Saudi Arabia has been granted full membership of the Financial Action Task Force (FATF)

[HAIDER]

All your sources do not agree with each other so your lie has been exposed. Common sense Pakistan needed at least three votes and Pakistan got them..Gangadesh failed.


NS fell out of favour a long time ago. I think after the death of Abdullah, NS had no supporter in KSA's royal family.


These idiots some of them are sectarian cretins and support Iran because of their sectarian affiliation. These are traitors because they put their sectarian affiliation above Islam & Pakistan.


Your comment will make Iran-India happy and you can collect your check. Your job is done and you did your sectarian duty.


Again trolling ...I know your rants against Pakistan, Pakistan army, Pakistani leadership, people and Pakistan's friends so nothing new..But I'm just letting the other members know who don't know about you.


What gives you the right to rant on KSA not voting for Pakistan while both of your countries (Canada & India) voted against Pakistan? In fact it is Gangadesh who is trying to blacklist Pakistan.
KSA and Pakistan have a very long history of strong relations and it will continue so in the future.
@Al Watan Al Arabi @The SC

May be you don't know the sufferings of thousands of Pakistani families in US. I deal with that. You guys have no idea how much foreign exchange Pakistani govt lost after 911. That is the biggest problem with you people, you ready to sacrifice national interest for others.
Do you know what laws are changed for Muslims and Pakistanis are 911 ? . I know you love Saudi Arabia or hate India or Iran , I have no problem. But reality never change .

Did KSA ask musharaf to agree all 7 demands just after 9/11?
Did KSA ask musharaf to do bombardment on the target where USA have hit missiles in frontier region?
Did KSA ask musharaf to turn blind eye on MQM and altaf hussain?
Did KSA ask musharaf to do lal majid operation without getting precautions?
Did KSA ask kiyani to do corruption and not act against anti national elements in the country?

Dear all these point make no sense to me , seems you are 15 year old kid.

 

[B.K.N]

May be you don't know the sufferings of thousands of Pakistani families in US.

If they are suffering in US then why they don't come back to Pakistan live here like we are living and then talk about Pakistan

 

[HAIDER]

If they are suffering in US then why they don't come back to Pakistan live here like we are living and then talk about Pakistan

Majority of them already deported or apply for asylum in Canada. Unfortunately, you guys not aware . Do you know after 911 thousands of Paksitani take refuge in Christian churches on Canadian border , just giving you idea. Thousands of sad stories.

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

Majority of them already deported or apply for asylum in Canada. Unfortunately, you guys not aware . Do you know after 911 thousands of Paksitani take refuge in Christian churches , just giving you idea.

LOL.

There are 3.5 million Arabs in the US. The by far largest Muslim ethnic group in the US. Not a single Arab was killed due to a hate crime post 9/11 motivated due to that incident. Muslims are fine in the US, stop saying otherwise. If that was not the case 100.000's of Arab students from KSA and other Arab and Muslim states would not be arriving to this day and thriving by large. Never experienced a single hostile episode in the US when I studied there for 1 year as an exchange student (California).

Similarly Westerners are fine in the GCC despite their governments having committed 100's of 9/11 in Iraq and Afghanistan.

This school boy logic/simplistic thinking is a bit of a joke as well as your agenda to blame every misery in Pakistan on KSA of all countries. It is laughable. No sane person can take it seriously.

 

[B.K.N]

Majority of them already deported or apply for asylum in Canada. Unfortunately, you guys not aware . Do you know after 911 thousands of Paksitani take refuge in Christian churches , just giving you idea.

Whatever happened to them is not our problem

 

[HAIDER]

LOL.

There are 3.5 million Arabs in the US. The by far largest Muslim ethnic group in the US. Not a single Arab was killed due to a hate crime post 9/11 motivated due to that incident. Muslims are fine in the US, stop saying otherwise. If that was not the case 100.000's of Arab students from KSA and other Arab and Muslim states would not be arriving to this day and thriving by large. Never experienced a single hostile episode in the US when I studied there for 1 year as an exchange student (California).

I know arab population more then you guys. And I know the history how they came and when they came and who brought them here. I will right that history sometime later.

Whatever happened to them is not our problem

That is your perception , we Pakistani in US don't perceive that way. Our number of organizations has to work for Pakistanis in US , whatever trouble they have.

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

I know arab population more then you guys. And I know the history how they came and when they came and who brought them here. I will right that history sometime later.

How is that possible when you don't speak Arabic? I lived in the US while studying and interacted with Arabs from almost all 20 Arab countries. Students alike and people born and breed in the US. I had interactions with American Latinos, Asian Americans, African-Americans, European Americans etc. as well which is natural as the US is a melting pot. I don't recognize the picture that you are trying to create.

I am very well-versed in the Arab diaspora (I have covered the Arab diaspora in Sub-Saharan Africa, Horn of Africa, South East Asia, South Asia, Central Asia, Caucasus, Turkey, Iran and Europe as well as the US on this forum extensively as have many other users). This is not the point of discussion.

 

[Reddington]

After reading the posts on this thread I will say that the sentiments on social media or here on pdf do not represent the sentiments of majority of Pakistanis.

Some over here are blinded by sectarianism whose loyalty lies with other foreign countries and some here are paid trolls working for foreign countries while some are ignorant folks.

There are only 2 allies that Pakistan has in this world that have always helped us through thick and thin no matter what. Saudi Arabia & China.

Saudi Arabia would always be our ally with or without any cooperation on FATF.

 

[Wilhelm II]

LOL.

There are 3.5 million Arabs in the US. The by far largest Muslim ethnic group in the US. Not a single Arab was killed due to a hate crime post 9/11 motivated due to that incident. Muslims are fine in the US, stop saying otherwise. If that was not the case 100.000's of Arab students from KSA and other Arab and Muslim states would not be arriving to this day and thriving by large. Never experienced a single hostile episode in the US when I studied there for 1 year as an exchange student (California).

Similarly Westerners are fine in the GCC despite their governments having committed 100's of 9/11 in Iraq and Afghanistan.

This school boy logic/simplistic thinking is a bit of a joke as well as your agenda to blame every misery in Pakistan on KSA of all countries. It is laughable. No sane person can take it seriously.

What do you use for PDF phone or pc?
( I hope you answer pc because I can't type speedy with phone)

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

After reading the posts on this thread I will say that the sentiments on social media or here on pdf do not represent the sentiments of majority of Pakistanis.

Some over here are blinded by sectarianism whose loyalty lies with other foreign countries and some here are paid trolls working for foreign countries while some are ignorant folks.

There are only 2 allies that Pakistan has in this world that have always helped us through thick and thin no matter what. Saudi Arabia & China.

Saudi Arabia would always be our ally with or without any cooperation on FATF.

Some of that tiny minority even go as far to say that KSA had a vote when that was not the case less than 24 hours ago, can you imagine! All while KSA (in the same time period) loaned more money to Pakistan than any other state and Imran Khan has visited KSA more often than any other foreign country. Really signs of bad relations, I guess. All while hosting the largest Pakistani expat community in the world. Both "deep states" working incredibly closely as well in the same time period. Funding as well of all kind of key projects behind closed doors. Pakistan takes part (alongside China) in the Saudi ballistic missile program that has been accelerated in recent years.

All signs of very hostile and unfriendly relations indeed.

What do you use for PDF phone or pc?
( I hope you answer pc because I can't type speedy with phone)

iPhone or my MacBook Pro. Mostly phone. Why you asking? I don't type quick at all. You should see of the youngsters nowadays. Another level.

 

[Wilhelm II]

Some of that tiny minority even go as far to say that KSA had a vote when that was not the case less than 24 hours ago, can you imagine! All while KSA (in the same time period) loaned more money to Pakistan than any other state and Imran Khan has visited KSA more often than any other foreign country. Really signs of bad relations, I guess. All while hosting the largest Pakistani expat community in the world. Both "deep states" working incredibly closely as well in the same time period. Funding as well of all kind to central projects. Pakistan takes part (alongside China) in the Saudi ballistic missile program that has been accelerated in recent years.

All signs of very hostile and unfriendly relations indeed.



iPhone or my MacBook Pro. Mostly phone. Why you asking? I don't type quick at all. You should see of the youngsters nowadays. Another level.

Because you type many I use one hand for typing and it's slow my hope destroyed

 

[Zapper]

All your sources do not agree with each other so your lie has been exposed. Common sense Pakistan needed at least three votes and Pakistan got them..Gangadesh failed

Now you are officially certified comprehensively blind

 

[New World]

Dear all these point make no sense to me , seems you are 15 year old kid.

sir, these are those points which our own people did to us..

we are the one who bow down and now all the responsibilities and blame lies only on us, because we allow others to do what they want to do with us..

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

These idiots some of them are sectarian cretins and support Iran because of their sectarian affiliation. These are traitors because they put their sectarian affiliation above Islam & Pakistan.

This is not the issue. We are not anti-KSA, but against the current policies of KSA under MBS after his coup and removal of the previous crown prince.

Since MBS took over, there have been several policy shifts and incidents against Pakistan’s interests:

1. Normalization of Israeli ties in Arab world. Israel is an enemy state to Pakistan whom we still do not recognize. It is also India’s closest ally and trading partner.

2. Regime change in Egypt through illegal coup. Morsi was an ally of Pakistan.

3. Action against Turkey. Pakistan’s closest Muslim ally.

4. Isolation of Qatar. Friend of Pakistan.

5. Promoting war and confrontation against Iran. We want to see peace between Sunni-Shias and Arab-Persians.

6. Proxy war in Syria, though Iran is mostly responsible for civilian deaths.

7. Invasion and proxy war in Yemen leading to a humanitarian disaster.

8. Normalizing Trump’s presidency and acting as his puppet, all while he is engaging in a war of words and economic attacks against Pakistan.

9. Withdrawing GCC’s FATF vote in favor of Pakistan at US orders, which resulted in this in direct economic disadvantages and political problems for Pakistan. This is the main issue.

Saudi Arabia would always be our ally with or without any cooperation on FATF.

If their master US is our avowed foe and their new open friend Israel wants our destruction, do you really think they will care what happens to Pakistan?

They will backstab and ditch us for Kuffar at any moment, just like their forefathers did during the Arab revolt against the Ottoman Khilafat.

The era of King Faisal bin AbdulAziz (RA) is over. KSA is an ally, but it is not reliable nor can we expect complete support from them as we can from Turkey and China.

 

[war&peace]

This is not the issue. We are not anti-KSA, but against the current policies of KSA under MBS after his coup and removal of the previous crown prince.

Since MBS took over, there have been several policy shifts and incidents against Pakistan’s interests:

1. Normalization of Israeli ties in Arab world. Israel is an enemy state to Pakistan whom we still do not recognize. It is also India’s closest ally and trading partner.

2. Regime change in Egypt through illegal coup. Morsi was an ally of Pakistan.

3. Action against Turkey. Pakistan’s closest Muslim ally.

4. Isolation of Qatar. Friend of Pakistan.

5. Promoting war and confrontation against Iran. We want to see peace between Sunni-Shias and Arab-Persians.

6. Proxy war in Syria, though Iran is mostly responsible for civilian deaths.

7. Invasion and proxy war in Yemen leading to a humanitarian disaster.

8. Normalizing Trump’s presidency and acting as his puppet, all while he is engaging in a war of words and economic attacks against Pakistan.

9. Withdrawing GCC’s FATF vote in favor of Pakistan at US orders, which resulted in this in direct economic disadvantages and political problems for Pakistan. This is the main issue.

Mate KSA has always tried to be on Pakistan's side and they have helped Pakistan on multiple occasions.
But we should know their limitations. It is not that they intentionally doing anything against Pakistan. They are extremely afraid of Arab spring. Which was the modus operandi of CIA under Obama's administration. Morsi was a democratically elected president of Egypt: a key country in MENA so that rang rings of danger... so he had to be removed. Similarly, Erdogan is very popular & democratically elected President of Turkish people and unlike the previous seculars, his being in power reminds the Arabs of Sultanat-e-Usmaniyya. Qatar is the headquarter of Aljazeera...again another nightmare for the Arab rulers since they know Aljazeera played an important role during the Arab springs..Thus all their policies are aimed at protecting and preserving their govts. Furthermore, they always need US & West's support to stay in power because it was the west that brought them into the power. Just remember, Donald Trump's threatening and demeaning statements that king you cannot stay in power for more than two weeks without us...thus they have to obey whatever they are commanded to. Still they do whatever good they can do within their control. Now they have a strong realisation that eventually USA & west will ditch them despite all their positive & goodwill gestures and they know Pakistan will come to their help and yes they will do.
Furthermore, Iran has done a lot more damage to Pakistan than any GCC country. Iran's IRGC has been involved in training the terrorist and sending them into Pakistan. RAW also been using Iranian land against Pakistan with the full knowledge & collusion of Iranians. BLA, BRA terrorists get cover either from Iran or NDS in Afghanistan.