Sangita finds out that she isn't British after all

[Dalit]

And what if Sadiq Khan would have been chosen and they'd been railing against him ? What if Sadiq hallaled a goat as opposed to sunak and his cow thing.

"They didn't choose Brexit to get a Pakistani PM elected" - would these have still been your words, more importantly, would you have still been as upset at seeing a muslim Pakistani get that position ?

I'm pretty clear here, Sunak boy has nothing to do with India apart from ancestrally, no different from Kamala across the pond from there.

Honestly, have very little interest in UK politics even.. hamay kya lena dena ?

What if... Sadiq Khan has also been on the receiving end of white British nationalists. You know this already so no need to pretend. Can you imagine what racist shit Sadiq Khan or any Pakistani origin PM of Britain would receive if he ever became a leader of this country? It would make Obama look like a joke.

LOL For someone who apparently has no interest in UK politics you sure as hell are fired up and participating like a mad man.

 

[-=virus=-]

Oh yeah. Tell me the name of last muslim prime-minister of India? Or may be muslim chief of army staff of india?
In Pakistan its anyway constitutional. In India however, its anyway unconstitutional.

Unlike Pakistan, here in India, there isn't a provision in the constitution that expressly forbids/prohibits that type of thing. We've had Muslim heads of state, a PM is technically not head of state. I'm too tired to give you a civics lesson on Indian politics but.. do some homework yourself, son.

Zakir Husain - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Hamid_Ansari (VP)

A. P. J. Abdul Kalam - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And I dont want to know what you think about it.

too bad, you've been quoted and told what I think about it already.. haha

 

[Dalit]

Unlike Pakistan, here in India, there isn't a provision in the constitution that expressly forbids/prohibits that type of thing. We've had Muslim heads of state, a PM is technically not head of state. I'm too tired to give you a civics lesson on Indian politics but.. do some homework yourself, son.

Zakir Husain - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Hamid_Ansari (VP)

A. P. J. Abdul Kalam - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

too bad, you've been quoted and told what I think about it already.. haha

Puttar, what do you make of the white caller saying that Rishi boy isn't British and therefore doesn't have the right to be a British PM? Don't give me lectures on Pakistan and India. Just give me an answer to the question.

 

[-=virus=-]

What if... Sadiq Khan has also been on the receiving end of white British nationalists. You know this already so no need to pretend. Can you imagine what racist shit Sadiq Khan or any Pakistani origin PM of Britain would receive if he ever became a leader of this country? It would make Obama look like a joke.

LOL For someone who apparently has no interest in UK politics you sure as hell are fired up and participating like a mad man.

Should rephrase maybe.. I have little personal invested in UK politics, but I've been keeping up with bits of it, spl given all the fireworks around this latest twist in their game of musical chairs.. they're very unstable politically, banana republic like, almost. lol

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

There are no white people living in India/Pak/SL. Your example doesn't hold.

I was born in a white country. I didn't come here as a refugee or an immigrant. I don't have an axe to grind with white people. I live among white people. I work with white people. I eat and drink with white people. I also speak my mind and tell white people how I think. You can generalize that I despise white people, but I don't. I simply point out the historical facts without being an Uncle Tom.

The problem with desis like you is that you are subservient to white men. You were born and bred in a system that was left behind by the white colonial powers. You probably to belong to the powerful brahmin caste that benefits from the white colonial rule in your country. You don't have the ability to criticise white atrocities even against your own country because you were programmed to worship them. Indians are renowned for licking white man's boots for a reason. Especially the Brits. Would you bracket Trevor Noah also as a person who has an axe to grind with white people? After all, he is critical of white racist policies.

Now coming back to the topic, how does it feel that Sangita is being reminded that she isn't British? Remain on topic and tell me if you agree with the white caller. Does Rishi Sunak deserve to be the leader of Britain?

Have you even bothered listening to the white caller decimating Rishi? Sangita claims that the white caller is racist and xenophobic LOL

It is funny though how the Indians react so emotionally charged when reminded that they don't belong to the fold. Just look at brahmin virus...

You are racist yourself. One hand you say Sangita being Indian is subservient to white people and you also say she accused the white caller of being racist and xenophobic. This is a case of, 'Damn you if you do, and Damn you if you don't'. I see this very commonly here and it's not just against Indian Hindus. You would be stereotyping the host if she was Indian Muslim. People see through your hypocrisy. You can live, eat, work among White people, and even criticize them? My respect for White people increased. Try that in an Arab country. There is an old video of a Bangladeshi driver in Saudi Arabia being violently slapped and spat at by a Saudi for saying Saudi Arabia is subservient to America. And is Pakistan discrimination free? Imran Khan could not appoint a Pakistani Ahmedi to an economic advisory position. In Afghanistan, Pashtun, Tajik, Uzbek, Hazara, have been blowing each other up for decades.

 

[-=virus=-]

Puttar, what do you make of the white caller saying that Rishi boy isn't British and therefore doesn't have the right to be a British PM? Don't give me lectures on Pakistan and India. Just give me an answer to the question.

Easy, she's being racist and horribly mean and ethnonationalist about it.. what a terrible thing to say.

You , like a few others here, remind me a quite a bit of jamahir, the starving communist from India who used to be on these forums... (hint: that is not a compliment by any stretch)

 

[Dalit]

You are racist yourself. One one hand you say Sangita being Indian is subservient to white people and you also say she accused the white caller of being racist and xenophobic. This is a case of 'Damn you if you do, and Damn you if you don't'. I see this very commonly here and it's not just against Indian Hindus. You would be stereotyping the host if she was Indian Muslim. People see through your hypocrisy. You can live, eat, work among White people, and even criticize them? My respect for White people increased. Try that in an Arab country. There is an old video of a Bangladeshi driver in Saudi Arabia being violently slapped and spat at by a Saudi for saying Saudi Arabia is subservient to America. Is Pakistan discrimination free? Imran Khan could not even appoint a Pakistani Ahmedi to an economic advisory position. And in Afghanistan, Pashtuns, Tajiks, Uzbeks, Hazara, have been blowing each other up for decades.

Nice to see you go off like a headless chicken. I really did hit a nerve, didn't I? Your white brothers in Britain don't even want an Indian PM. Sangita really got emotional when the white British caller said it how it is. Indians aren't British just like a dog is not a chicken.

Easy, she's being racist and horribly mean and ethnonationalist about it.. what a terrible thing to say.

You , like a few others here, remind me a quite a bit of jamahir, the starving communist from India who used to be on these forums... (hint: that is not a compliment by any stretch)

Your imagination is very wild and vivid, but that doesn't surprise me one tiny bit.

The white caller wasn't racist. He simply said what was on his mind and frankly the majority of the Brits hold similar sentiments.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Unlike Pakistan, here in India, there isn't a provision in the constitution that expressly forbids/prohibits that type of thing. We've had Muslim heads of state, a PM is technically not head of state. I'm too tired to give you a civics lesson on Indian politics but.. do some homework yourself, son.

Zakir Husain - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Hamid_Ansari (VP)

A. P. J. Abdul Kalam - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

too bad, you've been quoted and told what I think about it already.. haha

Pakistani constitution makes it clear. Your constitution however keeps it as vague as possible. I mean, is anything about India certain? And if you ask honestly, I will say indian hindus even dont want Hindu Rashtra, because majority of Hindus know very well how it will eventually get realized for them.

 

[Menace2Society]

The UK should have a white PM, its only fair that a small community like the anglos are able to represent themselves.

 

[mangochutney]

he has Pakistani blood running through his veins does OUR lad Rishi ..

Leave him alone
Vote Labour

 

[letsrock]

I didn't say anything about Sunak holding office. I said that Sangita is crying because she is suddenly the target of British racists on live radio. Also, let's get one thing straight. The same P-a-k-i bashing Brits are now targeting the Indians. There is always a redline when it comes to the white man. Apparently the Indians crossed this line when Rishi boy became the PM of the UK. Just ask Obama when he became the president of good ol' USA.

The brits always bashed indians too. But many lack the sense of self dignity to protest it. Once they are given some position or some fish or loave - everything is forgotten. But they are not so forgiving of muslims or other castes though.

 

[Paitoo]

It is easy to mix up issues in conversations like these. In my opinion (which may be totally unacceptable to many), exclusionist behaviour is not necessarily racist, even if it is undesirable. It is possible that you find a person of another community extremely competent and qualified for a certain job, but you still want someone from your own community to get it. It's not because you feel the other person is inferior, just that you feel that some things should "remain in the family". It is for this reason that many large businesses continue to appoint heads from within the family, despite being publicly traded and diverse otherwise. It may not be rational behaviour, but it is also not necessarily racist.

When extrapolated to public governance, it is not that straightforward, because a PM is a PM for the entire country, not just for specific groups. If white people wish to foist an incompetent leader on a country, simply because he/she is white, I don't see why other ethnicities should find that acceptable. Saying that someone is not British and thus doesn't deserve to be PM is just an emotional reaction, targeted at the symptom. The root issue is that Britain has too many minorities. How much can these exclusionists do, if the electoral process is non-emotional and thus cannot exclude the minorities? Perhaps they realise their helplessness, and therefore are resorting to emotional reactions, calling out people as outsiders and therefore non-deserving. The democratic nation as a legal and political entity is the sum total of its parts, which has no role for notions such as 'I came here first' or 'we used to be the majority' or 'it is white people who built this country' or 'your people came here to enjoy the riches' etc. These notions cannot stand in the face of numbers.

This is not exclusive to Britain or the white world. I cannot see any linguistic state in India having a Chief Minister who is not son of the soil. Tribal tendencies are the most basic of societal tendencies. They may become dormant in face of changing realities, but will never go away.

 

[letsrock]

It is easy to mix up issues in conversations like these. In my opinion (which may be totally unacceptable to many), exclusionist behaviour is not necessarily racist, even if it is undesirable. It is possible that you find a person of another community extremely competent and qualified for a certain job, but you still want someone from your own community to get it. It's not because you feel the other person is inferior, just that you feel that some things should "remain in the family". It is for this reason that many large businesses continue to appoint heads from within the family, despite being publicly traded and diverse otherwise. It may not be rational behaviour, but it is also not necessarily racist.

When extrapolated to public governance, it is not that straightforward, because a PM is a PM for the entire country, not just for specific groups. If white people wish to foist an incompetent leader on a country, simply because he/she is white, I don't see why other ethnicities should find that acceptable. Saying that someone is not British and thus doesn't deserve to be PM is just an emotional reaction, targeted at the symptom. The root issue is that Britain has too many minorities. How much can these exclusionists do, if the electoral process is non-emotional and thus cannot exclude the minorities? Perhaps they realise their helplessness, and therefore are resorting to emotional reactions, calling out people as outsiders and therefore non-deserving. The democratic nation as a legal and political entity is the sum total of its parts, which has no role for notions such as 'I came here first' or 'we used to be the majority' or 'it is white people who built this country' or 'your people came here to enjoy the riches' etc. These notions cannot stand in the face of numbers.

This is not exclusive to Britain or the white world. I cannot see any linguistic state in India having a Chief Minister who is not son of the soil. Tribal tendencies are the most basic of societal tendencies. They may become dormant in face of changing realities, but will never go away.

LOL - what a rambling consfusing post. So "selecting ones own " is not racist when done in a public traded company but racist when done for PM. Sunak was elected - not by "too many minorities" - but merely 100 plus mostly white MPs.

Actually he was defeated just two months back when he stood against Liz truss electorally by party cader.

 

[Paitoo]

LOL - what a rambling consfusing post. So "selecting ones own " is not racist when done in a public traded company but racist when done for PM. Sunak was elected - not by "too many minorities" - but merely 100 plus mostly white MPs.

Actually he was defeated just two months back when he stood against Liz truss electorally by party cader.

I would suggest you read a post carefully before hitting the reply button.

And I do not personally care about Sunak or his credentials. He is not my PM.

 

[mangochutney]

Chill out guys , you’re all too serious
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