Saudi Arabia behind Syria's Chemical Attacks claims Russia

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I like this trend in PDF; every tom, dick and harry country here thinks that Russia is a pushover except USA who is actually the only country capable of fighting against them.

Whether Saudi will be attacked or not, no one can say. But there will be some sort of retribution. Maybe a Russian invasion of a country with key US base just to make up for the loss of their own Naval base at Tartus.

If I started giving russian books or sources on russian black weaponry,it will be denounced as CCCP propaganda by the westerners.If I cite DIA/CIA reports on Russian nuclear ABM capability or black weaponry it will be again denounced as US military propaganda to inflate Russian capabilities .

Its a funny situation here on PDF.Everybody wants to day dream that Russia is weak .

I like this trend in PDF; every tom, dick and harry country here thinks that Russia is a pushover except USA who is actually the only country capable of fighting against them.

Whether Saudi will be attacked or not, no one can say. But there will be some sort of retribution. Maybe a Russian invasion of a country with key US base just to make up for the loss of their own Naval base at Tartus.

Cite Russian books on russian military black weapons or CIA/DIA reports on Russian military ABM/Black weapons still you are CCCP propagandist unless you day dream that russia is weak.

 

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Dirty windscreen and some creative editing in the negative spectrum? Fail?
Read comments on the youtube site, it's debunked as fake, no man made material can travel at those speeds through atmosphere regardless of your babbling about S-300 exotic propulsion.

You might read another interesting hypothesis by Ed Ward who seems to think it was destroyed by Gazelle, Though what my friend in MVD told me was this was intercepted by one of S-300 VM variants .
Did A Russian Nuclear Anti-Ballistic Missile Split The Chelyabinsk Meteor?
He does give good comparison with Tunguska ,but he seems to relay too much on the Gazelle missile hypothesis ,but gazelle is not ultramanuverable,S-300 and its variants are ultramanuverable.

Source = weird ala conspiracy type thing. I'll believe my hypothesis above, thanks very much.
Meteor does not maneuver, hypothetical missile that intercepts it does not need to be maneuverable.
So much for covering basics.....imho you're just salivating with fanboyism so that you can claim in the next thread: "S-300 shot down a meteorite"...

At least I will survive a nuclear war in one of these. You will be vaporised in the first wave of russian nukes that will impact the US mainland in about 17 minutes. Call me when your pathetic nation has 200 underground cities comparable to the one of Ramenki or 32 cities comparable to Yamantau .

lol, pitiful creature.

 

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Considering Russians had world class material sciences and metallurgical knowledge , its good probablity. Russians were first to create carbon nanotubes in 1952 , 20 years before the west replicated such a feat.Also they were the first to build submarines with titanium and today have the deepest diving nuclear submarine losharik which can dive to depth of 6000 m(another feat no american nuclear submarine can dream of replicating.

Who cares about the 50's, it went all downhill steadily soon after in the science department, in the 70's USSR was already behind, they were so great they wore sticky shoes when invited to Boeing factory to scrape up the alloy remains on the floor. Which is a great trick but it goes in contrary to what you're saying about metallurgy.
Additionally, iirc Russian made jet engines have lower life time then western ones precisely because of weaker alloys that make up the turbine blades.

On a visit to Boeing, a Soviet guest applied adhesive to his shoes to obtain metal samples.

https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/96unclass/farewell.htm

Most western jets have easily double the amount of time interval between overhauls and double the engine life when compared to Chinese and/or Russian engines. The difference lies in material sciences. The alloys and materials used can double the life of the engine thus greatly reducing service costs.

WS13 / RD-33 / RD-93 engine

 

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As usual Russian prop.

Hey folks, Did you know that the creation of Australia was the result of a Soviet Nuclear Missile test which occured during the cold war..........

 

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I like this trend in PDF; every tom, dick and harry country here thinks that Russia is a pushover except USA who is actually the only country capable of fighting against them.

Never said they are a pushover. I also find it funny every Vijay, Sanjay and Rahul seem to talk out of their ass when it comes to Russia.

 

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ol, are you making this up?
This picture proves nothing, the bit in the circle could as well have been a piece of the meteor flying off. Actually it probably is, since it is coming from the back and any interception missile wouldn't have been chasing a meteor from the tail. So, yea, you fail again.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...al-attacks-claims-russia-3.html#ixzz2e7FHObmd

depends if the missile speed is very high something like 100 km/second , then yes it can intercept it but then the missile will have exotic propulsion like MGD or electrokinetic engine the kind Mr.Maxim Kalashnikov detailed in his work on the Ayaks vessel . Also initial reports by russian military commanders stated shootdown of meteor .

Meteor does not maneuver, hypothetical missile that intercepts it does not need to be maneuverable.
So much for covering basics..

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...al-attacks-claims-russia-3.html#ixzz2e7G2Bmai

considering that the altitude was 20 km and the missile launcher was 30-60 km away from impact point , quasi -ballistic or cruise missile type behavior for an interceptor would be good.Which S-300 and its variants are capable of.Also do consider the potential impact site would have near one of the biggest military labs of Russia. So such

lol, pitiful creature.

Why like fox who said the grapes are sour.

Source = weird ala conspiracy type thing.

I am sorry , but most russians are not into the political correctness of the westerners. Most are convinced by the circumstances that the meteor was shot down by a S-300 .And many specs of the S-300 are classified.

lol, are you making this up?
This picture proves nothing, the bit in the circle could as well have been a piece of the meteor flying off.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...al-attacks-claims-russia-3.html#ixzz2e7HiUN26

If the part had fallen off then it would have risen above the meteor and burnt up not gone and slammed ,come out and go back to impact it. Also it would have instanteously disintegrated instead of piercing the meteor ,coming out it and then turning around to impact it again.

Dirty windscreen and some creative editing in the negative spectrum? Fail?

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...al-attacks-claims-russia-3.html#ixzz2e7JFuWe7

or like the initial reports of russian military stating interception? considering that impact zone was near yamantau facility its obvious the russian military would shoot it down.

Who cares about the 50's, it went all downhill steadily soon after in the science department, in the 70's USSR was already behind, they were so great they wore sticky shoes when invited to Boeing factory to scrape up the alloy remains on the floor. Which is a great trick but it goes in contrary to what you're saying about metallurgy.
Additionally, iirc Russian made jet engines have lower life time then western ones precisely because of weaker alloys that make up the turbine blades.



https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/96unclass/farewell.htm



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is that why USA space rockets fly on russian RD-180 or is it why that USA had to steal russian steal russian algorithm to develop stealth bomber? We have marabu stealth generator already.

Who cares about the 50's, it went all downhill steadily soon after in the science department, in the 70's USSR was already behind,

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...al-attacks-claims-russia-3.html#ixzz2e7KCxQQb

the only place Russia was downhill was electronics , semiconductor chips and computers,consumer products,civilian automobiles . In metallurgy,physics and material sciences ,Russia was leader till its collapse.

Call me when you guys can make supercements like how russians made for their bunkers or deep diving subs like Losharik.Or supersonic sea skimmers like Yakhonts,Moskit etc.

Also , we were first in making an LNG /hydrogen plane which would advanced metallurgy for storage which is a feat your nation has not replicated for civilian planes.

 

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depends if the missile speed is very high something like 100 km/second , then yes it can intercept it but then the missile will have exotic propulsion like MGD or electrokinetic engine the kind Mr.Maxim Kalashnikov detailed in his work on the Ayaks vessel . Also initial reports by russian military commanders stated shootdown of meteor .

lol, more fantasies. In development since the 80's....not even greedy American MIC takes so much time.

Do you even know how much km/h is 100km/sec?

considering that the altitude was 20 km and the missile launcher was 30-60 km away from impact point , quasi -ballistic or cruise missile type behavior for an interceptor would be good.Which S-300 and its variants are capable of.Also do consider the potential impact site would have near one of the biggest military labs of Russia. So such

look you quasi knowitall, a Gazelle launch, it can move perfectly fine:

Why like fox who said the grapes are sour.

No, you really are a pitiful creature that keeps debating senseless claims which i debunk as we go. And crying about nuclear destruction at the same time. While not knowing much about anything. So, i pity you, but bottom line that won't stop me from making a fool out of you even further.

I am sorry , but most russians are not into the political correctness of the westerners. Most are convinced by the circumstances that the meteor was shot down by a S-300 .And many specs of the S-300 are classified.

Irelevant point. Who cares what Russians are convinced. Facts are facts, not susceptible to biased opinions.

If the part had fallen off then it would have risen above the meteor and burnt up not gone and slammed ,come out and go back to impact it. Also it would have instanteously disintegrated instead of piercing the meteor ,coming out it and then turning around to impact it again.

Those are reflections off a dirty windscreen and fastforwarding and rewinding them in quick succesion confused your electricty deprived brains.
It also doesn't make any sense, missile could not have penetrated, exited on the other side and then turned back at it again. it would have simply exploded.

or like the initial reports of russian military stating interception? considering that impact zone was near yamantau facility its obvious the russian military would shoot it down.

Don't know anything about these reports. Frankly, don't even care, explanation above should suffice to see through the smoke and mirrors of Russian exageration of their own capabilities. probably command later saw what a ludicrous claim it was and removed the report.

is that why USA space rockets fly on russian RD-180 or is it why that USA had to steal russian steal russian algorithm to develop stealth bomber? We have marabu stealth generator already.

This engine cost $10 million and produces almost 1 million pounds of thrust. You can't do that with an American-made engine."

Wired 9.12: From Russia, With 1 Million Pounds of Thrust

That's why. Also, kid, rocket engines and jet engines are in a separate league. Rocket engine has to work only once for less then an hour, jet engine must work 1000+ hours. Oh, wait, if it's Russian only 800. LOL!

Also, marabu stealth generator? Is this something that goes with magneto-plasmo-chemical engines? LOL! More fantasies? is it some sort of plasma that inhibits radar reflections but glows like a torch on IR?

Ufimtsev's superiors considered his work (among which was the algorhythm) of no value to economics/military so it was published not knowing it's implications.
The Americans just used it more wisely. They translated it 10 years later, so russians had sort of a head start for 10 years but weren't even aware of it. Please kid, i know much more then you do.

the only place Russia was downhill was electronics , semiconductor chips and computers,consumer products,civilian automobiles . In metallurgy,physics and material sciences ,Russia was leader till its collapse.

Sure cupcake, leaders in so many fields don't collapse. Keep dreaming....

 

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lol, more fantasies. In development since the 80's....not even greedy American MIC takes so much time.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...al-attacks-claims-russia-3.html#ixzz2e7PxKz5S

According to Mr.Kalashnikov operational since 70's.

Those are reflections off a dirty windscreen and fastforwarding and rewinding them in quick succesion confused your electricty deprived brains.
It also doesn't make any sense, missile could not have penetrated, exited on the other side and then turned back at it again. it would have simply exploded.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...al-attacks-claims-russia-3.html#ixzz2e7QMXnjY

Considering the initial reports by the russian military and the eyewitness statements ,your statements have no credibility.

It also doesn't make any sense, missile could not have penetrated, exited on the other side and then turned back at it again. it would have simply exploded.

That was a thought of myself.But then there is considerable use of diamondiod components in Russian military missiles , there might be possiblity of such behavior though.But then thats why a lot of people think it was some black weapon used whose existence might be known after 30 years as a conceptual project(just like ayaks or psychotronics whose weapons exist in Russia ,but officially are concepts , refer psychotronic Golgotha you will realise how advanced Russia was in making bio-robots and electromagnetic and torsional mind control weapons. I do not know much about torsional but there is a lot of hush hush and secrey in Russian military on Torsional physics .

Mind Justice - Psychotronic Golgotha

No, you really are a pitiful creature that keeps debating senseless claims which i debunk as we go. And crying about nuclear destruction at the same time. While not knowing much about anything. So, i pity you, but bottom line that won't stop me from making a fool out of you even further.


Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...al-attacks-claims-russia-3.html#ixzz2e7Sdj8ti

debunk ? you have provided no evidence.

And crying about nuclear destruction at the same time. While not knowing much about anything. So, i pity you, but bottom line that won't stop me from making a fool out of you even further.

You close your eyes like a pigeon.The russian general staff and they continue building civil defence for population survival.

Don't know anything about these reports. Frankly, don't even care, explanation above should suffice to see through the smoke and mirrors of Russian exageration of their own capabilities. probably command later saw what a ludicrous claim it was and removed the report.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...al-attacks-claims-russia-3.html#ixzz2e7TA6YW3

This explanation is the biggest load of BS I ever read.You do know that Chelyabinsk-70 happens to be interconnected with Yamantau underground city and it happens to be the one of largest military science cities in Russia? Sorry ,but the russian military interception is more credible as Chelyabinsk is very critical to Russian military .

Irelevant point. Who cares what Russians are convinced. Facts are facts, not susceptible to biased opinions.


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Says the person who already has a bias. thats funny.By the way ,some of the physicists at Novosibirsk have published a paper recently stating that the meteor was destroyed by some kind of missile or high speed weapon and the official explanation is nonsense.

Also, marabu stealth generator? Is this something that goes with magneto-plasmo-chemical engines? LOL! More fantasies? is it some sort of plasma that inhibits radar reflections but glows like a torch on IR?


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something like this:

Russian commander: Tu-160s penetrate US airspace undetected
Tuesday, April 25, 2006
File:Tupolew Tu 160 sideview.jpg
The Tupolev Tu-160 is a supersonic stategic bomber (File picture)
A senior Russian air force commander has claimed that new, upgraded Tu-160 bomber aircraft were unchallenged by US air defense systems when they penetrated a radar zone near the Canadian coast in US territory during an April training exercise, reports the Russian news agency RIA Novosti.
Commander of Russia's long-range strategic bombers, Lieutenant General Igor Khvorov said that the bombers successfully carried out four mock Tu-95MS cruise missile launches, 200 mock bombings, and 53 mock sorties during the exercise. The RIA Novosti reported that the United States Air Force is currently investigating how the Tu-160's escaped detection.
Lieutenant General Igor Khvorov said, "They were unable to detect the planes either with radars or visually
Russian commander: Tu-160s penetrate US airspace undetected - Wikinews, the free news source

Seems like Marabu stealth generator at work.In Russia ,plasma stealth generator is known as Marabu. Second,Marabu uses cold plasma not hot plasma.

 

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Ufimtsev's superiors considered his work (among which was the algorhythm) of no value to economics/military so it was published not knowing it's implications.
The Americans just used it more wisely. They translated it 10 years later, so russians had sort of a head start for 10 years but weren't even aware of it. Please kid, i know much more then you do.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...al-attacks-claims-russia-3.html#ixzz2e7X4Szyk

lol, another joke.Maybe you should research on the marabu generator.Its original purpose was for the supersonic and hypersonic cruise missiles like Meteorit-A and Meteorit-B in the 80's.Yep , you stole our algorithm.Admit it. Now it is rumored to be deployed for the Kh-101 cruise missiles.

That's why. Also, kid, rocket engines and jet engines are in a separate league.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...al-attacks-claims-russia-3.html#ixzz2e7XRIhCh

another one.Why does USA buy and beg for RD-180 then ?where is the supa dupa metallurgy of supa powa USA to build supa powa rocket.

go back and get your smack and crack from the dealer downtown.

Sure cupcake, leaders in so many fields don't collapse. Keep dreaming....

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So then why is your deficit so big versus and why do you import all your electronics and computers from abroad.What happened to your automobile sector and why is Detroit a shithole?

Why is the US economy performing so poorly ,despite such supa dupa powa science of USA.

 

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Saudi Arabia is a despotic regime and a state sponsor of terrorism, they should be nuked back to the Stone Age by Russia.

 

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Apparently PressTV is claiming the same thing:

PressTV - Saudi Prince Bandar behind chemical attack in Syria: Report



Saudi Prince Bandar behind chemical attack in Syria: Report

Syrians in the Damascus suburb of Ghouta say Saudi Arabia provided chemical weapons for an al-Qaeda linked terrorist group which they blame for the August 21 chemical attack in the region, a Mint Press News report says.


The article co-authored by a veteran AP reporter, said interviews with doctors, residents, anti-government forces and their families in Ghouta suggest the terrorists in question received chemical weapons via Saudi spymaster Saudi Arabia's intelligence chief Prince Bandar bin Sultan Al Saud.

The report quoted the father of a militant as saying that his son and 12 others were killed inside a tunnel used to store weapons supplied by a Saudi militant leader, known as Abu Ayesha.

The man described the weapons as having a “tube-like structure” while others were like a “huge gas bottle.”

Anti-government forces, interviewed in the article, complained they were not informed of the nature of the weapons they had been given, nor did they receive instructions how to use them.

“When Saudi Prince Bandar gives such weapons to people, he must give them to those who know how to handle and use them,” said one militant.

Another militant accused the Takfiri militants of the al-Qaeda-linked al-Nusra Front of refusing to cooperate with other insurgents or sharing secret information. “They merely used some ordinary rebels to carry and operate this material,” he said.

“We were very curious about these arms. And unfortunately, some of the fighters handled the weapons improperly and set off the explosions,” he added.

The authors noted that the doctors who treated the chemical weapons attack victims cautioned interviewers against asking questions regarding who exactly was responsible for the deadly assault.

Also more than a dozen militants interviewed said their salaries came from the Saudi government. They reportedly said Prince Bandar is referred to as “al-Habib” (the lover) by al-Qaeda militants fighting in Syria.

According to Independent, it was Prince Bandar’s intelligence agency that first accused the Syrian government in February of using sarin gas in a bid to rally support for Riyadh’s efforts to topple Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

And The Wall Street Journal has reported that the Saudi spy chief is considered by the CIA as "a veteran of the diplomatic intrigues of Washington and the Arab world [who] could deliver what the CIA couldn’t: planeloads of money and arms, and...wasta, Arabic for under-the-table clout."

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