.

The most notorious and deceivers of regime is current led by kahomeni faker.

I would take bedouins over cunning mullah any day.

 

[Anaoshak]

No, I am talking about what happened after that battle. There was slaughter. But again, thats quite typical behavior of medieval armies.

I am talking about modern terror attacks. Like Hamas bombs, ISIS etc. Islamic groups did not do such things prior 1979. You were also first who introduced suicide terror attacks.

A battle between 3 states that doesn't exist anymore and isn't relevant. And hasn't got anything to do with Islamic Terrorism.
Now, let me school you a little bit. First of all, you keep saying medieval...I wasn't sure if that was a mistype the first time or if you were serious. But it shows to tell that you don't know much about history. Medieval is between the 5th to the 15th century. So stop bringing that up just to try and skew things into your benefit. Alright, you got owned like usual. You wanted an example of Islamic terrorism against civilians and I showed you one. There were no Armies fighting, Just a religious nut case extremist group who attacked a city directly and slaughtered the inhabitants, enslaved and robbed...destroyed sites, solely based on religion. That is not common AT all to happen in the 1800s.

ISIS did EXACTLY what the Saudis did in 1802. Plain and simple, it doesn't have to be a bomb for it to be a terrorist attack, as people have mentioned to you when they laugh at your statements, look up terrorism.

And there were plenty of suicide terror attacks prior to Iran even existing. The idea of suicide bombing "as a tool of stateless terrorists" was only "dreamed up a hundred years ago by the European anarchists". Only reason Iran is blamed, is because they allegedly used it against the U.S during a time of war. And the only reason for example the Marine Barracks in Beirut is considered a terrorist attack despite the fact that the Marines in the Barracks had been actively engaged in the war and were fair targets. Is because they just as Israel want to Demonize Iran. Plain and simple. It fits your agenda to do so. But most people who look at it objectively, don't consider the attack as a terrorist attack. It was an attack by one party of the war against another party of the war.

And as people have mentioned, the Muslim brotherhood carried out attacks in mid 1900s. Hence why you were going to pin the blame on them during the Lavon Affair. Palestinian groups and Israeli groups carried out terrorist attacks against each other in the 20s and before. When the Zionist movement started.

But in regards to Islamic Terrism, the Saudi Terror Attack in 1802 is what started it. "The modern Islamic fundamentalist movements have their origins in the late 19th century. The Wahhabi movement, an Arabian fundamentalist movement that began in the 18th century, gained traction and spread during the 19th and 20th centuries."
"out of the 61 groups that are designated as terrorist organizations by the U.S. State Department, the overwhelming majority are Wahhabi-inspired and Saudi-funded groups, with a focus on the West and Iran as their primary enemy."