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Russia's dreams come true in India with Putin's help

Russia's dreams come true in India with Putin's help

Russia's dreams come true in India with Putin's help - English pravda.ru

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Our friendship is strong and grows stronger. strong friends. alliance.
 
Russia is just using India, ''milking the fat cow'' kind of thing. Its nothing more, only interests. It doesnt want India to join the American crew. No such thing as friendship in foreign policy :sniper:

Friendship? Must be an alien word to you. The same country that supported you now bombs the **** out of you. So it seems strange when a pakistani talks about friendship. Friendship is not about cheer leading either.
 
Russia is just using India, ''milking the fat cow'' kind of thing. Its nothing more, only interests. It doesnt want India to join the American crew. No such thing as friendship in foreign policy :sniper:

So what about china... for god sake don't talk like kid... Soviet Union sent their fleet to oppose USN-7th fleet for India during 71 war... and USA sent it's fleet to attack us but what china did( your so called all weather friend)? just sit tight watch every thing... do you think china providing you their weapons for friendship? anyways i am not interested to talk with some one who don't have minimum sense... all the best to you in pdf.
 
So what about china... for god sake don't talk like kid... Soviet Union sent their fleet to oppose USN-7th fleet for India during 71 war... and USA sent it's fleet to attack us but what china did( your so called all weather friend)? just sit tight watch every thing... do you think china providing you their weapons for friendship? anyways i am not interested to talk with some one who don't have minimum sense... all the best to you in pdf.

You failed to understand my point and continued with the usual RANT! There is no such thing as friendship when it comes to foreign policy, ONLY interests... Whoever it may be :sniper:
 
NONO,there'r two different dreams. One always to be a good customer, but one dream to become a seller, it's our difference.

That's why Russians are happy to keep China as a good customer for their engines, fighters, helicopters, while they only offer India co-developments on a partner level. So which country really went beyond the customer level? :rolleyes:
 
That's why Russians are happy to keep China as a good customer for their engines, fighters, helicopters, while they only offer India co-developments on a partner level. So which country really went beyond the customer level? :rolleyes:

Is that a bad thing though? Because that status has led to the Chinese industry being less reliant on the Russians for their arms than India is.
 
Is that a bad thing though? Because that status has led to the Chinese industry being less reliant on the Russians for their arms than India is.

How can buying be better then co-development? You can think of it from JF-17 perspective. Do you think Pakistan would have been better off buying the aircrafts? That is just an example but that is also different than the partnership between India and Russia because India is investing heavily and is much more involved in projects and with co-development India is going to acquire technologies which otherwise will take long time for it to develop, if it decides to go alone.
 
Is that a bad thing though? Because that status has led to the Chinese industry being less reliant on the Russians for their arms than India is.

Is it? Where does the design for their J20 come from? Why do they need Russian RD93, AL31 and now even wants 117S and other engines?... Only because they copy many Russian designs and developments, without paying for them, doesn't make it somehow Chinese. China is still dependend on Russia, for many things, when we take Russian reports to account even for fighter radar techs. But if they can't get it on other ways, they have to pay for it like any normal customer as well, India on the other side is reducing the dependence, by joining partnerships! That gives India much more involvement about the requirements, costs and even after sale support, while China remains dependent on what Russia is ready to provide.
 
How can buying be better then co-development? You can think of it from JF-17 perspective. Do you think Pakistan would have been better off buying the aircrafts? That is just an example but that is also different than the partnership between India and Russia because India is investing heavily and is much more involved in projects and with co-development India is going to acquire technologies which otherwise will take long time for it to develop if it decides to go alone.

Think local manufacture, reverse engineering..etc.

Is it? Where does the design for their J20 come from? Why do they need Russian RD93, AL31 and now even wants 117S and other engines?... Only because they copy many Russian designs and developments, without paying for them, doesn't make it somehow Chinese. China is still dependend on Russia, for many things, when we take Russian reports to account even for fighter radar techs. But if they can't get it on other ways, they have to pay for it like any normal customer as well, India on the other side is reducing the dependence, by joining partnerships! That gives India much more involvement about the requirements, costs and even after sale support, while China remains dependent on what Russia is ready to provide.

Yes it is, but products like the J-10 also show that the level of dependance is reducing .. not rapidly.. but it is.
The issue of dependance on engines has more to do with metallurgy than design.
 
Is that a bad thing though? Because that status has led to the Chinese industry being less reliant on the Russians for their arms than India is.

The Indians are happy with the path they chose, and we are happy with ours.

Time will tell which path gives better results for our respective indigenous defence industries.
 

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