What's new

Saudi Arabia behind Syria's Chemical Attacks claims Russia

----
Urals meteorite allegedly intercepted by Russia’s air defensePhoto: RIA Novosti
A massive meteorite crash shook the Urals region in central Russia early Friday, shattering windows and prompting panic in three major cities. According to some reports, the meteor was intercepted by the air defense complex at the Urzhumka village near the Russian city of Chelyabinsk, when a salvo missile allegedly burst the “shooting star” at an altitude of 20 kilometers.
Read more: Urals meteorite allegedly intercepted by Russia
----

If you were following the initial coverage by local russian newspapers like Znak even RT and almost all major russian news stations were reporting the statements of the aerospacedefense complex commanders in Chelyabinsk,till there was a gag order given by the higher russian authorities and EMERCOM who later started denying any such interception as such events are extremely sensitive for National security reasons and could easily become international issues where official military capablities of Russia would be questioned .

Kid, allegedly doesn't count here. Solid source or GTFO.


Who's talking about Moscow ? I am talking about the entire Russian Federation.

We have over 10,000 nuclear ABM according to William T Lee(former senior level DIA analyst who was responsible the ABM capabilities of the Moscow ABM ),Refer to ABM Treaty Illusion and Delusion...

LOL! 10.000? hahahahahahha, you're a joker using overblown estimates (overblown estimates and US intelligence goes hand in hand) from the 80's...btw, kid, there's an agreement between US and Russia on limiting ABM as well as nuclear weapons. And under that agreement only one site could have been protected. So, after Bush scrapped it in early 2000's, you're telling me Russians built tens of thousands missiles? Who are you trying to fool here kid?

And anyhow, this BS you peddle about shooting it down has been already debunked. No trail of missiles are seen at broad daylight before the meteor separates due to friction and stresses. So, unless it was laser, pics of missile trails or GTFO.


I guess that will explain to you the nuclear ABM capability of Russia.The same one that destroyed a meteorite having speed of 30 km/second or 108,000 km/h

lol.....


Clearly , the above evidence indicates you are delusional..why has USA aimed 48 nuclear warheads at Chekhov Underground command outpost in Moscow. Maybe you should why NATO aimed 500 nuclear warheads on Moscow in Cold war and now aims 1000 of them on Moscow.

LOL! Sources? You'll never find any because nuclear targets apart from the obvious are top top secret.

Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
Russia does follow the above doctrine pretty well.

"Yea, when others know you're weak no amount of pretending helps".
-Audio, critic of PDF
I do it well too....

Anyhow, stay off the krokodil, it's done enough damage.
 
.
Kid, allegedly doesn't count here. Solid source or GTFO.

.



LOL! 10.000? hahahahahahha, you're a joker using overblown estimates from the 80's...







Aaaa, allegedly it explains it and that isn't good enough.





LOL! Sources? You'll never find any! And still you keep yapping...



Yea, when others know you're weak no amount of pretending helps.
-Audio, critic of PDF
I do it well too....

One of the most childish responses I ever seen


russian sources like RIA Novosti and Voice of Russia are solid enough.

LOL! 10.000? hahahahahahha, you're a joker using overblown estimates from the 80's...

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...al-attacks-claims-russia-2.html#ixzz2e6G4u9dz

Got no evidence to debunk it ?How about you read the book of William T.Lee

LOL! Sources? You'll never find any! And still you keep yapping...

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...al-attacks-claims-russia-2.html#ixzz2e6GYV9xv

A bigger impediment to President Bush's dream of reducing the U.S. nuclear arsenal may be his own Pentagon. America's nuclear-force structure is like a Rubik's Cube, deceptively difficult to dismantle. That's what Dick Cheney found out in the spring of 1989, a few weeks after he had taken over as secretary of Defense for Bush's father. Cheney was given a slide show on the SIOP, 60 to 100 images laying out the sequence of strikes planned in a nuclear war. Each strike was represented by a red ***. At its cold-war height in the mid-'80s, there were 16,000 Soviet targets in the SIOP database. By 1989 the number had shrunk to 12,500. Even so, close to 500 warheads were targeted on the Moscow area alone. A single anti-missile radar at Pushkino, northeast of Moscow, was targeted with 69 warheads.
Dropping The Bomb - Newsweek and The Daily Beast

Yea, when others know you're weak no amount of pretending helps.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...al-attacks-claims-russia-2.html#ixzz2e6GYV9xv

That will be seen . Call me when Washington D.C has 12,000 underground nuclear shelters for its civilian population Each capable of holding 1000-1500 people.Call me when you have facilities like Uragan Defense,Yamantau (which is 400 sq km)
 
.
And anyhow, this BS you peddle about shooting it down has been already debunked. No trail of missiles are seen at broad daylight before the meteor separates due to friction and stresses. So, unless it was laser, pics of missile trails or GTFO.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...al-attacks-claims-russia-2.html#ixzz2e6Mqp8li

Actually , the video and the statements of the destruction of the meteor by airdefense complex commanders raised more questions.
30 Second Update - Russian Meteor Shot Down:CONFIRMED? - YouTube

One of the hypothesis is that the one of S-300 missile variants had a exotic propulsion system.Other is that the system was something from the Black ops capabilities of Russia.
Chelyabinsk is located near Chelyabinsk-70 which happens to be a nuclear weapons and advanced physics research labs and which is connected to yamantau underground city.

here's an agreement between US and Russia on limiting ABM as well as nuclear weapons

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...al-attacks-claims-russia-2.html#ixzz2e6ORebd8

Yet Russia consistently violated biological weapons treaties.... So like you expect us to respect some pathetic treaties.
 
.
One of the most childish responses I ever seen

lol, sure adolescent, why don't you play with your bombs now? In your nuclear shelter.

russian sources like RIA Novosti and Voice of Russia are solid enough.

No, because they themselves say "allegedly" implying there is no solid evidence. Logic 101 fail.
And with all the videos of that meteor, i'm sure someone would be able to film the missile streak/s.

Got no evidence to debunk it ?How about you read the book of William T.Lee

You keep reading cold war defense estimates from Americans, it's doing you lot's of good. Here's a better rundown, including Russian sources:

Russia built five launch sites around Moscow and deploys sixty-eight 53T6 interceptors in them.

A-135 Samolet (SH-08/ABM-3 Gazelle) | Missile ThreatMissile Threat

Quite a difference from tens of thousands ABM you so happily parrot isn't it?


Maybe you should why NATO aimed 500 nuclear warheads on Moscow in Cold war and now aims 1000 of them on Moscow.

Sources or GTFO. Your last attempt missed the number by around 500....the article you provide is 12 years old, lots of dismantling has been done since then.
---------------------------------------

To summarize, you're full of fail. Krokodil doesn't help.
 
.
Actually , the video and the statements of the destruction of the meteor by airdefense complex commanders raised more questions.
30 Second Update - Russian Meteor Shot Down:CONFIRMED? - YouTube

One of the hypothesis is that the one of S-300 missile variants had a exotic propulsion system.Other is that the system was something from the Black ops capabilities of Russia.
Chelyabinsk is located near Chelyabinsk-70 which happens to be a nuclear weapons and advanced physics research labs and which is connected to yamantau underground city.



Yet Russia consistently violated biological weapons treaties.... So like you expect us to respect some pathetic treaties.
Khara Sach - By Mubashir Lucman - 2nd Sep 2013 | Tune.pk
 
.
You keep reading cold war defense estimates from Americans, it's doing you lot's of good. here's a better rundown, with sources including Russian:

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...al-attacks-claims-russia-2.html#ixzz2e6QsOI3b

Actually I have read books like Sword and shield of the empire by Maxim Kalashnikov and it says that there were planes like the Mach 50 capable Ayaks meant to intercept and destroy US nuclear missiles in transit operational in early 70's

No, because they themselves say "allegedly" implying there is no solid evidence. Logic 101 fail.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...al-attacks-claims-russia-2.html#ixzz2e6R6EYti

Statements of Aerospace defense commanders are very credible for me as they were at the ground and thus primary sources. Also the half baked contradictory and regularly changing information from Russian ministry and EMERCOM indicated coverup .

lol, sure adolescent, why don't you play with your bombs now? In your nuclear shelter.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...al-attacks-claims-russia-2.html#ixzz2e6RngpAK

and there are 12000 such shelters in Moscow each capable of holding 1500 people. Call me when your nation can replicate something similiar.
Nearly 5,000 new emergency bomb shelters will be built in Moscow by 2012 to save people in case of potential attacks.

Moscow authorities say the measure is urgent as the shelters currently available in the city can house no more that half of its population.


In the last 20 years, the area of air-raid defense has been developed little, and the existing shelters have become outdated. Moreover, they are located mostly in the city center, which makes densely populated Moscow outskirts especially vulnerable in the event of a nuclear attack.

In order to resolve the issue, the city has given architects a task to construct a typical model of an easy-to-build shelter that will be located all over the city 10 to 15 meters underneath apartment blocks, shopping centers, sport complexes and parks, as in case of attack people will need to reach the shelters within a minute.

Moscow saw its first mass building of shelters in the 1930s, after which 7,000 of them were constructed. Some of Russia’s metro stations have been built very deep underground so that they could double as air raid shelters.
Moscow arms against nuclear attack ? RT News


Well lets see USA 's civilian shelter against nuclear attack:
nuclear-air-raid-drills.jpg
 
.
Actually I have read books like Sword and shield of the empire by Maxim Kalashnikov and it says that there were planes like the Mach 50 capable Ayaks meant to intercept and destroy US nuclear missiles in transit operational in early 70's

Why don't you quote me you little POS? LOL mach 50 in the 70's.
Did he mention out of what material the thing was to survive the heat of friction? Oh, wait, in CP propaganda anything is possible.

Statements of Aerospace defense commanders are very credible for me as they were at the ground and thus primary sources. Also the half baked contradictory and regularly changing information from Russian ministry and EMERCOM indicated coverup .

Ahm, that's what you wish for it to be. there's a saying, a picture is worth a thousand words, no picture of trails, no missile. Meteor disintegrated the natural way, only little kids like you salivate over fringe theories.


Find me a missile trail or GTFO

and there are 12000 such shelters in Moscow each capable of holding 1500 people. Call me when your nation can replicate something similiar.
Well lets see USA 's civilian shelter against nuclear attack:
http://undergroundbombshelter.com/images/nuclear-air-raid-drills.jpg

Who cares. Go play in one if you like them so much. Careful you don't get lost. Illiterate scum like you probably can't read very well too.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
.
Why don't you quote me you little lying POS?



Ahm, that's what you wish for it to be. there's a saying, a picture is worth a thousand words, no picture of trails, no missile. Meteor disintegrated the natural way, only little kids like you salivate over fringe theories.

watch


Find me a missile trail.




Who cares. Go play in one if you like them so much. Careful you don't get lost. Illiterate scum like you probably can't read very well too.

Ahm, that's what you wish for it to be. there's a saying, a picture is worth a thousand words, no picture of trails, no missile. Meteor disintegrated the natural way, only little kids like you salivate over fringe theories.

Look at the video carefully,You will see an object impact the meteor from the rear and emerge out of it from the front and then again turn back and blow the meteor apart.

information_items_800.jpg


You might read another interesting hypothesis by Ed Ward who seems to think it was destroyed by Gazelle, Though what my friend in MVD told me was this was intercepted by one of S-300 VM variants .
Did A Russian Nuclear Anti-Ballistic Missile Split The Chelyabinsk Meteor?
He does give good comparison with Tunguska ,but he seems to relay too much on the Gazelle missile hypothesis ,but gazelle is not ultramanuverable,S-300 and its variants are ultramanuverable.
Who cares. Go play in one if you like them so much. Careful you don't get lost. Illiterate scum like you probably can't read very well too.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...al-attacks-claims-russia-2.html#ixzz2e6WDRTvo


At least I will survive a nuclear war in one of these. You will be vaporised in the first wave of russian nukes that will impact the US mainland in about 17 minutes. Call me when your pathetic nation has 200 underground cities comparable to the one of Ramenki or 32 cities comparable to Yamantau .


??
 
.
Why don't you quote me you little lying POS?



Ahm, that's what you wish for it to be. there's a saying, a picture is worth a thousand words, no picture of trails, no missile. Meteor disintegrated the natural way, only little kids like you salivate over fringe theories.

watch


Find me a missile trail.




Who cares. Go play in one if you like them so much. Careful you don't get lost. Illiterate scum like you probably can't read very well too.

Ahm, that's what you wish for it to be. there's a saying, a picture is worth a thousand words, no picture of trails, no missile. Meteor disintegrated the natural way, only little kids like you salivate over fringe theories.

Look at the video carefully,You will see an object impact the meteor from the rear and emerge out of it from the front and then again turn back and blow the meteor apart.

information_items_800.jpg


You might read another interesting hypothesis by Ed Ward who seems to think it was destroyed by Gazelle, Though what my friend in MVD told me was this was intercepted by one of S-300 VM variants .
Did A Russian Nuclear Anti-Ballistic Missile Split The Chelyabinsk Meteor?
He does give good comparison with Tunguska ,but he seems to relay too much on the Gazelle missile hypothesis ,but gazelle is not ultramanuverable,S-300 and its variants are ultramanuverable.
Who cares. Go play in one if you like them so much. Careful you don't get lost. Illiterate scum like you probably can't read very well too.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...al-attacks-claims-russia-2.html#ixzz2e6WDRTvo


At least I will survive a nuclear war in one of these. You will be vaporised in the first wave of russian nukes that will impact the US mainland in about 17 minutes. Call me when your pathetic nation has 200 underground cities comparable to the one of Ramenki or 32 cities comparable to Yamantau .


??
 
.
Did he mention out of what material the thing was to survive the heat of friction? Oh, wait, in CP propaganda anything is possible.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...al-attacks-claims-russia-2.html#ixzz2e6bPsQf4

Considering Russians had world class material sciences and metallurgical knowledge , its good probablity. Russians were first to create carbon nanotubes in 1952 , 20 years before the west replicated such a feat.Also they were the first to build submarines with titanium and today have the deepest diving nuclear submarine losharik which can dive to depth of 6000 m(another feat no american nuclear submarine can dream of replicating.
 
.
In 1952 L. V. Radushkevich and V. M. Lukyanovich published clear images of 50 nanometer diameter tubes made of carbon in the Soviet Journal of Physical Chemistry.[78] This discovery was largely unnoticed, as the article was published in the Russian language, and Western scientists' access to Soviet press was limited during the Cold War. It is likely that carbon nanotubes were produced before this date, but the invention of the transmission electron microscope (TEM) allowed direct visualization of these structures.
Carbon nanotubes have been produced and observed under a variety of conditions prior to 1991. A paper by Oberlin, Endo, and Koyama published in 1976 clearly showed hollow carbon fibers with nanometer-scale diameters using a vapor-growth technique.[188] Additionally, the authors show a TEM image of a nanotube consisting of a single wall of graphene. Later, Endo has referred to this image as a single-walled nanotube.[189]
Carbon nanotube - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Like I said before we were world class in material sciences and the father of carbon based nanotechnology too.

and now the final masterstroke.We russians spoon feed you the most retarded nonsense that UFO shot it down ,considering that initially russian military commanders had stated that they destroyed the meteorite.

http://siberiantimes.com/weird-and-...-the-famous-chelyabinsk-meteorite-last-month/

Good cover up I must say .
 
. . .
instead of crying like children, Ruskies should go to help their lonely friend in ME

Arab Allies :usflag:

Just whose war is this?
Pat Buchanan decries notion of Americans 'hired out to do the big-time killing for royals'

Has it come to this – U.S. soldiers, sailors, Marines and airmen as the mercenaries of sheikhs, sultans and emirs, Hessians of the New World Order, hired out to do the big-time killing for Saudi and Sunni royals?


Yesterday, too, came a stunning report in the Washington Post.

The Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations has joined the Israeli lobby AIPAC in an all-out public campaign for a U.S. war on Syria

Marvin Hier of the Simon Wiesenthal Center and Abe Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League have invoked the Holocaust, with Hier charging the U.S. and Britain failed to rescue the Jews in 1942.

Yet, if memory serves, in ’42 the Brits were battling Rommel in the desert and the Americans were still collecting their dead at Pearl Harbor and dying on Bataan and Corregidor.

The Republican Jewish Coalition, too, bankrolled by Sheldon Adelson, the Macau casino mogul whose solicitude for the suffering children of Syria is the stuff of legend, is also backing Obama’s war.

Adelson, who shelled out $70 million to bring down Barack, wants his pay-off – war on Syria. And he is getting it. Speaker John Boehner and Majority Leader Eric Cantor have saluted and enlisted. Sheldon, fattest of all fat cats, is buying himself a war.

Yet, is it really wise for Jewish organizations to put a Jewish stamp on a campaign to drag America into another war that a majority of their countrymen do not want to fight?


At least now the hidden alliance between Wahhabi and Jews coming out :azn:
 
.
I like this trend in PDF; every tom, dick and harry country here thinks that Russia is a pushover except USA who is actually the only country capable of fighting against them. :lol:

Whether Saudi will be attacked or not, no one can say. But there will be some sort of retribution. Maybe a Russian invasion of a country with key US base just to make up for the loss of their own Naval base at Tartus.
 
.

Pakistan Defence Latest Posts

Country Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom