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Sartaj Aziz spoke to India’s media, our ministers made no effort
  • Karan Thapar
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  • Updated: Aug 30, 2015 01:39 IST
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A file photo of Sartaj Aziz, the key adviser on foreign policy to Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif. (AFP Photo)
I’m going to do something that could take many of you by surprise but, possibly, offend some as well. It certainly goes against the grain of the present atmosphere in the country. It’s also not what you expect of an Indian journalist when he writes about a Pakistani politician. But that said and done I can’t resist what I’m about to do. So here goes.

I’m writing to praise Pakistan’s national security advisor, former finance and foreign minister, Sartaj Aziz. He has many sterling qualities which his opponents at home or his adversaries abroad would not deny: a quiet dignity, a pleasing manner, a quick intelligence and an appearance of honesty. However, the quality that took me by surprise and is the cause of my admiration is his astute handling of the press. Our politicians could learn a lot from him.

My story begins five days before the eventually aborted recent Indo-Pakistan talks. Although we had never met nor even spoken and I was, for all intents and purposes, a complete stranger, I rang to ask for an interview. Mr Aziz readily accepted. “We’ll do it after the talks are over and before I leave. The High Commission will give you the precise time.”

The High Commission, however, never called so on Saturday, the day before his scheduled arrival, I rang Mr Aziz again. This time he chortled, as if we were old friends. “Of course, I haven’t forgotten but am I coming to India?” Then, before I could reply, he added: “Don’t worry, if I do I’ll definitely give you an interview.” I believed him. A journalist knows when a politician isn’t fibbing!

However, in the end the talks got cancelled and Mr Aziz didn’t come. So on Sunday morning I rang to ask if he would do the interview by satellite. I thought he would jump at it but this time he didn’t immediately accept. I could tell he was considering whether this would be the right thing to do. The conversation lasted 10 minutes but when he asked “What time tomorrow?” I knew he had agreed.

Mr Aziz gave me 40 minutes. He sat down in front of the camera bang on time and answered whatever questions I put to him. The tension of the preceding days didn’t affect his manner or his tone even though it was clearly discernible from his answers.

The important point I want to make is that a top Pakistani politician was willing to give interviews to the Indian media, even after the climactic denouement 48 hours earlier when the talks collapsed amidst acrimony and bitterness. Would an Indian politician have agreed to speak to the Pakistani media in similar circumstances? As far as I know, that’s never happened.

Mr Aziz defended Pakistan’s position with cogent arguments, a mastery of detail and appeals to the practice of the past or the logic of the present situation. You might not have agreed with him — and I often didn’t — but what was undeniable and, consequently, impressive is he was willing to be questioned, answered unhesitatingly and, therefore, did what democrats should do: explain, persuade, and try to convince.

A week has passed but not a single member of Mr Modi’s government has spoken to us about the collapsed talks. Our ministers have felt no need to explain, leave aside justify — and forget all about the thought of answering critics. Yet a Pakistani minister did just this.

I believe that contrast speaks for itself.
Sartaj Aziz spoke to India’s media, our ministers made no effort
 
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Actually...also feel that Nawaz Sarif is a good person along with his ministers who are really interested to build relationship with India...But unfortunately neither Pakistan Army not BJP is really interested to speak to Pakistan..And Pakistan played into the hands of both Pakistan Army and BJP when they invited Kashmir separatist people..This provided ample opportunity to BJP which is any way not much excited to talk anything with Pakistan, to postpone the meeting..I think Modi's statergy is clear...India will have foreign policy which gives economic dividends...And right now, Pakistan is not providing neither any political or economic dividend to India..So BJP will always find some excuse to not to talk with Pakistan if trade and investment related topic are not the prime topic to be discussed.
 
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Ironically, it does.

For one, Pak media has no relevance at all for India or our politicians. So even bringing up the point of no Indian politician giving interview to a Pak anchor is irrelevant. It might or might not have happened.

Second and significantly, this matter was handled well by the Indian FM. There was never any need to give media hacks such as Thapar interviews where they get to control the flow and later edit the content. The press briefing on the evening of cancellation of talks was elaborate, eloquent and entirely sufficient.

Finally, such articles belie the frustration at the utter irrelevance of such media hacks. They are used to access under Congis, now they are deprived.
 
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well this article is based on an assumption that an India minister would have never accepted an offer had he/she been approached by Pak media...this assumption may or may not be correct however at the end it is just an assumption...anyways if there is something that can be learned even from an adversary one shouldn't shy away...

@India members - there is no need to bash karan Thapar...he has a POV like rest of us...agree to disagree and move on!!
 
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Sartaj is a willy old fox. He is a seasoned diplomat. Him and his colleague Fatemi (expert in Russian Studies) have been working very hard behind the scenes to bring Pakistan closer to Russia and China. I hope his subordinates are learning well from him.
 
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Don't blame Pakistan Army, talks were supposed to happen between the two governments, our government was ready and willing, its your "hijacked by extremist Hindus" government that failed.


Actually...also feel that Nawaz Sarif is a good person along with his ministers who are really interested to build relationship with India...But unfortunately neither Pakistan Army not BJP is really interested to speak to Pakistan..And Pakistan played into the hands of both Pakistan Army and BJP when they invited Kashmir separatist people..This provided ample opportunity to BJP which is any way not much excited to talk anything with Pakistan, to postpone the meeting..I think Modi's statergy is clear...India will have foreign policy which gives economic dividends...And right now, Pakistan is not providing neither any political or economic dividend to India..So BJP will always find some excuse to not to talk with Pakistan if trade and investment related topic are not the prime topic to be discussed.
 
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Media cribbing for air time from Ministers. Case of being Butt hurt at being ignored ??

Our EAM called full 45 minutes press conference and took questions from every media segment .Whatever ! anyway media houses in particular didn't get personally invited to cover more EXCLUSIVE stories to sell. :rofl:

And guys from both sides , please stop posting new threads over recent talk failures. There has been already many. Nonsense, useless thread.

Heart of the matter is that, talks succeed when both sides are willing to make compromise ie give and take. One way selfish talks succeed only after decisive wars, where ofcourse one dictates the terms.

Here Pakistan is offering nothing to India, while at same time it wants to discuss Indian administred Kashmir, Siachin,Kutch region . It will never succeed in that fashion. No point on wasting political capital on futile events .

Only take take no give give.

India wants to link to Afghanistan via Kashmir . You fulfill our demands then we will think about that. And yes Pakistan will have to bring Gilgit on table.
 
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Written by Karan Thapar in Vinod Sharma's newspaper what do you expect ?
 
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Sartaj Aziz spoke to India’s media, our ministers made no effort
  • Karan Thapar
    |
  • Updated: Aug 30, 2015 01:39 IST
9b43aa31-82fb-481b-92a9-0ee1e89e30f9wallpaper1.jpg

A file photo of Sartaj Aziz, the key adviser on foreign policy to Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif. (AFP Photo)
I’m going to do something that could take many of you by surprise but, possibly, offend some as well. It certainly goes against the grain of the present atmosphere in the country. It’s also not what you expect of an Indian journalist when he writes about a Pakistani politician. But that said and done I can’t resist what I’m about to do. So here goes.

I’m writing to praise Pakistan’s national security advisor, former finance and foreign minister, Sartaj Aziz. He has many sterling qualities which his opponents at home or his adversaries abroad would not deny: a quiet dignity, a pleasing manner, a quick intelligence and an appearance of honesty. However, the quality that took me by surprise and is the cause of my admiration is his astute handling of the press. Our politicians could learn a lot from him.

My story begins five days before the eventually aborted recent Indo-Pakistan talks. Although we had never met nor even spoken and I was, for all intents and purposes, a complete stranger, I rang to ask for an interview. Mr Aziz readily accepted. “We’ll do it after the talks are over and before I leave. The High Commission will give you the precise time.”

The High Commission, however, never called so on Saturday, the day before his scheduled arrival, I rang Mr Aziz again. This time he chortled, as if we were old friends. “Of course, I haven’t forgotten but am I coming to India?” Then, before I could reply, he added: “Don’t worry, if I do I’ll definitely give you an interview.” I believed him. A journalist knows when a politician isn’t fibbing!

However, in the end the talks got cancelled and Mr Aziz didn’t come. So on Sunday morning I rang to ask if he would do the interview by satellite. I thought he would jump at it but this time he didn’t immediately accept. I could tell he was considering whether this would be the right thing to do. The conversation lasted 10 minutes but when he asked “What time tomorrow?” I knew he had agreed.

Mr Aziz gave me 40 minutes. He sat down in front of the camera bang on time and answered whatever questions I put to him. The tension of the preceding days didn’t affect his manner or his tone even though it was clearly discernible from his answers.

The important point I want to make is that a top Pakistani politician was willing to give interviews to the Indian media, even after the climactic denouement 48 hours earlier when the talks collapsed amidst acrimony and bitterness. Would an Indian politician have agreed to speak to the Pakistani media in similar circumstances? As far as I know, that’s never happened.

Mr Aziz defended Pakistan’s position with cogent arguments, a mastery of detail and appeals to the practice of the past or the logic of the present situation. You might not have agreed with him — and I often didn’t — but what was undeniable and, consequently, impressive is he was willing to be questioned, answered unhesitatingly and, therefore, did what democrats should do: explain, persuade, and try to convince.

A week has passed but not a single member of Mr Modi’s government has spoken to us about the collapsed talks. Our ministers have felt no need to explain, leave aside justify — and forget all about the thought of answering critics. Yet a Pakistani minister did just this.

I believe that contrast speaks for itself.
Sartaj Aziz spoke to India’s media, our ministers made no effort
MEA had done extensive PC. That was very well handled. It was one of the best PC in which the minister explained to the at most clarity what was the expectation of the meeting, what was agreed upon and where in the whole India Pak dialogue that was. NSA meeting was a stepping stone for bigger issue of mistrust on kashmir.

I dont think there was ever a need for another interviews/conference on this matter, when we know nothing concrete happened on this subject.

All these interviews are not actually interviews but grill by so called journalists (who have lost the meaning of good journalism, i.e. keep of cutting when someone speaking, keep on putting words in other mouths, keep asking same question in different form to try to get an answer which suits their pre-decided minsets), hence current band of India journalists are more dramebazz than actually journalists.
 
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well this article is based on an assumption that an India minister would have never accepted an offer had he/she been approached by Pak media...this assumption may or may not be correct however at the end it is just an assumption...anyways if there is something that can be learned even from an adversary one shouldn't shy away...

Pakistan NSA gave an interview, who did they expect to give an interview from the Indian side? Doval? That man keeps a distance from all media, imagine him talking....Sushma Swaraj was out of the country, so unless they got in Arun Jaitley or Rajnath Singh, there was no real chance. The India stance was clear & it followed from the Ufa declaration. Maybe the Pakistanis wanted to explain, GoI obviously thought the issue was self explanatory.
 
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