Sartaj Aziz shares charge sheet against Jadhav, timeline of trial

[Verve]

why two passports?

Defence personnel are highly regulated and cant travel outside of India till they get permission from Ministry Of Defence. Now if this guy saw potential of good business opportunity (if he work for a country under sanction i.e. Iran) and thought about post retirement good income, he would decide to have another passport to escape the scrutiny.

My friend in forces has been contemplating duplicate passport in a buddhist name so that he can travel with me to Thailand ...

That just shows how much loyalty as soldiers you have for your country that you'll break the law for personal gains.

Quite disgraceful really for a soldier to be making such statements.

 

[Sneaker]

100% horse manure.

The foreign secretary, Tehmina Janjua, underscored that the Pakistanis incarcerated in Indian prisons have not been provided consular access for years, despite repeated requests and follow-up by the Pakistan High Commission in New Delhi. (Source)​

Additionally,

"There has been no response from the Indian side for a letter of assistance so far, requesting specific information and access to certain key witnesses, which was shared with the government of India on January 23, 2017,” Adviser to Prime Minister on Foreign Affairs Sartaj Aziz said in a statement released by his office.

Sharing details about the arrest and trial of Kulbhushan, Sartaj Aziz said, “We condemn the baseless allegations from India, especially in the light of the fact that it was non-cooperation and lack of Indian response to Pakistan’s request for legal assistance due to which consular access has not been provided to Kulbhushan. May I mention in this context that India has not allowed consular access to many Pakistani prisoners for many years despite repeated requests.” (Source)​

The blame lies squarely on BJP, the right-wing fanatics, who failed to cooperate with Pakistan on the investigation and haven't even responded to official legal inquiries by Pakistan. All the while not providing consular access to Pakistanis trapped in India most of whom were kidnapped as with the case of Colonel (R) Habib Zahir.





Considering your broken English, the "work" you are doing in US is washing dishes and peeling potatoes. Ergo, your escape from the hellhole that is India where 70% of the population doesn't even have access to a toilet.

You could have escaped the hellhole of you knew anything but throwing a temper tantrum.. on topic, consular access isn't bound to any condition... your 30 or so poor sods jailed here for spying got it already
http://indianexpress.com/article/in...lar-access-whenever-sought-officials-4611103/

 

[Khanate]

You could have escaped the hellhole of you knew anything but throwing a temper tantrum.. on topic, consular access isn't bound to any condition... your 30 or so poor sods jailed here for spying got it already
http://indianexpress.com/article/in...lar-access-whenever-sought-officials-4611103/

100% fake news.

Pakistan High Commission in Delhi have said they have not received consular access for Pakistanis trapped in India for years despite requests and follow-ups. At least, in case of RAW spy Kulbhushan Jadhav, India was given the option to consular access if they cooperate with the investigation. Indian government under the right-wing BJP fanatics choose not to because they know that Kulbhushan Jadhav is a spy and the gig is up.

So no one believes "Indian officials" since they have lied repeatedly in the past. This was the case with Surjeet Singh who admitted to being a spy after he returned home to India.

Sources:

• Back from Pakistan, Surjeet admits he went to spy
• Surjeet Singh says he was lured into spying by a BSF inspector
• I went to Pakistan to spy, confesses Sarjeet Singh

You could have escaped the hellhole of you knew anything but throwing a temper tantrum

Clearly, I hit a nerve there. Keep peeling potatoes, princess.

 

[Sneaker]

100% fake news.

Pakistan High Commission in Delhi have said they have not received consular access for Pakistanis trapped in India for years despite requests and follow-ups. At least, in case of RAW spy Kulbhushan Jadhav, India was given the option to consular access if they cooperate with the investigation. Indian government under the right-wing BJP fanatics choose not to because they know that Kulbhushan Jadhav is a spy and the gig is up.

So no one believes "Indian officials" since they have lied repeatedly in the past. This was the case with Surjeet Singh who admitted to being a spy after he returned home to India.

Sources:

• Back from Pakistan, Surjeet admits he went to spy
• Surjeet Singh says he was lured into spying by a BSF inspector
• I went to Pakistan to spy, confesses Sarjeet Singh

Clearly, I hit a nerve there. Keep peeling potatoes, princess.

People with nerve would have given consular access.. telling lies isn't new to pakistanis, come to them naturally.. like how they were telling PA is winning till 16th dec.. sadly, lies can't change facts...

 

[paki_rambo]

People with nerve would have given consular access.. telling lies isn't new to pakistanis, come to them naturally.. like how they were telling PA is winning till 16th dec.. sadly, lies can't change facts...

In rome do as romans do. India never gave access to Pakistani investigators in kasab case so why should we give it to you. There is no agreement between both countries to give consular access .India has no reason to ask for it Pakistan has acted according to laws.Even giving Kalbushan chance to re-appeal against charges in 40 days and to apply for presidential pardon in 90 days which are according to our laws.
your monkey will have to stay with us till death or pardon without help from India

 

[Khanate]

People with nerve would have given consular access.. telling lies isn't new to pakistanis, come to them naturally.. like how they were telling PA is winning till 16th dec.. sadly, lies can't change facts...

And the fact is India has lied in the past and continues to lie under the mantra of, "Lie, lie, lie from cradle to the grave". Its the same story with "Surgical strikes" which have been debunked by international media and yet delusional Indians, like yourself, cannot grasp reality and are reduced to childish outburst on this forum. Pretty sad situation.

As for consular access, like the Prime Minister's adviser on Foreign Affairs Sartaj Aziz said, "it was non-cooperation and lack of Indian response to Pakistan’s request for legal assistance due to which consular access has not been provided to Kulbhushan".

In short, India has the option to consular access if it cooperates with the investigation but since India is lying as usual it refuses to cooperate. India under the right-wing BJP would rather have a serving officer of RAW be hanged to death than cooperate and work out a deal. The message from Indian government is clear, i.e., as an Indian your life is worthless to your government.

 

[Sneaker]

In rome do as romans do. India never gave access to Pakistani investigators in kasab case so why should we give it to you. There is no agreement between both countries to give consular access .India has no reason to ask for it Pakistan has acted according to laws.Even giving Kalbushan chance to re-appeal against charges in 40 days and to apply for presidential pardon in 90 days which are according to our laws.
your monkey will have to stay with us till death or pardon without help from India

Investigators aren't consuls..

And the fact is India has lied in the past and continues to lie under the mantra of, "Lie, lie, lie from cradle to the grave". Its the same story with "Surgical strikes" which have been debunked by international media and yet delusional Indians, like yourself, cannot grasp reality and are reduced to childish outburst on this forum. Pretty sad situation.

As for consular access, like the Prime Minister's adviser on Foreign Affairs Sartaj Aziz said, "it was non-cooperation and lack of Indian response to Pakistan’s request for legal assistance due to which consular access has not been provided to Kulbhushan".

In short, India has the option to consular access if it cooperates with the investigation but since India is lying as usual it refuses to cooperate. India under the right-wing BJP would rather have a serving officer of RAW be hanged to death than cooperate and work out a deal. The message from Indian government is clear, i.e., as an Indian your life is worthless to your government.

Consular access must not come with any is and buts.. we aren't giving any leniency to pak on that.. you must give consular access per international law or expect same return in kind..

 

[Khanate]

Consular access must not come with any is and buts.. we aren't giving any leniency to pak on that..

Delusional.

Even when you know the facts in this case and the disturbing truth that Indian government led by right-wing BJP fanatics opted to have a serving RAW officer hanged to death than work out a deal, you are choosing to ignore reality. I guess Kulbhushan Jadhav's life is worthless to you and the Indian government. What a pity.

you must give consular access per international law or expect same return in kind..

India is in no position to demand consular access when Pakistan High Commission in Delhi hasn't received consular access to Pakistanis wrongfully trapped in India. At least, Pakistan gave India an option but Indian government prefer to see Kulbhushan Jadhav hanged and so he will be.

 

[darksider]

Why would RAW sent someone with 2 Indian passports?????

Sartaj Aziz asks Why he has 2 passports..... My immediate neighbour had 2 passports.... and he may not even what RAW is all about.....

Having two valid passports for one person allow in india?

 

[paki_rambo]

Consular access must not come with any is and buts.. we aren't giving any leniency to pak on that.. you must give consular access per international law or expect same return in kind..

the things is we wont no matter how much noise Indians make.
If you dont like it ask human rights,UN and other countries to intervene.

Investigators aren't consuls..

investigator team consisted of judicial commission.
http://nation.com.pk/international/23-Jan-2012/pakistan-wont-get-access-to-ajmal-kasab
India used the same logic at that time that there is no MOU between two countries that Pakistan is using now

 

[Sneaker]

the things is we wont no matter how much noise Indians make.
If you dont like it ask human rights,UN and other countries to intervene.


investigator team consisted of judicial commission.
http://nation.com.pk/international/23-Jan-2012/pakistan-wont-get-access-to-ajmal-kasab
India used the same logic at that time that there is no MOU between two countries that Pakistan is using now

Let me see how many time one needs to repeat before you can understand.. investigators are not consuls...

 

[paki_rambo]

Let me see how many time one needs to repeat before you can understand.. investigators are not consuls...

ok stick to it but still it gives no reason to give counselor access
you can beat drums in name of human rights in front of other countries and UN lets see what happens and how many condemn this action of GOP

 

[Sneaker]

ok stick to it but still it gives no reason to give counselor access
you can beat drums in name of human rights in front of other countries and UN lets see what happens and how many condemn this action of GOP

Reason to give consular access is international law... we will not.go to UN like pak goes running... we will break international laws where it will hurt pak the most..

 

[paki_rambo]

Reason to give consular access is international law... we will not.go to UN like pak goes running... we will break international laws where it will hurt pak the most..

you may do as you like and Pakistan will retaliate no law protects rights of individuals booked under terrorism charges

 

[Hammad Arshad Qureshi]

Reason to give consular access is international law... we will not.go to UN like pak goes running... we will break international laws where it will hurt pak the most..

Lol dude go ahead and try to get your monkey out if you can