Russias Leading Semiconductors manufacturers Mikron & MCST Elbrus

[senheiser]

@OCguy @vostok @Schutz @VCheng @A.P. Richelieu @Juice @Peter C @cirr @Beidou2020 @Chinese-Dragon

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Well anytime you rely on outside hardware/software for critical industries your are at a disadvantage. So it is a natural progression.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

@OCguy @vostok @Schutz @VCheng @A.P. Richelieu @Juice @Peter C @cirr @Beidou2020 @Chinese-Dragon

90 nm, 500 Mhz.

You are aware that this is similar to what Lego is using in their recently released Mindstorm Robot.
It is likely to have taken 2-3 years to develop, so Russia is developing 2011 Toy Technology TODAY!

 

[senheiser]

90 nm, 500 Mhz.

You are aware that this is similar to what Lego is using in their recently released Mindstorm Robot.
It is likely to have taken 2-3 years to develop, so Russia is developing 2011 Toy Technology TODAY!

first of all has your 300€ toy an arm processor made by American semiconductor manufacturer Texas Instruments not lego, second its clocked at 300mhz
Lego Mindstorms EV3 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



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Обзор российского 4-ядерного процессора Эльбрус-4С. Часть 3: тесты, сравнение с Intel. Cтатьи, тесты, обзоры

Characteristics of the test stands

Intel Core i7 2600-Elbrus 2C-Elbrus 4C
Number of cores 4-2-4
Clock frequency, MHz 3400-500-700






Comparative results of testing of microprocessors

Intel Core i7-2600Elbrus-2C+Elbrus-4C
Archiving algorithm 7zip (compression), MB/s 3,95-0,543-0,665
Archiving algorithm 7zip (extraction), MB/s 33,437-6,296-8,679

this is already what our outdated 500-700 mhz cpus do, once when we get 8 core with 1.3 mhz the core i7 cpu will suck *** against our own russian made cpu. Slowly but surely we will built our own cpus decreasing the nanometer size and producing cpus with higher clock speed while you european will still keep buying your CPUs from american calculator manufacturers.

 

[senheiser]

also we already have 1ghz quadcore the R1000

http://www.mcst.ru/r_1000

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

first of all has your 300€ toy an arm processor made by American semiconductor manufacturer Texas Instruments not lego, second its clocked at 300mhz
Lego Mindstorms EV3 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



third

Обзор российского 4-ядерного процессора Эльбрус-4С. Часть 3: тесты, сравнение с Intel. Cтатьи, тесты, обзоры


this is already what our outdated 500-700 mhz cpus do, once when we get 8 core with 1.3 mhz the core i7 cpu will suck *** against our own russian made cpu. Slowly but surely we will built our own cpus decreasing the nanometer size and producing cpus with higher clock speed while you european will still keep buying your CPUs from american calculator manufacturers.

Swedish companies have had 1 GHz+ dual core in 45 nm for several years already.
Now Quad-Core/Octa-Core is beeing released in finer technologies.

Reason Lego went with ARM9 technology, was that it is obsolete and thus so cheap.

also we already have 1ghz quadcore the R1000

http://www.mcst.ru/r_1000

So there was really no reason to create a link to obsolecense.

 

[senheiser]

Swedish companies have had 1 GHz+ dual core in 45 nm for several years already.
Now Quad-Core/Octa-Core is beeing released in finer technologies.

Reason Lego went with ARM9 technology, was that it is obsolete and thus so cheap.



So there was really no reason to create a link to obsolecense.

where`? you dont have any

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

ST-Ericsson for starters...

But there are several other companies like Axis.

 

[mandrom]

@A.P. Richelieu ,there is 90 nm and 65 nm already in russia. the 90nm has a speed of 28 Gflops and 65nm has a speed of 50 gflops.

90nm elbrus-2s is comparable to core2duo. 65nm one is comparable to i3,i5 and first generation i7.

Swedish companies have had 1 GHz+ dual core in 45 nm for several years already.
Now Quad-Core/Octa-Core is beeing released in finer technologies.

Reason Lego went with ARM9 technology, was that it is obsolete and thus so cheap.




So there was really no reason to create a link to obsolecense.

ARM consumes very little power.Thats why it is preferred. Even cloud server companies want ARM solution to reduce power costs. hence,baikal is being made on ARM .

@senheiser

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

@A.P. Richelieu ,there is 90 nm and 65 nm already. the 90nm has a speed of 28 Gflops and 65nm has a speed of 50 gflops.

90nm elbrus-2s is comparable to core2duo. 65nm one is comparable to i3,i5 and first generation i7.

Why not boast about 3 micron technology also, Russia has had it for AGES.

 

[mandrom]

Why not boast about 3 micron technology also, Russia has had it for AGES.

unless russia makes 3 micron graphene or phospherene chip (which could theortically crush petaflop super computer ) ,I am not going to boast about it.

Second,I believe Sweden buys its chips from foreign fabs, though it does have fabless developers. or does sweden have a 45nm fab?

even germany and ireland have 90 nm fabs of amd and intel. Though Israel and usa have 22 nm.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

No, very few companies have their own (modern) fab nowadays. Intel and Samsung and not much more.
Even Apple does not manufacture their own chips.
The fabs cost 2-3 B$ each.
You fab at TSMC, Samsung and the likes.

 

[mandrom]

No, very few companies have their own (modern) fab nowadays. Intel and Samsung and not much more.
Even Apple does not manufacture their own chips.
The fabs cost 2-3 B$ each.
You fab at TSMC, Samsung and the likes.

then you are not independent. Russia has set up a 65 nm small fab anglstrem and are setting 28 nm one by late 2014/2015 . Then there is the larger fab for 90 nm in zelenograd , The Russians altered the instruction cycle ,which intel-amd felt would be impossible/difficult to do and used the 2/4 instructions per cycle.

Russians use 23 instructions per cycle!!!! This is why the 65 nm and 90 nm are giving good speed .

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

And the average number of instructions before you jump is ....

 

[pakdefender]

90nm has a speed of 28 Gflops and 65nm has a speed of 50 gflops

explain your statement , how a manufacturing process like 28nm or 65nm relates to floating point operations per second , put your Indian brilliance on display