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Saudi Arabia may go broke before the US oil industry buckles - Telegraph

Saudi Arabia may go broke before the US oil industry buckles

It is too late for OPEC to stop the shale revolution. The cartel faces the prospect of surging US output whenever oil prices rise

If the oil futures market is correct, Saudi Arabia will start running into trouble within two years. It will be in existential crisis by the end of the decade.

The contract price of US crude oil for delivery in December 2020 is currently $62.05, implying a drastic change in the economic landscape for the Middle East and the petro-rentier states.

The Saudis took a huge gamble last November when they stopped supporting prices and opted instead to flood the market and drive out rivals, boosting their own output to 10.6m barrels a day (b/d) into the teeth of the downturn. Bank of America says OPEC is now "effectively dissolved". The cartel might as well shut down its offices in Vienna to save money.

If the aim was to choke the US shale industry, the Saudis have misjudged badly, just as they misjudged the growing shale threat at every stage for eight years. "It is becoming apparent that non-OPEC producers are not as responsive to low oil prices as had been thought, at least in the short-run," said the Saudi central bank in its latest stability report.

"The main impact has been to cut back on developmental drilling of new oil wells, rather than slowing the flow of oil from existing wells. This requires more patience," it said. One Saudi expert was blunter. "The policy hasn't worked and it will never work," he said.

By causing the oil price to crash, the Saudis and their Gulf allies have certainly killed off prospects for a raft of high-cost ventures in the Russian Arctic, the Gulf of Mexico, the deep waters of the mid-Atlantic, and the Canadian tar sands. Consultants Wood Mackenzie say the major oil and gas companies have shelved 46 large projects, deferring $200bn of investments.

The problem for the Saudis is that US shale frackers are not high-cost. They are mostly mid-cost, and as I reported from the CERAWeek energy forum in Houston, experts at IHS think shale companies may be able to shave those costs by 45pc this year - and not only by switching tactically to high-yielding wells.

Advanced pad drilling techniques allow frackers to launch five or ten wells in different directions from the same site. Smart drill-bits with computer chips can seek out cracks in the rock. New dissolvable plugs promise to save $300,000 a well. "We've driven down drilling costs by "We've driven down drilling costs by 50pc, and we can see another 30pc ahead," said John Hess, head of the Hess Corporation.

It was the same story from Scott Sheffield, head of Pioneer Natural Resources. "We have just drilled an 18,000 ft well in 16 days in the Permian Basin. Last year it took 30 days," he said. The North American rig-count has dropped to 664 from 1,608 in October but output still rose to a 43-year high of 9.6m b/d June. It has only just begun to roll over. "The freight train of North American tight oil has kept on coming," said Rex Tillerson, head of Exxon Mobil.

He said the resilience of the sister industry of shale gas should be a cautionary warning to those reading too much into the rig-count. Gas prices have collapsed from $8 to $2.78 since 2009, and the number of gas rigs has dropped 1,200 to 209. Yet output has risen by 30pc over that period. Until now, shale drillers have been cushioned by hedging contracts. The stress test will come over coming months as these expire. But even if scores of over-leveraged wild-catters go bankrupt as funding dries up, it will not do OPEC any good.

The wells will still be there. The technology and infrastructure will still be there. Stronger companies will mop up on the cheap, taking over the operations. Once oil climbs back to $60 or even $55 - since the threshold keeps falling - they will crank up production almost instantly.

OPEC now faces a permanent headwind. Each rise in price will be capped by a surge in US output. The only constraint is the scale of US reserves that can be extracted at mid-cost, and these may be bigger than originally supposed, not to mention the parallel possibilities in Argentina and Australia, or the possibility for "clean fracking" in China as plasma pulse technology cuts water needs.

Mr Sheffield said the Permian Basin in Texas could alone produce 5-6m b/d in the long-term, more than Saudi Arabia's giant Ghawar field, the biggest in the world.


Saudi Arabia is effectively beached. It relies on oil for 90pc of its budget revenues. There is no other industry to speak of, a full fifty years after the oil bonanza began.

Citizens pay no tax on income, interest, or stock dividends. Subsidized petrol costs twelve cents a litre at the pump. Electricity is given away for 1.3 cents a kilowatt-hour. Spending on patronage exploded after the Arab Spring as the kingdom sought to smother dissent. The International Monetary Fund estimates that the budget deficit will reach 20pc of GDP this year, or roughly $140bn. The 'fiscal break-even price' is $106.

Far from retrenching, King Salman is spraying money around, giving away $32bn in a coronation bonus for all workers and pensioners. He has launched a costly war against the Houthis in Yemen and is engaged in a massive military build-up - entirely reliant on imported weapons - that will propel Saudi Arabia to fifth place in the world defence ranking.

The Saudi royal family is leading the Sunni cause against a resurgent Iran, battling for dominance in a bitter struggle between Sunni and Shia across the Middle East. "Right now, the Saudis have only one thing on their mind and that is the Iranians. They have a very serious problem. Iranian proxies are running Yemen, Syria, Iraq, and Lebanon," said Jim Woolsey, the former head of the US Central Intelligence Agency.

Money began to leak out of Saudi Arabia after the Arab Spring, with net capital outflows reaching 8pc of GDP annually even before the oil price crash. The country has since been burning through its foreign reserves at a vertiginous pace. The reserves peaked at $737bn in August of 2014. They dropped to $672 in May. At current prices they are falling by at least $12bn a month.

Khalid Alsweilem, a former official at the Saudi central bank and now at Harvard University, said the fiscal deficit must be covered almost dollar for dollar by drawing down reserves.

The Saudi buffer is not particularly large given the country's fixed exchange system. Kuwait, Qatar, and Abu Dhabi all have three times greater reserves per capita. "We are much more vulnerable. That is why we are the fourth rated sovereign in the Gulf at AA-. We cannot afford to lose our cushion over the next two years," he said. Standard & Poor's lowered its outlook to "negative" in February. "We view Saudi Arabia's economy as undiversified and vulnerable to a steep and sustained decline in oil prices," it said.

Mr Alsweilem wrote in a Harvard report that Saudi Arabia would have an extra trillion of assets by now if it had adopted the Norwegian model of a sovereign wealth fund to recyle the money instead of treating it as a piggy bank for the finance ministry. The report has caused storm in Riyadh.

"We were lucky before because the oil price recovered in time. But we can't count on that again," he said.
OPEC have left matters too late, though perhaps there is little they could have done to combat the advances of American technology. In hindsight, it was a strategic error to hold prices so high, for so long, allowing shale frackers - and the solar industry - to come of age. The genie cannot be put back in the bottle.

The Saudis are now trapped. Even if they could do a deal with Russia and orchestrate a cut in output to boost prices - far from clear - they they might merely gain a few more years of high income at the cost of bringing forward more shale production later on. Yet on the current course their reserves may be down to $200bn by the end of 2018. The markets will react long before this, seeing the writing on the wall. Capital flight will accelerate.

The government can slash investment spending for a while - as it did in the mid-1980s - but in the end it must face draconian austerity. It cannot afford to prop up Egypt and maintain an exorbitant political patronage machine across the Sunni world.

Social spending is the glue that holds together a medieval Wahhabi regime at a time of fermenting unrest among the Shia minority of the Eastern Province, pin-prick terrorist attacks from ISIS, and blowback from the invasion of Yemen.


Diplomatic spending is what underpins the Saudi sphere of influence caught in a Middle East version of Europe's Thirty Year War, and still reeling from the after-shocks of a crushed democratic revolt.We may yet find that the US oil industry has greater staying power than the rickety political edifice behind OPEC.


Hmm..looks like the Saudis have dug themselves into a hole that would take some getting out of- crude prices seem to be caught in a perpetual slump and that's before the Iranians, with their 150 bln odd barrels of proven reserves, and Chinese tight oil have joined the party. Although their forex reserves should last the Saudis for 4-5 years, accelarating capital flight would see them in trouble much sooner than that.

Beyond the fate of the country itself, I am more interested in the impact of Saudia's unravelling finances and political decline on the dyanmics of the Syrain/Yemeni conflict and other Sunni insurgencies in the Middle East and beyond-hopefully it would deal a body blow to the likes of Al Nusra, Daesh, the Taliban, Al Shabab etc (although I would expect to see a concurrent rise in the risk of civil strife within the kingdom itself)...Interesting times ahead..
 
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If the aim was to choke the US shale industry, the Saudis have misjudged badly, just as they misjudged the growing shale threat at every stage for eight years. "It is becoming apparent that non-OPEC producers are not as responsive to low oil prices as had been thought, at least in the short-run," said the Saudi central bank in its latest stability report.

"The main impact has been to cut back on developmental drilling of new oil wells, rather than slowing the flow of oil from existing wells. This requires more patience," it said.
actually if you look at the results of the quarter released some days ago it will be clear that American companies involved in shale oil are barely making any profit and some are slightly in loss, and the quarter was marked by a large section of it with oil above or around 60 dollars a barrel.
With oil at it where it is now, the next quarter looks much bleaker as the old hedging levels will not protect them now and their profits will turn into losses quickly.
 
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If they can keep growth rates up, the deficit can be sustained through debt....

actually if you look at the results of the quarter released some days ago it will be clear that American companies involved in shale oil are barely making any profit and some are slightly in loss, and the quarter was marked by a large section of it with oil above or around 60 dollars a barrel.
With oil at it where it is now, the next quarter looks much bleaker as the old hedging levels will not protect them now and their profits will turn into losses quickly.

they're pretty much all in loss....For many even break even COST is above current market price. Their break even prices are way too high. Most analysts expect us shale output to start declining sharply from 2016 onwards. And saudia can sustain that long, it has reserves. Plus the saudi economy is headed the right way. The markets are growing in saudia very fast. It's not that big an issue for saudia right now.
 
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actually if you look at the results of the quarter released some days ago it will be clear that American companies involved in shale oil are barely making any profit and some are slightly in loss, and the quarter was marked by a large section of it with oil above or around 60 dollars a barrel.
With oil at it where it is now, the next quarter looks much bleaker as the old hedging levels will not protect them now and their profits will turn into losses quickly.

Price falls have undoubtedly affected the profit margins of small and medium drillers but the technology is improving rapidly and is mirrored in falling production costs. As the article points out, lower prices would merely result in more consolidation and better efficiencies in the US shale industry and prodution costs of major players are already in a range of $ 40-50 pb anyway..
 
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If they can keep growth rates up, the deficit can be sustained through debt....
Saudi economy is totally untaxed, even a 5 percent income tax would do wonders, property taxes, a GST, anything could easily cover their expenses, The Saudi economy is huge and it is untapped. There are 7.5 million expats in Saudi, and just taxing them would greatly decrease any deficit they have. Unlike economies which are over taxed, this economy is a gold mine.
 
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Saudi economy is totally untaxed, even a 5 percent income tax would do wonders, property taxes, a GST, anything could easily cover their expenses, The Saudi economy is huge and it is untapped. There are 7.5 million expats in Saudi, and just taxing them would greatly decrease any deficit they have. Unlike economies which are over taxed, this economy is a gold mine.

yeah, but I think they can even go without taxes.....

So they have lots of options....others in the game don't.
 
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Price falls have undoubtedly affected the profit margins of small and medium drillers but the technology is improving rapidly and is mirrored in falling production costs. As the article points out, lower prices would merely result in more consolidation and better efficiencies in the US shale industry and prodution costs of major players are already in a range of $ 40-50 pb anyway..
the level needed to maintain oil rigs from shale is near 55-60 actually. That is why the prices remained above that, the main reason for the drop in price is the anticipation of Iranian oil and the slowing of the Chinese economy and movement from oil rich endeavours to more technological ones which do not require so much energy.
yeah, but I think they can even go without taxes.....

So they have lots of options....others in the game don't.
yes that is what I do not get, the ones who wrote this article have totally ignored the earning options of Saudi government are very diverse in nature, not to mention so many projects which took most of the expenses, new city etc are near completion and can easily be sustained.
 
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yes that is what I do not get, the ones who wrote this article have totally ignored the earning options of Saudi government are very diverse in nature, not to mention so many projects which took most of the expenses, new city etc are near completion and can easily be sustained.

Not only can they raise taxes (I don't think they'd raise taxes cuz it could be bad for a fastly growing economy), they can issue debt and their credit rating is all good. I think that's what they'll do, issue debt IF they keep raising expenditure and oil prices don't go back up again in a few years.
 
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While I don't think the situation is anywhere close to how it's portrayed in the article, Saudi will have to make some significant changes. Technology and alternative fuel sources are only going to become more affordable over time.
 
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Not true
Saudi's are making almost same money with low oil prices because of higher output,
double the output at half the price earns the same dollars since cost of production is very low for Saudis
 
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Ambrose Evans-Pritchard is a paid shill for the fracking industry. He always writes sensationalist, attention-seeking articles that never come true. In fact, he even got kicked out of the White House for constant rumor-mongering and conspiracy theorizing.

Frankly, Saudi Arabia will be fine. Their liquid reserves/assets and hedge fund resources are simply too vast and can cushion them for an extremely long time while their rivals bleed.
 
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@Gufi you are not considering an important element here. US policy. If they want, they can provide support to their shale drillers. The US is working now with Iran. This is more than just an oil war. With their domestic supply in place and providing incentives to Iran, they are assured. The Chinese are not too concerned who provides them oil. Iran and Russia are fine too. The same goes for Japan and India.

How much time do you think it will take for the Americans to talk about democracy in SA? Believe me, the shit is just starting. Of course, developing countries like ours should make total use of this and make use of the low prices to provide boost to our own economies. But the ME is going to implode with Iran and Israel as major players.
 
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Sooner or laters US always comes back to haunt allies and democracy is the best stick to beat them with. saudis will be no exception its not going to happen first time with US ally nor it will be last
 
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@Gufi you are not considering an important element here. US policy. If they want, they can provide support to their shale drillers. The US is working now with Iran. This is more than just an oil war. With their domestic supply in place and providing incentives to Iran, they are assured. The Chinese are not too concerned who provides them oil. Iran and Russia are fine too. The same goes for Japan and India.
Hypothetical ideas are very easy to make sir, to actually look at facts and figures tells a very different story. USA and Iran can not work together while the Israeli and Saudi influence stays in Washington. The president is trying its best to try and get the deal passed through congress and faces stiff opposition.
US policies regarding shale are very complex, with environmentalists going after them for the earthquakes etc whose frequency has increased in areas with fracking. Also even after hedging oil companies barely made profits in the last quarter, this time they will have to play with much lower prices. Just these days there is a clean energy bill the Potus is trying to garner support for, the situation is very complex.
As far as Saudi economy is concerned, they have many ways they can finance themselves and their country is nearly completing many major money draining projects and the returns will start to come now.
How much time do you think it will take for the Americans to talk about democracy in SA? Believe me, the shit is just starting. Of course, developing countries like ours should make total use of this and make use of the low prices to provide boost to our own economies. But the ME is going to implode with Iran and Israel as major players.
they only bring democracy where they face opposition. As far as oil prices are concerned this is because the real economy of the world has already collapsed to a certain degree and what you see today is artificial money which does not require production and factories, just servers and ideas in the "cloud"

Not only can they raise taxes (I don't think they'd raise taxes cuz it could be bad for a fastly growing economy), they can issue debt and their credit rating is all good. I think that's what they'll do, issue debt IF they keep raising expenditure and oil prices don't go back up again in a few years.
Do not think basic tax is that hard to pay, even a 5 percent tax would make sure enough money is collected.
also there is a lot of potential in taxing the property etc slowly, a learning curve which will make sure they do not introduce anything abruptly.
 
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