never said it happened b4 the protesters resstance ...what triggered the event that a meeting was chaired by rana sana ullah .. they planned it .. someone informed PAT workers .. that is why they reached there at 2 o clock at night ... motivation of poilice was clear to PAT that is why they
Ok. So big conspiracy there. Rana sana ullah chairs meeting and decides to attack the PAT house? Is that what you're saying? Got proofs? Also take them to court, SS has said he'll resign.
The doors are open bro. He said he'll resign. But where is your proof?
come from a supporter who demoralize army on borders everyday .. shameless hypocrisy ..w
Where did I demoarlize army? Oh wait, I'm the said slave, I'm PMLn supporter and so forth. But the truth, boy, is that I never voted PMLn and wasn't nor am a fan of PMLn. But boy, is PMLn better than PTI!
when u take forces to beeat up ur opponent like in bakery case ..
Bakery was beaten up because he didn't open shop. He wasn't an 'opponent.'
. yes it is terrorism when u let the forces to be used for political purpose ..
Everyone uses police for political purpose. But no one uses it to kill people for no reason. Those people attacked police, hence they are dead.
hen u tempe with evidence , when u loot shoot .. it is terrorism .. if it is not terrorism ... what is?
I posted the links to many events. Police tempers with evidence. Why it happened in Punjab case was because idiots were after the police saying it murdered people, when it only attacked due to protestors refusing to budge and kept attacking police.
This isn't terrorism. Terrorism is an on-going phenonmena. Just because one day 8 people die, who challenged writ of police and gov't, it becomes terrorism? Wait, anything I dislike is terrorism? Look up defination of terrorism. It's when you kill innocent people. The protestors were no innocent, they attacked police. Police fired in the air many times. Police retreated many times.
i never said u r not from pakistan ..but u dnt live here ..
Here you said it, page 8 "ht not be from Pakistan," and then went on to say I live abroad. Yes, I live abroad and damn proud of police here. If such thing happened here, I would expect police to have killed far more and arrested many as well.
u and ur noon fellows mock TuQ for everyday that he lives in canada ..
Where is your proof I'm noon leaguer? Just cuz I stand for what's right, makes me noon leaguer? And actually I donated to TuQ mosque once, big amount. I could probably make a mosque in Pakistan with that much money.
he should not take part in pakistani politics .
I didn't say he shouldn't I said, he DOESN'T. He just wants to derail democracy. The punjab gov't has asked him to participate in election. So has PPP. And the ex CJ dismissed his case because he lives abroad and cares about Pakistan. He is worse than Altaf. At least Altaf openly operates a party and has mandate. What mandate does he have? Few goons running on street and attacking police? Come to election, win seats and then do all your drama.
when u r come and talk about pakistan ..why cant he ..
When I come to Pakistan, I don't challenge writ of gov't or police. The PM is elected official. Just because I don't like him doesn't mean I start attacking police. Millions other like him. This is democracy. You go with the bigger percentage, not with few random people.
And you make it sound like it happens every year. How many days are in a year? 365 days. Does police beat bakery 365 times a year, or once or twice? How many times police "murders" people in a year?
i can bring u link if u want
Give me rana sullah article where a credible news website says he has murdered someone.
r u saying the punjab government cant order police .. if that is true i can provide u with link where i can show u shahbaz was ordering police on camera ..
What I said "PMLn is the gov't in charge, like it or not. Police falls under the gob'g. Gov't can order police to do what it pleases."
How can you not understand that? I said Gov't is IN CHARGE, and can ask police to do what it wants to. Police falls under gov't. If a military coup is to occur, police will be siding gov't, naturally.
who told u that for politics u have to take part part in election ..
Common sense. You can't win an election and expect to bring chaos into Pakistan?
do u know huriyat party in kashmir which dnt take part in election ..
Which Kashmir? There are two.
now lets talk about army .. they dnt need qadri to throw government out .. if they want it they can do it in an hour .. they have enough reasons already
Military ALWAYS needs backing. Remember MQM? Remember 2001 parliament? The parliament forgave Musharaf for abrogating the constitution or whatever it was. PMLq was with Musharaf then. You need political support. The reason why army won't do a coup, if it actually wants to, is because Sindh, Baloch and Punjab are not in favour of coup. 2 major parties are not going to derail democracy.
Before, in the 90s, it was the case. When PMLn was in power, PPP will side with army and have them dismiss the gov't. Same happened twice to both parties. Army can't do a coup without public mandate. Public mandate has voted PMLn and PPP.
See Egqypt? Army did coup due to public mandate.
bro u r talking about 2 different things... here is the link .. please stop lieing ..
BBC NEWS | South Asia | Pakistan ex-PM ignores 'arrest'
"Police fired tear gas as protesters hurled stones."
"Mr Sharif left Lahore in a convoy."
Wasn't lahore under PMLn then?
i have only one reply on this .. shame on u ... it is not a question it is a comment
And it was stupid comment to say kill shariff. You can't compare apples with oranges.
man enough to raise ur voice against PLMN and prove to me u r not a Noon league slave..
Can you write me out the meaning of slave? And sorry, I can't change your bias mind thinking I'm noon leaguer. The only way I can change is to talk good things about PTI. Unfortunately, PTI hasn't done many good things.
Why do people do that in Pakistan ..do u know it??? why do they not listen to police?? have u ever been to pakistani police station ...??? im pretty sure if u have been there u wouldnt ask me this question .. i have been in police stations (not for bad reasons) session courts and high courts .. i have more expirence then u have in this area...
Police there dont loot shops, dont break cars, dont use GulluButt, police act neutral not as pets of a family , they dont temper medical record.. that is why police is respected ...Do u know that how they save GulluButt, have u seen the FIR registered against him .. all the charges put on his is irrelivent .. so police keep him in jail for few days so government can have face saving then they let him go ... same was done when Shahbaz sharif used police to beat Up bakery Boy .. did u get my point why is police respected there ??? do u know that all the protesters are booked for antiterrorism while GulluButt was just just charged for things he haven't done? do u know shahbaz sharif agreed to FIR, then passed it for judicial inquiry .. my brother from canada , in fantasy life what u r saying might be right ... nut here police is used to victimize opponents .. that is done in this case .. still u r justifying it ...
Oh please, don't start a new topic. You gave me links where protestors attack police. I gave you link where police attacks protestors back. They arrest, they kill. But if same happens in Pakistan, it becomes terrorism.
And PLEASE don't generalize police. Just because police loots here and there, break cars here and there, does it mean all police does it? If this is so, why not get rid of police? Why do you have police? Go to UN and say your police break cars every day of the year, it loots every day of the year.
And FYI, in the west, police has much higher life expectancy than in Pakistan. These people die for you.
"do u know that all the protesters are booked for antiterrorism"
Not anymore. Political pressure now, thanks to you. They're all sort of freed.
"did u get my point why is police respected there ???"
Police is respected no where when it enforces law. People hate police here when they give you speeding tickets. but no one throws rock at police because they gave you a ticket. Mind you, the ticket is anywhere from 10,000 rupees to 100,000 rupees+. How much ticket cost in Pakistan?
"nut here police is used to victimize opponents .. "
That's true. As I said, Police falls under gov't. But TuQ is not opponent. He has not taken part in elections. He's just an anti-democracy dude.
"still u r justifying it .."
Justifying what? Killing of protestors? I'm not justifying it. No killings should've happened. But because police was attacked many times, it was bound to happen. If there were no protestors, no one would be killed or injured.
