Russian ground forces take on mujahideen in Syria

[ultron]

It wasn't a few thousand, it was over 14,000 killed.

That's still tiny casualty.

 

[Hamza913]

That's still tiny casualty.

Are you mad? That's a huge number.

 

[SecularNationalist]

Mujahideen are the same, no matter what they are ethnically, what language they speak, what country they are from, whether in Afghanistan, or in Chechnya, or in Syria. Anyone who lifts 1 finger up at the sky is a target. Russians love slaying mujahideen.

Get out of your mom,s basement you stupid kid and learn the facts.
And by the way why you are so excited ,you are an americunt right ?

 

[50cent]

Mujahideen are the same, no matter what they are ethnically, what language they speak, what country they are from, whether in Afghanistan, or in Chechnya, or in Syria. Anyone who lifts 1 finger up at the sky is a target. Russians love slaying mujahideen.

These so called Afghan mujahideen r the reason for Afghanistan condition if they haven't done any resistance Afghanistan will be just prosperous as any other Soviet former republic and there were no refugees in basher Assad time

 

[ultron]

Are you mad? That's a huge number.

Huge compared to what?

 

[الأعرابي]

Huge compared to what?

Compared to US casualties in Afghanistan.

 

[ultron]

Compared to US casualties in Afghanistan.

True. Ukraine lost less than 4000 over a span of 2 years in Donbas. Casualties like these are very tiny compared to WW1.

The US lost 116,708 over a few months in WW1.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_casualties

 

[Hamza913]

Huge compared to what?

That's 3-4 soldiers a day, making the casualties bigger than what Israel, NATO or we face against terrorism.

 

[ptldM3]

In the first Chechen war, Russia got it's @ss whooped, even in the second one it still took them almost 10 years just to get some peace deal, and even then they had to change their terms to what the Chechens demanded. And Afghanistan, well, I don't need to bring that up...

the first Chechen war did not go very well because of it was shortly after the Soviet Union collapsed, and the military was in disarray.

As for the second war, you claiming it "taking almost 10 years" and Russians bowing to Chechen demands, well you are just an ignorant fool. Firstly the war was over very quickly, Chechnya fell almost instantly, with the Chechen terrorists and other scum from around the world targeting civilians as retribution for their failure.

As for 'Chechen demands' that Russia supposedly agreed to, what were those exactly? Chechnya is part of Russia

Most of the fighting in Chechnya was done in thick forests often with thick fog and snow to were aircraft could not always provide support; likewise much of the fighting took place in urban environments, this is the worst type of environments for militaries because of ambushes and little or no aviation and armor support. Yet Russia still defeated the allah akbarers with ease.


If you are implying that Pakistan or Quatar would do better good look. We are seeing what happens when Arabs try to act like the big boys, they always lose, the latest embarrassment is Yemen.

 

[ptldM3]

It wasn't a few thousand, it was over 14,000 killed.

More rubbish. Where did you get those statistics? Russia did not lose that many men even if we include suicides, accidents, and illness.

If we look at Afghanistan for instance, the total death toll was 14,000 while only about 9,000 were combat related deaths, the majority of which were due to IEDs and stinger strikes to aircraft. Man to man, your terrorist boys got beat down hard, that's why they seldemly fought man to man, instead they turned to cowardly tactics. They would hit a target then quickly crawl into caves like cave rats or they would dress like women to try to escape

 

[GiannKall]

the first Chechen war did not go very well because of it was shortly after the Soviet Union collapsed, and the military was in disarray.

As for the second war, you claiming it "taking almost 10 years" and Russians bowing to Chechen demands, well you are just an ignorant fool. Firstly the war was over very quickly, Chechnya fell almost instantly, with the Chechen terrorists and other scum from around the world targeting civilians as retribution for their failure.

As for 'Chechen demands' that Russia supposedly agreed to, what were those exactly? Chechnya is part of Russia

Most of the fighting in Chechnya was done in thick forests often with thick fog and snow to were aircraft could not always provide support; likewise much of the fighting took place in urban environments, this is the worst type of environments for militaries because of ambushes and little or no aviation and armor support. Yet Russia still defeated the allah akbarers with ease.


If you are implying that Pakistan or Quatar would do better good look. We are seeing what happens when Arabs try to act like the big boys, they always lose, the latest embarrassment is Yemen.

Considering the fact that Chechenya has 1 million population and Russia 150 i would say that the fact that the Chechens defeated Russians in the first Chechen war should be considered one of the biggest military achievements. Its true that Russians returned but today no Russian soldiers exist in Chechenya. You just have a pro-Russian dictator and thats all
(a situation that reminds more of Uzbekistan or Tajjikistan than a federal republic of Russia)

 

[Hamza913]

More rubbish. Where did you get those statistics? Russia did not lose that many men even if we include suicides, accidents, and illness.

If we look at Afghanistan for instance, the total death toll was 14,000 while only about 9,000 were combat related deaths, the majority of which were due to IEDs and stinger strikes to aircraft. Man to man, your terrorist boys got beat down hard, that's why they seldemly fought man to man, instead they turned to cowardly tactics. They would hit a target then quickly crawl into caves like cave rats or they would dress like women to try to escape

Russia frequently lies about casualties, and was called out on it in the Chechen wars by both the international community and many organisations in Russia, such as the committee of soldiers mothers. And saying you communists only lost 14,000 in Afghanistan doesn't count the Afghans fighting with you. Combining their casualties it's 30,000 for your side in Afghanistan, but probably higher as the scoundrels in the KGB love to lie.

Got beat down hard? Remind me again, who left Afghanistan? As for Chechnya, Kadyrov does whatever the f*ck he wants, but since he kisses Putins @ss he can get away with it. Not to mention in order for there to be peace between Russia and Chechnya, your lot had to change the terms to make them more favourable to Chechnya. Oh and the insurgency is still going.

And don't bring morality into this, because you will lose. When the whole school siege happened, your boys gassed your own children, YOUR OWN F*CKING CHILDREN! Not to mention the regular war crimes your crooked army has always committed.

Considering the fact that Chechenya has 1 million population and Russia 150 i would say that the fact that the Chechens defeated Russians in the first Chechen war should be considered one of the biggest military achievements. Its true that Russians returned but today no Russian soldiers exist in Chechenya. You just have a pro-Russian dictator and thats all
(a situation that reminds more of Uzbekistan or Tajjikistan than a federal republic of Russia)

The insurgency is still going too, and Russia had to change the terms to make the Chechens mostly agree to peace. Also, Kadyrov is hated by the KGB and most of the Russian government, but as long as he sweet talks Putin, he can do what he wants, this allegedly includes execution of Russian soldiers entering Chechnya.

the first Chechen war did not go very well because of it was shortly after the Soviet Union collapsed, and the military was in disarray.

As for the second war, you claiming it "taking almost 10 years" and Russians bowing to Chechen demands, well you are just an ignorant fool. Firstly the war was over very quickly, Chechnya fell almost instantly, with the Chechen terrorists and other scum from around the world targeting civilians as retribution for their failure.

As for 'Chechen demands' that Russia supposedly agreed to, what were those exactly? Chechnya is part of Russia

Most of the fighting in Chechnya was done in thick forests often with thick fog and snow to were aircraft could not always provide support; likewise much of the fighting took place in urban environments, this is the worst type of environments for militaries because of ambushes and little or no aviation and armor support. Yet Russia still defeated the allah akbarers with ease.


If you are implying that Pakistan or Quatar would do better good look. We are seeing what happens when Arabs try to act like the big boys, they always lose, the latest embarrassment is Yemen.

1. Pakistanis aren't Arab, I will lose it if ever hear anyone say that again.
2. The terms were that Chechnya could operate more freely on its own, effectively making it a state within a state. In other words, getting independence without really getting it.
3. I don't know if you remember what happened in Afghanistan, when the CIA, ISI and Afghan locals whipped your army like a dog.