Russian Economy almost the same size like Germany according to Worldbank

[vK_man]

France has been feeding off GE's multibillion dollar R&D budget after World War II. Where did you think the war-ravaged French got their jet engines? Out of thin air?

Well thats your problem .You gave your own competitors tools to ruin you.You did the same with chinese and look today where USA is ,about to have an economic social cataclysm in next 1-2 years.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I can't believe you claim the French have the engineering edge. They are a small country with a small R&D budget. Also, for your information, French jet engines are based on GE technology.

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China's jet engine has also its root from the American P&W, but we have made a much bigger progression from the F100/F110 equivalent WS-10 to the F119 equivalent WS-15, while the French has not made much progression with their limited potential capability.

 

[Jade]

Well thats your problem .You gave your own competitors tools to ruin you.You did the same with chinese and look today where USA is ,about to have an economic social cataclysm in next 1-2 years.

Comedy

Martian2 is a Chinese.

 

[vK_man]

Comedy

Martian2 is a Chinese.

Huh?

Then why is his location and country flag USA?

 

[Jade]

Huh?

Then why is his location and country flag USA?

You are too new to know the things that goes here. Spend some time and you will know a lot of funny things.

Anyway, you should ask Martian2 on why his flags are of US, while his loyalties lies with China. May be ashamed of Chinese flags. Who knows.

 

[Martian2]

I've always said I'm Taiwanese-American of Chinese origin. Do I have to keep repeating that in every thread? I've only been repeating the mantra endlessly for the last three years.

By the way, what does that have to do with the content of my posts?

I have over 92,000 views on my J-20 Mighty Dragon YouTube video and not a single person has asked about my background. Why would it affect the substance of my YouTube video or my posts here? I'm not a politician running for office. I'm merely an armchair general.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

However, USSR had built a very robust military industry complex, and i don't think the post-WWII Germany has something remotely close to that.

The military technology is the true high-end technology compared to the civilian one, but you also need a good market system to link them together.

 

[Banglar Lathial]

Russia and Germany represent two very different political dynamics, if you would like, so comparing them based on one GDP measurement is not very relevant, probably. They both have their areas of excellence, and weaknesses, like most other countries perhaps.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Russia and Germany represent two very different political dynamics, if you would like, so comparing them based on one GDP measurement is not very relevant, probably. They both have their areas of excellence, and weaknesses, like most other countries perhaps.

That's right, a country like USA is the one being strong in multiple domains, that's why they are the only superpower (hyperpower) nowadays.

 

[dbc]

And call me when West has capability to commercially extract Methane Hydrates,the infinite methane resource of the planet.West has been trying since 20 years to extract commercially but it has been a failure.Russians,They have been producing from Methane Hydrate near Norilsk since the 70's THAT to commercially.

Are you talking about the Messoyakha Gas Field? If so, then you are talking about Methane hydrate gas trapped in a natural reservoir that the Russians began producing in the 70’s. They did not find an eco-friendly means of separating Methane, the separation occurred naturally over a period of time due to sub surface pressure. Not that any of this is relevant to the topic being discussed but please try to keep the discussion honest even if it is not relevant to the topic being discussed.

Deep in the Arctic Circle, in the Messoyakha gas field of western Siberia, lies a pioneer in methane hydrate extraction. Back in 1967, Russian engineers began pumping natural gas from beneath the permafrost and piping it east across the tundra to the Norilsk metal smelter, the biggest industrial enterprise in the Arctic. In 1978 they decided to wind down the operation. According to their surveys, they had sapped nearly all the methane from the deposit. But despite their estimates, the gas just kept on coming. The gas field was re-opened and continues to power Norilsk today.

Where was this methane coming from? Russian geologists initially thought it was leaking from another deposit hidden beneath the first. But their experiments revealed the opposite -- the mystery methane was seeping into the well from the icy permafrost above. If unintentionally, what they had achieved was the first, and so far only, successful exploitation of methane hydrate.

Tundra Gas Inc

 

[dbc]

Even Reliance and Essar have procured equipments from Uralmash instead of Baker Hughes because uralmash drilling rigs are pretty good and reasonablly priced too and BP subsidiary TNK uses Uralmash rigs .

Are you implying Uralmash is better than Baker Hughes? Are they even competing in the same market segment? Baker Hughes provides Oilfield services such as logging, drilling and completions while Uralmash makes heavy equipment and rigs.

 

[gambit]

However, USSR had built a very robust military industry complex, and i don't think the post-WWII Germany has something remotely close to that.

The military technology is the true high-end technology compared to the civilian one, but you also need a good market system to link them together.

Wrong. Actually it depends on who is financing and supporting the development of new technologies. If we are talking about the USSR where just about every technological development, new or evolutionary, is considered to be of 'military value' until proven otherwise, then your assertion have some truth in it. But that is not how the West works. In the West, it is the civilian ventures who will lead in the development of new technologies and evolve the current ones, then the military will make adaptations to suit military needs. Spectacular programs like the Apollo moon missions, the Space Shuttle and the Internet were civilian in nature.

 

[The SC]

You can use any means to compare countries economies, but the simplest is common sense, and If the Russian economy is almost the same as the German one, than one has to take into account the Population numbers, than The PPP based on the GDP, will be clearer, the same applies for India versus Japan.
Economic science is not an exact science it is a bit like meteorology, with the economic fluctuations changing with the global events (winds).

 

[Audio]

However, USSR had built a very robust military industry complex, and i don't think the post-WWII Germany has something remotely close to that.

The military technology is the true high-end technology compared to the civilian one, but you also need a good market system to link them together.

lol, so by the end of WWII USSR had a high end military complex?
Might pointing out some of the products that this complex produced?

Additionally, the "high end tech" was coming out of relocated factories behind the Urals. The absence of those factories today can tell you just one thing-they moved them back and not a lot of R&D was done in the immediate years post war.

Also in statistics..this is a reply to everyone...no single number can represent the true story, but a combination of numbers/stats can paint a pretty good picture.

Clearly you continue to demonstrate your ignorance:

Check E4 Group engineering/construction
VNIIPNEFT(minerals,oil and gas equipment manufacturer)
Atommash/Atomstroyexport
Arsenal Design Bureau
Technopromexport
All engineering companies.

Its the renewables and railroad tech segments that Siemens has secured in Russia.
And if you want to talk about Benz,I would recommend you check Kombat T98 and as there is no middle luxury segment car in the russian market .Its a luxury vehicle capable of withstanding an RPG built in EU and Russia,developed by Russians. call me when your luxury car segment has something similiar.As for MaRussia,its good but not up to the level of the Japanese or Italians.

And call me when West has capability to commercially extract Methane Hydrates,the infinite methane resource of the planet.West has been trying since 20 years to extract commercially but it has been a failure.Russians,They have been producing from Methane Hydrate near Norilsk since the 70's THAT to commercially.
And call me when your nation can do something other than just printing money and treasury bonds and bombing other nations.

Who would want to call you? You are obnoxious. Russ1@ Str0ng!!1111

 

[vK_man]

Are you talking about the Messoyakha Gas Field? If so, then you are talking about Methane hydrate gas trapped in a natural reservoir that the Russians began producing in the 70’s. They did not find an eco-friendly means of separating Methane, the separation occurred naturally over a period of time due to sub surface pressure. Not that any of this is relevant to the topic being discussed but please try to keep the discussion honest even if it is not relevant to the topic being discussed.



Tundra Gas Inc

Did you do a google search and post the first link huh? Maybe you should read on the depressurization technique which was pioneered on basis of the siberian hydrates in the 70's. And clearly methane hydrate gas does not exist.ITS METHANE TRAPPED IN ICE CRYSTALS/ICE.This was the field which led to the discovery of depressurization which is considered most economical

Messoyakha ? possibly yes. I believe it was maybe named something else. Wait .yes its messoyakha

Thermal-stimulation models have emerged from four laboratories. Depressurization, on the other hand, has been the method used in the single example of hydrate production from the Messoyakha field in the U.S.S.R. Verigin et al. proposed an isothermal depressurization model in which heat was assumed to flow instantaneously from the surroundings to the hydrate body. Holder and Angert proposed a methane-hydrate global depressurization model in which the heat of dissociation came from the sensible heat of the reservoir itself. Burshears et al. extended this model to gas mixtures. Yousif et al. proposed a model similar to the Russian moving-boundary model, but allowed for a temperature gradient within the hydrated zone; this model, which has had some limited experimental confirmation, shows the inverse relationship of production with time, relative to the work of Verigin et al.
Experimental and Theoretical Investigation of Methane-Gas-Hydrate Dissociation in Porous Media

However, there is an important point to be noted here. It
implies that the three phases were present in hydrate layer i.e. water,
gas and solid hydrate. It is poorly understood what might cause the
water in hydrate layer to drain into the lower free gas zone (Moridis
and Kowalsky, 2005). However, it is also suggested that hydrates at
Messoyakha were in a state of dissociation when the field was
discovered (Makogon, 2007).
It should be pointed that there is a dearth of information on effect
of porous media on hydrate equilibrium behavior and it is not
understood fully. Moreover, there is no information available on the
capillary pressures and relative permeability in presence of hydrates at
Messoyakha. It might very well be possible that the co-existence of all
the three phases is affected by capillary pressures. Given these
constraints, this problem was simplified by assuming that in the hydrate
layer there is hydrate and gas and in the lower free gas layer, gas and
water. This simplification was necessary to initialize the model.
http://www.holditch.com/Portals/66/Hydrates_Messoyakha_ISOPE.pdf

http://www.ogbus.ru/eng/authors/Korchagin/Korchagin_1e.pdf

Hydrates of Hydrocarbons - IaUri- Fedorovich Makogon - Google Books

Your govt is trying to apply the depressurization technique and I have seen only limited success especially on That Mallik field.
http://www.eanpinfo.com/treatise/hydrate/4.pdf

And before you tell me about the thermal stimulation technique ,its **** expensive.