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S-400 purchase to benefit the Greeks and the Israelis

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RUSSIA will NOT give anything CRITICAL.
That what you guys call ToT, are just minimal local work share for Turkish companies.

We should have chosen Europe's ASTER systems instead of US/Russian ones...

You really believe that France will give Turkey critical info on ASTER?
I think it's far more likely for Turkey to get ToT from Russia or USA than France,considering french behavior towards Turkey in the last few decades.
 
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F-35s use on Greeks and Israhells would be VETOed by Washington. Turkey has no rights to use the F-35s, only privileges and is borrowing them to kill Muslims (or Russians), not NATO or other puppets.

For this reason go with the TAI-FX and SU-57s and J-31s.
 
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My Turk brothers, please understand that the whiteys won't give anything critical to anyone who is even REMOTELY connected to Islam in ANY way. We have to develop it ALL ourselves. Science, engineering and technology needs to be taken as a FARZ duty by present day Muslim college students and read the levels of PhDs.
 
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You really believe that France will give Turkey critical info on ASTER?
I think it's far more likely for Turkey to get ToT from Russia or USA than France,considering french behavior towards Turkey in the last few decades.

You don't understand me, no one will give ToT and also where did i say "France will give critical tech"?
One thing is sure, if we would have chosen ASTER, there wouldn't be threats like "CAATSA" or "F-35".

btw... Aselsan, Roketsan and Eurosam signed 2017 an agreement for the development of a long-range air and missile defence system.
 
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Wait until Ankara tells Washington they will run tests on the S-400s to test the vulnerabilities of the F-35s. Washington would ground all Turkish F-35s via the satellites link-ups. Turkish F-35s would not move or start. The same would be true in a war against NATO members or zionist jews. F-35s would not could not fly.
 
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You don't understand me, no one will give ToT. Where did i say "France will give ToT"?

Aselsan, Roketsan and Eurosam signed 2017 an agreement for the development of a long-range air and missile defence system.

Eurosam is (mostly) owned by french companies if i remember correctly.
 
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. Our 2 upcoming aircraft carriers are built specifically for either Harriers or F35s. They are the only planes capable of taking off and landing on these ships.

So we were going to receive 100 F35-As and 32 F35-Bs. The Bs were meant to be stationed on these 2 carriers.

Our navy isn't complete without the F35s.
 
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Yesterday Tayyip and Trump had a phone call. Rumors say that Tayyip gave a guarantee to not let S400s operational in Turkey. After S400s arrived they will seal it up and keep it in military arsenal. So we will have it but not use it.

What a waste

Wait so you are telling me that Erdogan will manage to get both S-400 and F35s and you will still find a way to blame him for it? Because of something that even you admit are RUMORS?

You should stop fooling around and just put on your tingoil hats and reserve a room in the nearest mental hospital.
 
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Wait so you are telling me that Erdogan will manage to get both S-400 and F35s and you will still find a way to blame him for it? Because of something that even you admit are RUMORS?

You should stop fooling around and just put on your tingoil hats and reserve a room in the nearest mental hospital.
Ok dude don't be fooled and get out of this threat. That rumors started to turn in the truth.
Yesterday Tayyip had offered Trump that to establish a committee to discuss on it in Nato . Akp's mouth peace socalled journalists say that.
They speculating that we are gonna have the systems but not let 'em be operational to avoid CAATSA.
Who says that we are gonna have f35s ? Even if that happened the way that I say, it doesn't certain.
What if USA orders that no operations in Mediterranean Sea? What if USA would to use same f35 card again? So I don't say we will get those both systems. But we will avoid CAATSA.
Now you can leave here to us. We have no fairy tales for you kiddos.
 
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Turkey should be a proud independent nation and not a lackey of the US. No weapon system is worth you selling your country into a vassal state. Looking at the comments on this thread, I feel sad and sick in the stomach. What happened to the proud nation of Turks? When did they become a slave-minded bunch of people that talk about bending their knees just to get an F-35?

Erdogan hasn't gone far enough. He should begin taking more serious steps against the secular sellouts, they have no real patriotism in them.
 
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Turkey should be a proud independent nation and not a lackey of the US. No weapon system is worth you selling your country into a vassal state. Looking at the comments on this thread, I feel sad and sick in the stomach. What happened to the proud nation of Turks? When did they become a slave-minded bunch of people that talk about bending their knees just to get an F-35?

Erdogan hasn't gone far enough. He should begin taking more serious steps against the secular sellouts, they have no real patriotism in them.


"Secular sellouts"

Lol have a long hard look at yourself

You clearly have no understanding about the situation or anything about Turkey's history.

We made our own planes back in Ataturk's time... Then an Islamist called Adnan Menderes came along and closed our factories and made us reliant on the US.

We have been a member of the F35 project for many years now and we have a LHD on the way that is specifically meant for F35-Bs. And now it will be virtually useless because of our government's stupidity. It's clear that Erdogan works to to the benefit of our hostile neighbors. Not a surpise after you realise that he is Georgian.
 
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"Secular sellouts"

Lol have a long hard look at yourself

You clearly have no understanding about the situation or anything about Turkey's history.

We made our own planes back in Ataturk's time... Then an Islamist called Adnan Menderes came along and closed our factories and made us reliant on the US.

We have been a member of the F35 project for many years now and we have a LHD on the way that is specifically meant for F35-Bs. And now it will be virtually useless because of our government's stupidity. It's clear that Erdogan works to to the benefit of our hostile neighbors. Not a surpise after you realise that he is Georgian.

I heard the Marshall plan also played a role in closure of many industries in Turkey not just Menderes.

Many people dont really know the true of story Adnan Menderes him getting hanged was a mistake because ever since his death he has been elavated to a hero status because he got executed not something he really deserves.
 
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