Saudi Arabia executes prominent Shiite Ayatollah

[B@KH]

Just keep wishing..King Salman is actually good for the immigrants...Iqama raised to 5 Years, Kafeel powers curbed, checking and raids stopped...what else could you ask for..

you are chick. could not read what i said. and ofcourse that is the only hope for the monarchs.

 

[somebozo]

A bit off topic bit serves to show mirror..

What ever,,

you are chick. could not read what i said. and ofcourse that is the only hope for the monarchs.

In May 2003, al-Sadr issued a fatwa which became known as the al-Hawasim (meaning the finalists - a term used to refer to the looters of post-invasion Iraq) fatwa.[14] The fatwa allowed theft and racketeering on the condition that the perpetrators pay the requisite khums to Sadrist imams,[15] saying that "looters could hold on to what they had appropriated so long as they made a donation (khums) of one-fifth of its value to their local Sadrist office.” The fatwa alienated many older members of his father’s movement,[15]as well as mainstream Shiites,[16] and the Shia establishment and property-owning classes from the Sadrists.[14] However, the fatwa strengthened his popularity among the poorest members of society, notably in Sadr City.[17] It has been claimed that the original fatwa was actually issued by al-Sadr’s advisor Grand Ayatollah Kazem Husseini Haeri, and that al-Sadr was simply loyally issuing the same instruction.[14]

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[Madali]

well pointed out. the Iranian regime brutally crushed the opposition in the urban areas when it didnt have to
it tried its best to turn itself into Libya or Syria but it survived somehow

I don't want to go off-topic, but total death count for the 2009 protests was (including all sides) 36 deaths from official figures or around 75 from opposition figure. In a region, were we had thousands of dead in various countries, is 30-70 deaths in a country of 80 million population and so many enemies from abroad trying to overthrow the system a sign of "Iranian regime brutally crushed the opposition"?

You mention Libya, which had over 40,000 dead or Syria, which has so far over 200,000 dead. But you can also mention Egypt, which had over 4000 dead. Or how about Iraq, with over 20,000 after the Arab spring. Yemen had 10,000. Tunisia which has 12% of our population has 338 deaths. Bahrain which has 1.25% of our population had 120 plus deaths.

I'm mentioning this because in a country with 80 million population and protests all around the country and it not causing the country instability, with so little death (relatively), should logically prove that it was handled fairly well.

 

[Takaavar]

Sheikh Nemer made a mistake. In Saudi Arabia things don't work that way. Dialogue and criticism means nothing to these guya, their language is only Takfir and beheading. Welcome to 21th-century Arabia.

 

[Alshawi1234]

Saudi Arabia rulers have shown itself as the most disgusting, despicable, secterian, criminals throughout history. They are responsible for the creation of the worst ideologies to roam this earth from Abu sayaf, Boko haram, Al Shabab, alqaeda, Daesh and many other similar terrorist organizations which emerged from the neo-ummayid/ Wahhabism/ salafist ideologies. They praise the killers and blame the victims. if hypocracy was a man, he would be saudi.

They funded alqaeda in syria in Iraq and now try to present themselves as the good guys. They suppressed the call for democracy in Bahrain while supporting "democratic Islamic" terrorists in Syria. They destroyed and transgressed against the people of Yemen simply because they wanted to live as free men, and not slaves for saudi Wahhabism.

Saudis are some of the most corrupt people on earth with a big percentage of them practicing homosexuaity, going for pleasure vacations and partying in Europe and America while calling for an "Islamic state" for others.

The funded Saddams 8 year war against Iran and now somehow blame iran for causing hate, funny coming from the kingdom of hate and terrorism.

Some might say that we Iraqis suck up to iran. Here is just a small list of recent saudi history with Iraq.
1- paid their hired goons for the complete destruction of iraq in 1991.
2- allowed the us to continue bombing iraq from 1991-2002 from their land and enforced a complete blockade on a starving iraq... whilst even iran traded with the iraqis despite the UN embargo.
3- their hate preachers called on the killing of the majority of iraq's populace after 2003.
4- their terrorists came by the thousands and killed tens of thousands of iraqi citizens between 2003-2015
5- and in all that, the only thing their government was worried about is the "repatriation" and "rehabilition" of saudi terrorists from iraq.
6- saudi continued fighting against iraq post 2003 through their propaganda channels and via their terror-preachers.
7- whilst most countries wrote off the iraqi "odious debt" from the saddam era... saudi and kuwait are the only countries who want iraqis today to repay that blood money (which was originally given to saddam to fight a war on their behalf against iran) to the last cent.


While real terrorists are taken to rehab before getting out and leaving to Iraq and syria to commit suicide attacks. The people who protests are executed and crucified for "causing corruption"

A 17 year old terrorist who joined Daesh in syria and killed a few people in Syria returned to saudi Arabia and taken to rehab as he was a "irresponsible brainwashed minor".

While the 17 year old nephew of shiek Nimr may Allah rest his soul has been sentenced to death simply for protesting.

Anyone who doesn't see the flaw in all this is blind, dictated by hate and secterianism. I truly hope all those who read this use their conscience and choose to let their minds be free from the secterian ideology and just consider these facts even if only for a bit. Ask yourselves, is this right and justice?



Source: Saudi Arabia Cuts Ties With Iran | Page 10

 

[Abd-ar-Rahman III]

It's good to see that Saudi Arabia has cracked down on terrorists. It gives a strong message of zero tolerance for troublemakers regardless of their sect.
From what I have read in the Arab media this so-called "prominent" Ayatollah was no pacifist and his affiliated supporters killed local police and engaged in vandalism of property. He does not appear to have much support among the Shias in Saudi Arabia.

It is no surprise that the Iranian regime and its supporters are crying. It's time for the Arab world to stand united against such troublemakers.
It's obvious that the Iranian regime is only interested in causing destruction in the Arab world and installing more proxy groups to cause instability as we have seen in Lebanon, Palestine, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Bahrain and even attempts of it in my country, Egypt.

It's a shame because when Iran was ruled by the Shah the relations were cordial and the late Shah is also buried in Cairo.

 

[Shaagird]

Chantin Ya Ali R.A is The Sunnah of The Prophet S.A.W.W

MashAllah,

Can you please quote this tradition ?

it was me, yes! my duplicate account. the moment i was going to press the post button for reply,some
moderator banned me.Its Qouted in Madarij-un-Nabowat by Shah Abdul Haque Muhaddith Dehlvi, a Sunni Scholar,
that in Battle Of Uhad When The Prophet SAWW was surrounded and attacked by kuffars of Makkah, HE SAWW Said Ya ALI!, O ALI! Help and Defend ME SAWW against these kuffars
just like we call for help from our friends.......
That's the reason all Sufi saints and Sunnis Chant Ya ALI R.A. (most of the time to tease the nasibis) now plz don,t question the credibility of Shah Abdul Haque Muhaddith Dehlvi, as you are a Wahabi Muslim n you won,t believe........Peace!

 

[sinagood]

we are very happy that sudi-arabia cuts his relation with our country
cancelling haj travel has alot of benefity for us

 

[Sinnerman108]

it was me, yes! my duplicate account. the moment i was going to press the post button for reply,some
moderator banned me.Its Qouted in Madarij-un-Nabowat by Shah Abdul Haque Muhaddith Dehlvi, a Sunni Scholar,
that in Battle Of Uhad When The Prophet SAWW was surrounded and attacked by kuffars of Makkah, HE SAWW Said Ya ALI!, O ALI! Help and Defend ME SAWW against these kuffars
just like we call for help from our friends.......
That's the reason all Sufi saints and Sunnis Chant Ya ALI R.A. (most of the time to tease the nasibis) now plz don,t question the credibility of Shah Abdul Haque Muhaddith Dehlvi, as you are a Wahabi Muslim n you won,t believe........Peace!

Dehavi !

Tera kya banay ga reeeeeeee .... Kya ho ga tera !

 

[Shaagird]

Dehavi !

Tera kya banay ga reeeeeeee .... Kya ho ga tera !

i told you, that you wont believe

 

[Sinnerman108]

i told you, that you wont believe

Grow up about,20 or so years,

and then we will talk.

 

[Shaagird]

wisdom does not relate to age

 

[ASHARR]

Pakistan only have to options.
1) Be neutral . ( which is not possible in any sort of military conflict between iran & KSA) .
2) Support KSA

 

[Solomon2]

Dispatches
Michael J. Totten

The Saudi-Iranian Eruption
4 January 2016


Saudi Arabia has severed diplomatic ties with Iran after a mob set fire to the Saudi embassy in Tehran, stormed the compound and trashed its offices while Iranian security personnel stood aside.

This is hardly anything new. The Iranian government has been violently contemptuous of worldwide norms of diplomacy ever since it seized power in 1979. The Iranian hostage crisis, where Islamist revolutionaries held 52 foreign servicemen and women hostage at the American Embassy for 444 days, was just the beginning.

Four years later, Iran’s terrorist proxies in Lebanon used to a suicide truck bomb to destroy the American embassy in Beirut.

Ten years later they blew up the Israeli embassy in Argentina, also with a suicide truck bomb.

In 2012, Azerbaijan arrested 22 members of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Corps and Hezbollah for plotting attacks on the American and Israeli embassies in Baku.

Like Iran, Azerbaijan is a Shia-majority nation, but unlike Iran, its government has normal and even warm relations with the United States and Israel. And like most of the world, Azerbaijanis understand and respect the sovereignty of foreign embassies. The Iranians don’t, so the Saudis are calling everyone home and giving the Iranians 48 hours to leave the country or else.

Saudi Arabia and Iran have been enemies since the 1979 revolution, but their hatred for each other is far older than either regime. It stretches all the way back to the time of the Persian Empire.

It’s slightly amazing that they’ve had diplomatic relations at all. They have more grievances against each other—some of them reasonable, others bigoted, sectarian and hysterical—than anyone outside the region could ever keep track of.

The Iranians didn’t torch and sack the Saudi embassy just because they woke up in the morning and felt like it, though. The Saudis kicked off the latest round when they executed Shia cleric Nimr al-Nimr.

Nimr lived in Saudi Arabia’s enormous Eastern Province. It’s where most of the oil fields are. It’s also—inconveniently for Riyadh—the one place where Shia Muslims make up the majority in an otherwise Sunni-dominated kingdom. Nimr had been calling for democratic elections and for the Shias to secede if their rights weren’t better respected.

He was right to complain. Saudi Arabia is the most backward and medieval society in the entire world outside ISIS- and Taliban-occupied territory. Tehran is like Amsterdam compared with Riyadh despite the Iranian government’s theocratic regulations and draconian enforcers.

During a series of protests in 2011 and 2012, Nimr called on Shia demonstrators to resist the Saudi government with words rather than violence. “The weapon of the word is stronger than the power of lead,” he said.

The Saudis called him a terrorist and cut off his head.

Unless the Saudi government knows something about him that the rest of us don’t, this is pretty outrageous.

The Iranians are almost right to be furious, but not quite. They’re furious for the wrong reasons. They’d be just as furious if the guy was really a terrorist. They’d be just as furious if he’d been dispatching squads of suicide bombers to Riyadh and Medina. The Iranian regime murdered its way into power and tortures and murders to keep itself in power. It doesn’t care about human rights any more than Kim Jong-un of North Korea.

Tehran’s rulers are just bent out of shape because Nimr was a fellow Shia who could have been useful if the global Sunni-Shia war—which Iran does everything in its power to keep ablaze—were to engulf Saudi Arabia as it has just about everywhere else Sunnis and Shias live next to each other.

Which isn’t to say the Saudi rulers aren’t violating anyone’s human rights. Of course they are. They do so as a matter of course. Their absolute monarchy isn’t drastically different from the ISIS “caliphate” in Syria and Iraq except that Riyadh plays well with others diplomatically and pushes back hard against Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood.

The Saudis do so for entirely self-interested reasons, of course. They don’t care about human rights any more than the Iranians do. They’re the world biggest proponents of hardline Sunni fanaticism. The only reason they’re bothered by ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood is because ISIS and the Brotherhood threaten the Saudi royal family’s stranglehold on absolute power.

Americans can be excused for watching the Saudis and Iranians slug it out as if they were Hitler and Stalin beating the crap out of each other in Europe.

We have to stick with the Saudis, though, like it or not, the same way we stuck with the Soviet Union against the Nazis.

The Washington-Riyadh alliance is strictly transactional. We have common enemies and common economic interests, and that’s it. There is no warmth there, no real friendship, on either side. We rightly find the Saudis distasteful. They find us distasteful, too, because they’re a thousand years behind us. They’re a thousand years behind almost everyone in the world, including much of the Arab world.

But we have to stand by them—and not just because they have oil—because they don’t actively work against us like the Iranians do despite the negotiated nuclear “deal” between Tehran and Washington earlier this year.

So: good on the Saudis for kicking the Iranians out even though the Saudis instigated the recent unpleasantness with their usual appalling behavior.

 

[Hussain Farooqui]

The scums in this showed that level of stupidly of humans is much more than imagination. I hope India execute Pakistani sunni clergies so we will not see anymore suicide attacks in pakistan.

The first Shia Sunni riot on mass scale in Pakistan was engineered by the Irani Consul General of Karachi in 1983. It was the inaction of Zia's govt. which generated a series of riots which caused the deaths of thousands of both Sunnis and Shias. Good that Saudi heavily discouraged the foreign intervention by executing a culprit of foreign intervention.