Saudi Arabia ends an almost decade-old $560 million aid program to Bosnia

[Chak Bamu]

I don't care much about Persians or about Arabs. For me, it is the Turkish people only matters. For the record, I don't believe in Ummah. I believe Iranians and Arabs are thinking like me too.

I find that a saddening thought. When Muslims of British India collected money for helping Turks fight against occupiers in 1920s, they were helping fellow Muslims because of the concept of Ummah. When Muslim soldiers refused to fight against Turks in WW1, they were doing so because of Turks being part of Ummah.

I know that Kemalist thinking disowns religious concepts like Ummah, but still you guys received help in your time of need precisely because of this concept that you now disown.

When Iranians, Pakistanis, and Arabs of various countries helped Bosnians, they were doing so because of this concept. I would argue that if Bosnia (& Kosovo) of today exists because of this concept of Ummah. If we thought that Turks should be responsible for Bosnians, then why would we have stepped in? Turks by themselves could not have saved Bosnia without openly declaring war on Serbia - an impossibility. You may disown this concept, but it was a determining factor in the world that you live in today.

 

[KingMamba]

Well that was evident given his lack of knowledge and the nonsense he was passing of as "facts". Trust me, I am 100 percent sure that he is one of the many Iranians who consider Islam an Arab invention and who still hold grudges that the Iranians were conquered by us Arabs 1400 years ago and spread Islam and all that followed.

Hence why the Iranians who oppose the Iranian regime call them Arabs and alien. You see you just need to visit a Iranian forum and see such tendencies by yourself in full light. It is practically found among all non-Muslims from nations that are non-Arabic. They blame all their miseries on Arabs and still hold grudges against us. Let them bark. While they bark the current number of Muslims - 1.6 billion is only increasing by each second.

Well read my post 94 he never responded to that. The truth is it does not matter who did the most to spread Islam and we should all thank one another for their contributions. The Persians he listed did not spread Islam because they were Persians, they spread Islam because they were proud Muslims.

Oh yeah you are right about that in the bold. This is what he was saying in the last conversation I had on Islam with him.

Your post reeks of Arab arrogance, though i'm not surprised. Islam isn't a Arab religion, just because it originated in Arabia doesn't mean its an Arab religion. Islam was the religion of Adam and Eve, the first human beings, no where in the Quran is it mentioned that these two individuals had a ethnic or racial identity, so quite giving Islam a Arab color.

Secondly, and i have said this before to another Arab member here before on this forum (Banu Ummayah), Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and the Quran were sent to you Arabs not because you were superior or special, but rather because you were backwards, ignorant, and cruel (not much has changed though, since then).

The two major sects, Shia and Sunni, exist because you people can't put aside your differences and agree on one thing. You're ready to butcher each other for the throne of power.



I don't know which history books you've been reading but Arab armies never engulfed the whole of Anatolia, they only went as far as the Levant and Syria region and the southern tip of Anatolia, but not the whole Turkey. Later on that region that early Arabs did conquer was once again under European Christian hands during the Crusades. Only Salahudin recaptured some of this region, and he was a Kurd (before you start claiming him as an "Arab"), which are a branch of the Iranian peoples.



All i ever understood from this part of your post was "since we Arabs built the mosque in this region, therefore we claim it as an Arab achievement"!! "We superior Arabs subdued the Persians, the Turks, etc etc, yeah worship us Arabs, we are the best Muslims ever, we're all going to heaven guaranteed".

Anyways, i can only laugh at such people who believe they have a right to claim Islam as their personal property and thus expect other Muslims to give them a higher status amongst themselves.

Agreed which is what I am saying we should all thank one another as brothers instead of trying to one up one another. I remember that Banu Ummayah guy he said Mecca and Medina was Saudi property, made me laugh because if he said that to the ultra religious Pakistanis they would declare war on him.

 

[KingMamba]

@Desert Fox I just read some of al Hasani's posts in another thread, he is borderline racist.

 

[KingMamba]

@al-Hasani

I just went through the other thread, quite frankly you are racist towards Iranians and I can see why Surenas would want to piss you off. You guys can tear into each other some more, I will take my leave.

 

[mehmeTcc]

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Pakistanis supported Ummah with their money, Turks with their blood. Thousands of Turkish killed just because of Arab ignorance.

 

[Mosamania]

Thread closed. Until you people learn to respect one another in every way. There will be tighter moderation.

I will not clean up the thread because if I did, lots of pink flags will be set up. Behave yourselves. SO what if you are Turkish, Arabic, Persian, Pakistani, etc. In the end of the day we ALL bleed red.