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Sushil Kumar Shinde’s clarification on Hindu terror, replacing it with “saffron,” indicates that the nation’s home minister is even more poorly educated on the country’s traditions than we thought.


He has earned the dubious distinction of being the only Indian home minister to be publicly thanked by Lashkar-e-Taiba chief Hafiz Saeed. And why not? Shinde has now provided Saeed the perfect opportunity to wriggle out of the terror tag that has currently stuck to the latter.


But the big point is this: assuming Shinde is right in saying that the BJP and the RSS are promoting terror camps, clearly he is unfit to be home minister since it is his job to tackle terror. He is duty-bound to put those who support terror behind bars if he has proof of the same.

There are, however, other significant dimensions to Shinde’s “saffron terror” charge. Saffron has a much wider connotation in the Indian context beyond its linkage with the RSS and the BJP.

Saffron is part of the national flag, which was derived from the Congress party’s own flag, with the small addition of the Ashok Chakra and deletion of the spinning wheel by the constituent assembly on 22 July 1947. The flag presented by Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru had a horizontal tricolour comprising saffron, white and dark green in equal proportions.

Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan, who became the country’s first Vice-President and then President, described its significance without attaching any religious connotation to it: “The Bhagwa, or the saffron colour, denotes renunciation or disinterestedness. Our leaders must be indifferent to material gains and dedicate themselves to their work. The white in the centre is light, the path of truth, to guide our conduct. The green shows our relation to (the) soil, our relation to the plant life here, on which all other life depends. The Ashoka Chakra in the centre of the white is the wheel of the law of dharma.”

There have been other interpretations: that saffron denotes Hindu, green Muslim and white other religions. Radhakrishnan and Nehru, however, gave secular interpretations to the colours and negated any religious associations.

By naming the Samjhauta, Mecca Masjid and Malegaon blasts as Hindu terrorism, later corrected to saffron terrorism, and further connecting these incidents to the BJP and RSS, Shinde has sparked off the intended outrage.


The home minister claimed that his assertions were not ideological but based on solid investigations. The irony is that Shinde, in his other high profile position of Leader of the House in the Lok Sabha, has to deal and negotiate with the BJP, the main opposition party, almost on a daily basis when parliament is in session.

The question is should the home minister and Leader of the House in the Lok Sabha be doing official business with leaders of an organisation which is allegedly training terrorists?

In his dual role, Shinde often seeks cooperation from leaders of this political party on a variety of issues, including several issues of national interest and security, even holding breakfast, lunch and dinner meetings with a fair degree of bonhomie.

“On the one hand, we are trying to bring peace in this country. We are also taking steps against injustice to minorities as also against infiltration. But, in the midst of all this, we have got an investigation report that, be it the RSS or BJP, their training camps are promoting Hindu terrorism. We are keeping a strict vigil on all this,” Shinde said at the AICC conclave.

By implication the home minister meant that the BJP and RSS were anti-national organisations. If that is the case, is keeping a strict vigil on them enough? Why is Shinde so lenient with them? Why is his government not initiating a move to ban the two organisations?

Shinde’s statement also implies that several big states ruled by the BJP are either running training camps for terrorists, or providing them protection.

The same party was in power at the centre nine years ago, and won a resounding victory in Gujarat last month. The Congress and the BJP will be pitted head-to-head in the forthcoming regional assembly elections in Karnataka, Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh, Chhattisgarh and Delhi. The same would be the case in the next parliamentary elections.

From what he said, the home minister would need to direct many more investigations against the BJP to get it banned, or at least debarred from fighting elections or forming governments where it has won. If he does not do so, Shinde would be either guilty of dereliction of duty or of misleading the country.

Shinde’s predecessor in the home ministry, P Chidambaram, had also talked of saffron or Hindu terror but did not talk about the BJP in this connection. He merely said that the BJP had started targeting him after he went strongly against such terror groups associated with the Malegaon, Mecca Masjid and Samjhauta blasts. The term “Hindu” or “saffron” terrorism was replaced by right-wing terrorism to contrast with left-wing terrorism.

The BJP is furious at Shinde’s claims. It is likely to maintain the heat by organising a nationwide protest on 24 January. However, the net result is that this diversion will suit both parties: for the BJP, it provides a break from the infighting, and for the Congress, it provides a break from the focus on economic failure and lack of governance.


Saffron terror: Why then has Shinde not banned the BJP? | Firstpost
 
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Mani shankar aieyar clearly said that our fight is against hindutva and i will say hafeez saeed as SAHAB :).

now identify who is enemy ?

He was the one who in 1960's begged to norway fro money by saying that we are third world n it will be pleasure if you donate us..
 
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Because he is saying all this to please his political masters and has got no proof....
 
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Mr. Shinde has already made the biggest mistake by calling this sort of terror as "Hindu" terror & not only did he blamed RSS for it but also the principle opposition party BJP. If now he ban the two organisations it will be a God Send opportunity for these two organisations & BIGGEST political blunder of Independent India committed by congress as popularity of these two organisations will reach all time high & any hope of Congress regaining the power will be dashed. If congress is the largest party of India than we can't ignore RSS & BJP either as the former is the biggest volunteer (non-Political) organisation of the world while later is the second largest party of India. Besides BJP had ruled India for 6 years, so they had access to every file of previous govts. deeds (read congress) during there rule, thus, they have also great amount of cards which, if they decide to play can bring doom for congress.
 
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Sushil Kumar Shinde’s clarification on Hindu terror, replacing it with “saffron,” indicates that the nation’s home minister is even more poorly educated on the country’s traditions than we thought.


He has earned the dubious distinction of being the only Indian home minister to be publicly thanked by Lashkar-e-Taiba chief Hafiz Saeed. And why not? Shinde has now provided Saeed the perfect opportunity to wriggle out of the terror tag that has currently stuck to the latter.


But the big point is this: assuming Shinde is right in saying that the BJP and the RSS are promoting terror camps, clearly he is unfit to be home minister since it is his job to tackle terror. He is duty-bound to put those who support terror behind bars if he has proof of the same.

There are, however, other significant dimensions to Shinde’s “saffron terror” charge. Saffron has a much wider connotation in the Indian context beyond its linkage with the RSS and the BJP.

Saffron is part of the national flag, which was derived from the Congress party’s own flag, with the small addition of the Ashok Chakra and deletion of the spinning wheel by the constituent assembly on 22 July 1947. The flag presented by Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru had a horizontal tricolour comprising saffron, white and dark green in equal proportions.

Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan, who became the country’s first Vice-President and then President, described its significance without attaching any religious connotation to it: “The Bhagwa, or the saffron colour, denotes renunciation or disinterestedness. Our leaders must be indifferent to material gains and dedicate themselves to their work. The white in the centre is light, the path of truth, to guide our conduct. The green shows our relation to (the) soil, our relation to the plant life here, on which all other life depends. The Ashoka Chakra in the centre of the white is the wheel of the law of dharma.”

There have been other interpretations: that saffron denotes Hindu, green Muslim and white other religions. Radhakrishnan and Nehru, however, gave secular interpretations to the colours and negated any religious associations.

By naming the Samjhauta, Mecca Masjid and Malegaon blasts as Hindu terrorism, later corrected to saffron terrorism, and further connecting these incidents to the BJP and RSS, Shinde has sparked off the intended outrage.


The home minister claimed that his assertions were not ideological but based on solid investigations. The irony is that Shinde, in his other high profile position of Leader of the House in the Lok Sabha, has to deal and negotiate with the BJP, the main opposition party, almost on a daily basis when parliament is in session.

The question is should the home minister and Leader of the House in the Lok Sabha be doing official business with leaders of an organisation which is allegedly training terrorists?

In his dual role, Shinde often seeks cooperation from leaders of this political party on a variety of issues, including several issues of national interest and security, even holding breakfast, lunch and dinner meetings with a fair degree of bonhomie.

“On the one hand, we are trying to bring peace in this country. We are also taking steps against injustice to minorities as also against infiltration. But, in the midst of all this, we have got an investigation report that, be it the RSS or BJP, their training camps are promoting Hindu terrorism. We are keeping a strict vigil on all this,” Shinde said at the AICC conclave.

By implication the home minister meant that the BJP and RSS were anti-national organisations. If that is the case, is keeping a strict vigil on them enough? Why is Shinde so lenient with them? Why is his government not initiating a move to ban the two organisations?

Shinde’s statement also implies that several big states ruled by the BJP are either running training camps for terrorists, or providing them protection.

The same party was in power at the centre nine years ago, and won a resounding victory in Gujarat last month. The Congress and the BJP will be pitted head-to-head in the forthcoming regional assembly elections in Karnataka, Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh, Chhattisgarh and Delhi. The same would be the case in the next parliamentary elections.

From what he said, the home minister would need to direct many more investigations against the BJP to get it banned, or at least debarred from fighting elections or forming governments where it has won. If he does not do so, Shinde would be either guilty of dereliction of duty or of misleading the country.

Shinde’s predecessor in the home ministry, P Chidambaram, had also talked of saffron or Hindu terror but did not talk about the BJP in this connection. He merely said that the BJP had started targeting him after he went strongly against such terror groups associated with the Malegaon, Mecca Masjid and Samjhauta blasts. The term “Hindu” or “saffron” terrorism was replaced by right-wing terrorism to contrast with left-wing terrorism.

The BJP is furious at Shinde’s claims. It is likely to maintain the heat by organising a nationwide protest on 24 January. However, the net result is that this diversion will suit both parties: for the BJP, it provides a break from the infighting, and for the Congress, it provides a break from the focus on economic failure and lack of governance.


Saffron terror: Why then has Shinde not banned the BJP? | Firstpost


Wat he said was really correct....
 
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So you are demanding Shinde's removal for not banning BJP and not taking action - his foremost duty as home minister of india?

We are.

Now in addition to scoring a self goal w.r.t Pakistan and making Shri hafiz Sayed ji mock at us, this comment of Shinde may also cause another round of victim hood complex among a section of the Indian muslims through arguments like "look SIMI is banned just because it is Muslim..but BJP/RSS are not banned because they are Hindus...double standards..we muslims are persecuted boo hoo", as if the existing thing is not enough..
 
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Now in addition to scoring a self goal w.r.t Pakistan and makin Shri hafiz Sayed ji mock at us, this comment will also cause another round of victim hood complex among a section of the Indian muslims through arguments like "look SIMI is banned just because it is Muslim..but BJP/RSS are not banned because they are Hindus...we muslims are persecuted boo hoo".

Thats true. This is nothing but divide and rule. This is an attempt to make sure minorities do not vote based on real issues but based on fear.

The real issue in this case for indian muslims should be why has shinde not banned and arrested BJP??? But I guess thats too inconvenient to answer. Similar to answeing - how many terrorist attacks in india have happened targetting hindus and how many targetting muslims???
 
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I don't know about the rural but most Muslims i spoke to can clearly see though the BS...
 
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Now in addition to scoring a self goal w.r.t Pakistan and making Shri hafiz Sayed ji mock at us, this comment of Shinde may also cause another round of victim hood complex among a section of the Indian muslims through arguments like "look SIMI is banned just because it is Muslim..but BJP/RSS are not banned because they are Hindus...double standards..we muslims are persecuted boo hoo", as if the existing thing is not enough..

Actually we Hindus are only asking for BAN on RSS, BJP & Mr. Modi...........Pls ban them & see the CONSEQUENCES :D
 
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Actually the biggest mistake he did there was mentioning two terms "Hindu" & "Terrorists" together. Had he termed them as "Hindu extremists" then don't think it would have hurted many. We right from the start are taught by the our esteemed Congressi secularists never to relate religion with terrorism while condemning it but looks like in another (shall I say successful ?) attempt to garner more n more minority votes, minister stooped too low to get up.

Actually while accusing BJP/RSS openly of training terrorists, minister forgot that this statement intensifies his nepotism of not being able/allowed/capable of doing anything despite being aware of such situation(if it was truth at all). But hey, who got time to analyse and understand it to that level. He tried some cheap trick and probably succeeded in it.
 
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Shinde waa trying to stir the pot. Looks like he failed. He just alienated Hindus from Cong. Time for Christians to wake up an make India better by voting for Modi. Rahul can cry all he want. What truly irritates me is why Cong is also quiet about Islamic terror, terror financing from the Gulf, Domestice terror support, Sex trafficking with an Islamic terror angle, etc? Absolutely quiet while we rot.

What we should all be concerned about is the way our Indian govt has brushed aside proof that electronic voting machines can be tampered with. Hell. the US was interested in such devices and now the Indian researcher who discovered the flaws is a refugee in Canada. Ask yourself why has the gov;t brushed aside concerns? They have not even taken the time or the effort to look into it. It smells of corruption. When our gov;t can;t even pass stricter rape laws without ppl protesting in Delhi, we expect them to tell us our voting machines are fine? Then why the fuk is that researcher in Canada?
 
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