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Salah Abdeslam is refusing to co-operate with the court

The sole surviving suspect from the 2015 Paris terror attacks refused to speak any further in a Belgian court, where his trial over the gunfight that led to his arrest began on Monday.

Salah Abdeslam said he would not respond to questions from the judge.

"My silence does not make me a criminal, it's my defence," he said.

Abdeslam, 28, claimed that Muslims were "judged and treated in the worst of ways, mercilessly", and said he was placing his trust in Allah.

"I am not afraid of you, I am not afraid of your allies," he added, without making clear who he meant.

He urged the prosecution to base its case on "forensic and tangible evidence", and not to "swagger about to satisfy public opinion".

The trial in Brussels was adjourned until Thursday.

Abdeslam has refused to speak to investigators since his initial interrogation in March 2016.

What is Abdeslam accused of?

French prosecutors believe Abdeslam played a key role in the Paris attacks, in which gunmen and suicide bombers targeted a concert hall, stadium, restaurants and bars, killing 130 people and injuring hundreds more.

He became Europe's most wanted man after the mass killings, and was captured in Brussels four months later.

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The defendant's brother, Brahim, was among the Paris attackers and died in a suicide blast outside a cafe.

Abdeslam is not expected to go on trial in France until 2019 at the earliest.

The charges he faces in Brussels are not related to events in Paris, but to a shootout with police while he was on the run in Belgium.

Abdeslam and his suspected accomplice Sofien Ayari, 24, are accused of possessing illegal weapons and the attempted murder of police officers in a terrorist context.

The men allegedly fought a gun battle with officers who raided the flat where they were holed up, in the Molenbeek district of Brussels.

The Belgian prosecutor, Kathleen Grosjean, said she was seeking the maximum of 20 years' imprisonment for each of them.

n court on Monday, Ayari said he had fought for the jihadist group Islamic State (IS) in Syria, and that both he and Abdeslam were present during the standoff.

The prosecutor has said she does not believe Abdeslam actually fired any weapons.

She explained that two Kalashnikovs had been used during the clash. The first shooter is known to be Algerian national Mohamed Belkaid, who was subsequently shot by special police. The prosecution believes the second shooter is Ayari due to DNA found on the weapon.

However, this would not affect Abdeslam's potential sentence, due to the "indispensable aid" he allegedly gave Ayari and Belkaid.

Who gets Abdeslam, France or Belgium?

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Abdeslam is being transported between a French prison and a Belgian court for this trial

Abdeslam, a French citizen born to Moroccan parents in Brussels, has been held at a prison near Paris. He left the facility under armed guard in the early hours of Monday, accompanied by tactical police vehicles.

He will return to France every night during the trial, but will be held at another jail just across the border.

Up to 200 police will be guarding the courthouse for the trial.

Is his silence a major obstacle?

The right to silence is protected by the European Convention on Human Rights, but it is not an absolute right.

European human rights law says a defendant's decision to remain silent can be taken into account when assessing the prosecution's evidence. That is especially so "in situations which clearly call for an explanation from him [the defendant]".

Observers say that given other suspects have spoken and co-operated with the police, Abdeslam's silence won't necessarily hurt the prosecution's case.

But if he remains silent on the Paris attacks too, it would "be horrible for the victims' families", said Guy Van Vlierden, a Belgian journalist specialising in security and terrorism issues.

source bbc.com

@Cell_DbZ
 
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No one pays attention to thier own racism againt muslims that pushes one to become extreme minded. So we get a vicious cycle.
 
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Let's just cut him in half!
How about that @Vergennes ?

It was abosulte no surprise that he was going to act like that, blaming 'racism' was also the expected excuse, of course he didn't mention his own failure to assimilate, his failure as a person and failure of his weak mind.

I understand that racism is a problem, but no amount of rascism justifies killing innocent people who were most likely not racist.

Sadly, racism not the only problem, failure of assimilation, having the general disrespect for your surroundings, your own discrimination and coming from countries thar are often opressive or even war torn all go hand in hand....

Sad world we live in.
 
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Let's just cut him in half!
How about that @Vergennes ?

It was abosulte no surprise that he was going to act like that, blaming 'racism' was also the expected excuse, of course he didn't mention his own failure to assimilate, his failure as a person and failure of his weak mind.

I understand that racism is a problem, but no amount of rascism justifies killing innocent people who were most likely not racist.

Sadly, racism not the only problem, failure of assimilation, having the general disrespect for your surroundings, your own discrimination and coming from countries thar are opressive or even war torn all go hand in hand....

Sad world we live in.


Why not expel all Muslims? Problem solved, and you no longer have to force people to assimilate.
 
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Why not expel all Muslims? Problem solved, and you no longer have to force people to assimilate.
Because plenty muslims are in fact assimilated (that does not mean giving up their religion), they are equally big contributors to society (working, paying taxes). I don't care if you're muslim or not, just try to be a decent person, if so, your just as much worth as any other person.

Kicking 'all muslims' out with force is going to harm us and more importantly, it is absolutely unfair for those people, they absolutely don't deserve that.
 
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Because plenty muslims are in fact assimilated (that does not mean giving up their religion), they are equally big contributors to society (working, paying taxes). I don't care if you're muslim or not, just try to be a decent person, if so, your just as much worth as any other person.

Kicking 'all muslims' out with force is going to harm us and more importantly, it is absolutely unfair for those people, they absolutely don't deserve that.


Spare us this liberal cuck rubbish. They are a burden, this and nothing more. Most live on welfare and are incapable to benefit economy in any way.

As for this piece of crap there. Why they give him a stage in court is beyond me. But what should one expect from a non country like Belgium.
 
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Let's just cut him in half!
How about that @Vergennes ?

I would like him to receive a bullet straight in his head or to be hanged. However,that is too nice and quick. I want him to be isolated at perpetuity under 24 hour CCTV surveillance. Him to become even crazier and die in prison behind four walls.

With the charges he is facing in France,he'll never see the sunlight again. His 'trial' should take place in 2019 or 2020.
 
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Salah Abdeslam is refusing to co-operate with the court

The sole surviving suspect from the 2015 Paris terror attacks refused to speak any further in a Belgian court, where his trial over the gunfight that led to his arrest began on Monday.

Salah Abdeslam said he would not respond to questions from the judge.

"My silence does not make me a criminal, it's my defence," he said.

Abdeslam, 28, claimed that Muslims were "judged and treated in the worst of ways, mercilessly", and said he was placing his trust in Allah.

"I am not afraid of you, I am not afraid of your allies," he added, without making clear who he meant.

He urged the prosecution to base its case on "forensic and tangible evidence", and not to "swagger about to satisfy public opinion".

The trial in Brussels was adjourned until Thursday.

Abdeslam has refused to speak to investigators since his initial interrogation in March 2016.

What is Abdeslam accused of?

French prosecutors believe Abdeslam played a key role in the Paris attacks, in which gunmen and suicide bombers targeted a concert hall, stadium, restaurants and bars, killing 130 people and injuring hundreds more.

He became Europe's most wanted man after the mass killings, and was captured in Brussels four months later.

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The defendant's brother, Brahim, was among the Paris attackers and died in a suicide blast outside a cafe.

Abdeslam is not expected to go on trial in France until 2019 at the earliest.

The charges he faces in Brussels are not related to events in Paris, but to a shootout with police while he was on the run in Belgium.

Abdeslam and his suspected accomplice Sofien Ayari, 24, are accused of possessing illegal weapons and the attempted murder of police officers in a terrorist context.

The men allegedly fought a gun battle with officers who raided the flat where they were holed up, in the Molenbeek district of Brussels.

The Belgian prosecutor, Kathleen Grosjean, said she was seeking the maximum of 20 years' imprisonment for each of them.

n court on Monday, Ayari said he had fought for the jihadist group Islamic State (IS) in Syria, and that both he and Abdeslam were present during the standoff.

The prosecutor has said she does not believe Abdeslam actually fired any weapons.

She explained that two Kalashnikovs had been used during the clash. The first shooter is known to be Algerian national Mohamed Belkaid, who was subsequently shot by special police. The prosecution believes the second shooter is Ayari due to DNA found on the weapon.

However, this would not affect Abdeslam's potential sentence, due to the "indispensable aid" he allegedly gave Ayari and Belkaid.

Who gets Abdeslam, France or Belgium?

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Abdeslam is being transported between a French prison and a Belgian court for this trial

Abdeslam, a French citizen born to Moroccan parents in Brussels, has been held at a prison near Paris. He left the facility under armed guard in the early hours of Monday, accompanied by tactical police vehicles.

He will return to France every night during the trial, but will be held at another jail just across the border.

Up to 200 police will be guarding the courthouse for the trial.

Is his silence a major obstacle?

The right to silence is protected by the European Convention on Human Rights, but it is not an absolute right.

European human rights law says a defendant's decision to remain silent can be taken into account when assessing the prosecution's evidence. That is especially so "in situations which clearly call for an explanation from him [the defendant]".

Observers say that given other suspects have spoken and co-operated with the police, Abdeslam's silence won't necessarily hurt the prosecution's case.

But if he remains silent on the Paris attacks too, it would "be horrible for the victims' families", said Guy Van Vlierden, a Belgian journalist specialising in security and terrorism issues.

source bbc.com

@Cell_DbZ
A tough nut he is harsh measures he requires i am sure sleep deprivations and few drugs can cure him :D

Because plenty muslims are in fact assimilated (that does not mean giving up their religion), they are equally big contributors to society (working, paying taxes). I don't care if you're muslim or not, just try to be a decent person, if so, your just as much worth as any other person.

Kicking 'all muslims' out with force is going to harm us and more importantly, it is absolutely unfair for those people, they absolutely don't deserve that.
An honest conversation needs to start on ghetto isolation culture if we wish to address this problem
 
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Spare us this liberal cuck rubbish. They are a burden, this and nothing more. Most live on welfare and are incapable to benefit economy in any way.
Don't get me wrong buddy, plenty are indeed in welfare and are a burden, more so than most other ethnicities. I also hate the pc'ness about it all. A problem that needs to be adressed asap. I think that Belgians on welfare also need a good but kicking, there are also a good number of them (they happen to vote fot the scialists way too often).

I still stand by what I said; there are many who are good enough, they pay their taxes and respect the law. If you think that they also need to be cleansed; then you're not much better than the supreme socialist himself; Hitler.

I would like him to receive a bullet straight in his head or to be hanged. However,that is too nice and quick. I want him to be isolated at perpetuity under 24 hour CCTV surveillance. Him to become even crazier and die in prison behind four walls.
I would 'torture' him with small thing; feeding him pork; letting him see videos ISIS and the 'peaceful rebels' like Al Nursa getting bombed constantly. :sarcastic:
 
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Let's just cut him in half!

Going back to the 5th century already? Doesn't take much for you to start acting like a bunch of animals wanting to slaughter everyone.

t was abosulte no surprise that he was going to act like that, blaming 'racism' was also the expected excuse, of course he didn't mention his own failure to assimilate, his failure as a person and failure of his weak mind.

Or he actually didn't take part and was unfairly put on trial... ever heard of innocent until proven guilty. Wouldn't be the first time Europeans locked up a Muslim for something he never did.
 
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Anti Muslim bias? Maybe. But they sure as hell are giving him more of a chance to defend himself than his ISIS buddies who would have tortured and beheaded him by now. These terrorist scums kill innocent people and claim to be victims at the same time. Absolute scum.

As for those who are saying he is completely innocent and just arrested for "Anti Muslims bias", read this:

http://www.lepoint.fr/societe/salah...a-premiere-audition-25-03-2016-2027917_23.php
 
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Going back to the 5th century already?
Are you aware that I and @Vergennes were joking? But even if we weren't, our fellow countrymen got slaughtered by that pig, so an emotional reaction is expected. I even used that 'sarcastic laugh' in one of my posts, how did you miss that?

Or he actually didn't take part and was unfairly put on trial... ever heard of innocent until proven guilty.
Lol, p1ss off, plenty of evidence that did in take part in those terror attacks.

- He had known contacts with ISIS even before the terror attacks
http://deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws.english/News/1.2581476
- He bought detonators, batteries and peroxide, I guess he was organizing a birthday party.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...alah-abdeslam-was-supposed-to-blow-himself-up
-He assisted his terror friends heavily by hiring cars, flats,... Thus he was seen with individuals who later blew themselves up/shot at people in the terror attacks in Paris.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35286647
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/17/world/paris-attacks

If your terror friend had been innocent like you seem to think he is, then why did he run away for months from the police? Hiding in compounds shared by other terrorists?
If he was really innocent, then he should have turned himself in to the police, I guess they would have locked him up 'just because he was a a Muslim', right?

Actually, he just didn't hide, he actively restisted arrest as he and his buddies were opening fire at the police (4 police officers got injured at the raids against Abdeslam), also weapons were found in the flat where Abdesalm was hiding.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/17/world/europe/belgium-terrorism-suspect.html
I'm pretty sure that an innocent person wouldn't do such things, unless fighting Islamophobia of course.

It also doesn't help his case that his own brother blew himself up in the terror attacks in Paris.


Quite sad that I have to prove his involvement in the terror attacks in Paris, his plans for terror attacks in Brussels and his shooting participation against the Belgian police.

I am no longer going to waste my time on you, you're now on my ignore list.
 
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@Cell_DbZ

Actually,as previously thought,Abdeslam didn't 'abort' his 'mission' and changed his mind at the last minute,but it was revealed few days ago that he well planned to "die in martyr",but his explosive belt was faulty.

Salah Abdeslam voulait mourir en martyr mais sa ceinture explosive était défectueuse

https://www.lopinion.fr/edition/pol...rir-en-martyr-ceinture-explosive-etait-142263

Meanwhile,when people have no shame at all ---->

Lawyer for Paris attacks suspect seeks case dismissal over language error

http://www.france24.com/en/20180208...spect-abdeslam-seeks-dismissal-language-error
 
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