Sahiwal Coal Power Project set to become first CPEC project to be completed

[Gentelman]

did you knew anything about Kanupp and problems he faces? Old nuclear Plant near Karachi?
You seriously under estimate Pakistanis

do you have any idea about the management of KANUPP?? Kindly search and let me know if its under looney tunes of WAPDA or Pakistan Atomic Energy comission...

 

[BRAVO_]

Are you sure you know what you are talking about? I don't think so, allow me to butcher your biased views with facts
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it will b good next time if you will come up with proper authentic link rather than trolling.

truth is since Nawaz Sharif came to office in 2013 his government announced a string of big ticket power plants that have failed to live up to their fanfare billing.

A 6000 megawatt MW coal powered park has been quietly put on the back burner A planned 1000 MW solar park only has an installed capacity of 100 MW so far and the Nandipur plant of 425 MW closed days after the prime minister inaugurated it over management and pricing disputes (which is by the way turning out to be the most expensive plant by production)

Werner Liepach Pakistan head of the Asian Development Bank which is the biggest external investor in Pakistans power sector he openly said already that"They kept hyping generation too much creating unrealistic deadlines that end in disappointment,"

until following problems will not be taken care this issue will never ever be fixed coz frankly its not about production only its about how to manage the production.

1 Cash flow problems are created in the supply chain because of circular debt and mismanagement of govt departments.
2 Because of lack of investment old transmission network suffers severely resulting line loses.
3 No public investment in the thermal power has encouraged as the sector was to be privatized as a result power plants in public sector are producing far less power than their actual capacity.
4 Power theft and under recovery of bills has crossed the value of Rs.260 billion to the power sector and is further discourages investment in the sector.
5 In the winter season when the country faces extreme shortage of gas government normally cuts down the gas supply to power sector in order to meet the demand of domestic users and selected fertilizer companies which causes a loss of USD 400 million to the power sector and causes shortage of energy generation as well.

now if you have any better idea do share it with people that without addressing the above issues how some one will fix the energy shortages.i think you are really not aware yet with the current installed capacity of Pakistan which is 22,797 MW but production stands at a dismal 12,000 MW.

 

[Viper0011.]

it will b good next time if you will come up with proper authentic link rather than trolling.

truth is since Nawaz Sharif came to office in 2013 his government announced a string of big ticket power plants that have failed to live up to their fanfare billing.

A 6000 megawatt MW coal powered park has been quietly put on the back burner A planned 1000 MW solar park only has an installed capacity of 100 MW so far and the Nandipur plant of 425 MW closed days after the prime minister inaugurated it over management and pricing disputes (which is by the way turning out to be the most expensive plant by production)
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WOW, WOW, WOW......you are HIGHLY misguided. This ain't ARY where you can blabber all you want and your viewers are lacking common sense to not realize the truth from bullshiit.

On this VERY thread, there have been ALL the details posted. The Solar AND Nandipur are both "OVER" producing.

On Nandipur, its took more money. But, it can NEVER be the most expensive plant lol . Its a tiny, mini power plant. Every been to Tarbela? I've been to it when we were doing a project with a German company (Tarbela turbines are German made). I've been down the Turbines where the Turbine blades run and create power, LITERALLY about 30 feet above the fierce moving water of Indus, that scares the living shiit out of you if you saw those massive blades, the water pressure and what the scary noise of the generators!! ALL Turbines combined from Nandipur, don't make up even ONE of Tarbela's Turbine in terms of size, power and the volume!!!!

The Nandipur project didn't just "become" more expensive because NS took the money on the back seat of his PM car and deposited it into his bank account, it became so expensive because the previous government let such expensive and critical machinery sit for years in a damped, humid environment that would rotten a LOT of metals. So how do you know that a manufactured Fridgeraor has a broken pipe that goes from the inside of the Fridge's body to its top Freezer? There is no way, UNTIL you run it a few times and the problem comes out.

And when the problem came out, the engineers from Tarbela told the government that they've managed such complex operation, fixing this, would be a peace of cake (mind you, this is Chinese tech, and these smart as* engineers have worked on the German and Canadian tech all their life!!). So now, the previous time and money is being wasted.

When the authorities contacted the Chinese, the machines were out of the manufacturers three year warranty!!!! Guess what? These machines cost hundreds of millions of dollars. So either way you look at it, the money HAD to be spent. It didn't go to NS as a GIFT, like "someone" from a Land Mafia decided to give IK a BILLION worth home as a "GIFT"

Since the Nandipur deal, the government has put a stipulation in ALL Chinese contracts (talk about being fair to the country), that every Chinese project, will require the Chinese to train Pakistani engineers IN CHINA and ON real projects. Not just give them books and show them youtube videos of their stuff, but allow them internship into working projects with the SAME tech, so they have the architectural and troubleshooting knowledge when they come back after a year worth of experience. That is how you do it

@cb4 : I think you posted those pictures showing Nandi Pur power plant working above capacity. Will you help the member above get a real feel of the reality than what he learns from ARY and other IK paid propaganda channels please? Thank you!

 

[BRAVO_]

WOW, WOW, WOW......you are HIGHLY misguided. This ain't ARY where you can blabber all you want and your viewers are lacking common sense to not realize the truth from bullshiit.

On this VERY thread, there have been ALL the details posted. The Solar AND Nandipur are both "OVER" producing.

On Nandipur, its took more money. But, it can NEVER be the most expensive plant lol . Its a tiny, mini power plant. Every been to Tarbela? I've been to it when we were doing a project with a German company (Tarbela turbines are German made). I've been down the Turbines where the Turbine blades run and create power, LITERALLY about 30 feet above the fierce moving water of Indus, that scares the living shiit out of you if you saw those massive blades, the water pressure and what the scary noise of the generators!! ALL Turbines combined from Nandipur, don't make up even ONE of Tarbela's Turbine in terms of size, power and the volume!!!!

The Nandipur project didn't just "become" more expensive because NS took the money on the back seat of his PM car and deposited it into his bank account, it became so expensive because the previous government let such expensive and critical machinery sit for years in a damped, humid environment that would rotten a LOT of metals. So how do you know that a manufactured Fridgeraor has a broken pipe that goes from the inside of the Fridge's body to its top Freezer? There is no way, UNTIL you run it a few times and the problem comes out.

Nandipur power turning out to be most expensive

SLAMABAD: The much-talked about Nandipur power project has been generating the most fuel-expensive electricity among about 80 power plants operating in the country despite having advanced machinery.

According to monthly filings to the National Electric Power Regulatory Authority (Nepra), the average fuel cost of electricity generated by the 425MW Nandipur project in November stood at about Rs10.25 per unit (kwh).

The controversial plant achieved an average capacity utilisation of 42 per cent.

The fuel cost is even higher than that of decades-old power plants in the private and public sectors, which are normally dubbed inefficient and not-so-well-maintained machines.

The fuel cost of independent power producers (IPPs) and public sector generation companies (Gencos) ranged between Rs5 and Rs8.30 per unit.

The National Transmission and Dispatch Company (NTDC), which is responsible for procurement of energy from all power plants, maintains a merit order list — starting from the cheapest to the most expensive — of 78 power stations, including those running on hydropower, gas, nuclear, furnace oil, high speed diesel and liquefied natural gas. Interestingly, no stakeholder is aware of the Nandipur plant’s merit order.

Informed sources said Nepra had sought explanations from the NTDC and the Central Power Purchasing Agency (CPPA) about the merit order of Nandipur plant, but had yet to receive these.

The merit order and capacity utilisation, commonly known in technical jargon as plant factor, play a critical role in determination of monthly fuel component charge of consumer tariff.

According to official record submitted to Nepra, power plants being run on furnace oil like Nandipur produced electricity at Rs8.30 per unit in November, compared to Rs10.35 by the Nandipur plant.

Hub Power Company, set up in the early 1990s, produced electricity at Rs7.65. The fuel cost of AES of Nishat Group at Rs8.30 per unit was the highest among IPPs.

The average fuel cost of Block-I of Kot Addu power plant, privatised in 1996, stood at Rs6.57 per unit and its block-II at Rs7.16.

The average fuel cost of Attockgen stood at Rs5.75 per unit, Atlas Power at Rs6.79 and Nishat Power and Nishat Chunian at Rs6.76 and Rs6.87 respectively. Hubco’s Norowal plant produced electricity at Rs6.84 per unit.

Interestingly, the fuel cost of decades-old thermal power plants of Gencos was also cheaper than the Nandipur project.

For example, the fuel cost of Genco-I (Jamshoro) stood at Rs8.52 per unit and Genco-III at Rs9.35 per unit.

The Nandipur plant has been in the limelight for more than five years because of inordinate delays, cost overruns and allegations of mismanagement, corruption and kickbacks.

Published in Dawn, January 9th, 2016

http://www.dawn.com/news/1231744

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Nandipur power turning out to be most expensive

SLAMABAD: The much-talked about Nandipur power project has been generating the most fuel-expensive electricity among about 80 power plants operating in the country despite having advanced machinery.

According to monthly filings to the National Electric Power Regulatory Authority (Nepra), the average fuel cost of electricity generated by the 425MW Nandipur project in November stood at about Rs10.25 per unit (kwh).

The controversial plant achieved an average capacity utilisation of 42 per cent.

The fuel cost is even higher than that of decades-old power plants in the private and public sectors, which are normally dubbed inefficient and not-so-well-maintained machines.

The fuel cost of independent power producers (IPPs) and public sector generation companies (Gencos) ranged between Rs5 and Rs8.30 per unit.

The National Transmission and Dispatch Company (NTDC), which is responsible for procurement of energy from all power plants, maintains a merit order list — starting from the cheapest to the most expensive — of 78 power stations, including those running on hydropower, gas, nuclear, furnace oil, high speed diesel and liquefied natural gas. Interestingly, no stakeholder is aware of the Nandipur plant’s merit order.

Informed sources said Nepra had sought explanations from the NTDC and the Central Power Purchasing Agency (CPPA) about the merit order of Nandipur plant, but had yet to receive these.

The merit order and capacity utilisation, commonly known in technical jargon as plant factor, play a critical role in determination of monthly fuel component charge of consumer tariff.

According to official record submitted to Nepra, power plants being run on furnace oil like Nandipur produced electricity at Rs8.30 per unit in November, compared to Rs10.35 by the Nandipur plant.

Hub Power Company, set up in the early 1990s, produced electricity at Rs7.65. The fuel cost of AES of Nishat Group at Rs8.30 per unit was the highest among IPPs.

The average fuel cost of Block-I of Kot Addu power plant, privatised in 1996, stood at Rs6.57 per unit and its block-II at Rs7.16.

The average fuel cost of Attockgen stood at Rs5.75 per unit, Atlas Power at Rs6.79 and Nishat Power and Nishat Chunian at Rs6.76 and Rs6.87 respectively. Hubco’s Norowal plant produced electricity at Rs6.84 per unit.

Interestingly, the fuel cost of decades-old thermal power plants of Gencos was also cheaper than the Nandipur project.

For example, the fuel cost of Genco-I (Jamshoro) stood at Rs8.52 per unit and Genco-III at Rs9.35 per unit.

The Nandipur plant has been in the limelight for more than five years because of inordinate delays, cost overruns and allegations of mismanagement, corruption and kickbacks.

Published in Dawn, January 9th, 2016

http://www.dawn.com/news/1231744

Isn't bahawalpur Solar Power is the Most Expensive? it's per unit production is 14 -15 Rupees

 

[MilSpec]

Don't take him seriously, he is just a paid false flag PMLN troll, just look at his posts. Just like his enzo everything about him is fake.

Nandipur power turning out to be most expensive

SLAMABAD: The much-talked about Nandipur power project has been generating the most fuel-expensive electricity among about 80 power plants operating in the country despite having advanced machinery.

According to monthly filings to the National Electric Power Regulatory Authority (Nepra), the average fuel cost of electricity generated by the 425MW Nandipur project in November stood at about Rs10.25 per unit (kwh).

The controversial plant achieved an average capacity utilisation of 42 per cent.

The fuel cost is even higher than that of decades-old power plants in the private and public sectors, which are normally dubbed inefficient and not-so-well-maintained machines.

The fuel cost of independent power producers (IPPs) and public sector generation companies (Gencos) ranged between Rs5 and Rs8.30 per unit.

The National Transmission and Dispatch Company (NTDC), which is responsible for procurement of energy from all power plants, maintains a merit order list — starting from the cheapest to the most expensive — of 78 power stations, including those running on hydropower, gas, nuclear, furnace oil, high speed diesel and liquefied natural gas. Interestingly, no stakeholder is aware of the Nandipur plant’s merit order.

Informed sources said Nepra had sought explanations from the NTDC and the Central Power Purchasing Agency (CPPA) about the merit order of Nandipur plant, but had yet to receive these.

The merit order and capacity utilisation, commonly known in technical jargon as plant factor, play a critical role in determination of monthly fuel component charge of consumer tariff.

According to official record submitted to Nepra, power plants being run on furnace oil like Nandipur produced electricity at Rs8.30 per unit in November, compared to Rs10.35 by the Nandipur plant.

Hub Power Company, set up in the early 1990s, produced electricity at Rs7.65. The fuel cost of AES of Nishat Group at Rs8.30 per unit was the highest among IPPs.

The average fuel cost of Block-I of Kot Addu power plant, privatised in 1996, stood at Rs6.57 per unit and its block-II at Rs7.16.

The average fuel cost of Attockgen stood at Rs5.75 per unit, Atlas Power at Rs6.79 and Nishat Power and Nishat Chunian at Rs6.76 and Rs6.87 respectively. Hubco’s Norowal plant produced electricity at Rs6.84 per unit.

Interestingly, the fuel cost of decades-old thermal power plants of Gencos was also cheaper than the Nandipur project.

For example, the fuel cost of Genco-I (Jamshoro) stood at Rs8.52 per unit and Genco-III at Rs9.35 per unit.

The Nandipur plant has been in the limelight for more than five years because of inordinate delays, cost overruns and allegations of mismanagement, corruption and kickbacks.

Published in Dawn, January 9th, 2016

http://www.dawn.com/news/1231744

 

[livingdead]

@MilSpec

That's weird cause this 2004 Ferrari is up for sale in London.

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oh man.. you are so mean...

 

[cloud_9]

@MilSpec

That's weird cause this 2004 Ferrari is up for sale in London.

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http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/ferrari/enzo/ferrari-enzo--2004-54/5136338?v=b

That's @umair's car.He bought this after selling his Land Cruiser.

 

[imiakhtar]

60 percent of world power is produced by coal power plants, that's also include China India USA Britain, Australia and many more who are much more concerned abt the environment and peoples health.

Incorrect for the UK. Less than 10% of generation is from coa lin the uk.

Those swallowing the propaganda should take a look at China's air quality indicators.

 

[Kabira]

@MilSpec

That's weird cause this 2004 Ferrari is up for sale in London.

View attachment 304271

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/ferrari/enzo/ferrari-enzo--2004-54/5136338?v=b

Even if he had Ferrari, I don't see the point of bragging on internet forum

 

[Zibago]

Even if he had Ferrari, I don't see the point of bragging on internet forum

 

[Viper0011.]

Nandipur power turning out to be most expensive

SLAMABAD: The much-talked about Nandipur power project has been generating the most fuel-expensive electricity among about 80 power plants operating in the country despite having advanced machinery.

Says who? Says the "DAWN" aka, IK's paid media branch, a part of that 1 billion corruption and bribery that was paid by IK and Tareen a few months ago .

Show some real proofs validated by real organizations like the WB or the ADB. Quoting cheap, yellow journalists who don't even have proper education and experience in journalism, and will write anything for a small piece of land or some few thousand $$'s, is flat out wrong and irrelevant to the reality.

 

[Zibago]

Says who? Says the "DAWN" aka, IK's paid media branch, a part of that 1 billion corruption and bribery that was paid by IK and Tareen a few months ago .

Show some real proofs validated by real organizations like the WB or the ADB. Quoting cheap, yellow journalists who don't even have proper education and experience in journalism, and will write anything for a small piece of land or some few thousand $$'s, is flat out wrong and irrelevant to the reality.

Dawn is paid haha according to noon leagis every media house except geo is paid
the only party that paid journalist is noon league they established s god damn media cell just to hire an army of trolls and we all know about them rewarding pro leagi journalists

 

[Imran Khan]

let the power come

 

[BRAVO_]

Says who? Says the "DAWN" aka, IK's paid media branch, a part of that 1 billion corruption and bribery that was paid by IK and Tareen a few months ago .

Show some real proofs validated by real organizations like the WB or the ADB. Quoting cheap, yellow journalists who don't even have proper education and experience in journalism, and will write anything for a small piece of land or some few thousand $$'s, is flat out wrong and irrelevant to the reality.

Shabash ... carry on jatta .....