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Russia throws its weight behind China-Pakistan corridor, keeps India on tenterhooks
Sachin Parashar| TNN | Updated: Dec 18, 2016, 11.40 PM IST


Russia's nebulous public position on its growing ties with Pakistan continues to give sleepless nights to Indian policymakers who have sought to isolate Islamabad on the issue of terrorism.


After it officially denied reports that it had shown any interest in China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), Moscow has not just declared strong support for the China-funded project but also announced its intention to link its own Eurasian Economic Union project with CPEC.

CPEC, which will link Gwadar in Pakistan's restive Balochistan province to Xinjiang in China, remains a major bugbear for Indian foreign policy as it passes through the Gilgit-Baltistan region in Pakistan occupied Kashmir (Azad Kashmir) claimed by India. Beijing has shown scant regard for India's concerns despite PM Narendra Modi himself having taken up the issue of Chinese involvement in the disputed territory with President Xi Jinping.

Moscow last month emphatically denied Pakistan media reports that it was looking to involve itself in CPEC by acquiring access to the port built by China at Gwadar. Russia's ambassador to Pakistan Alexey Y Dedov has now been quoted as saying that Russia and Pakistan have held discussions to merge Moscow's Eurasian Economic Union project with the CPEC.

Dedov said Russia "strongly" supported CPEC as it was important for Pakistan's economy and also regional connectivity.

The mixed signals emanating from Moscow, as strategic affairs expert Brahma Chellaney said, are injecting uncertainty in the direction of the Russia-India relationship whose trajectory long epitomized constancy and stability.

"It is as if Moscow no longer sees India as a reliable friend or partner. Indeed, by seeking common cause with India's regional adversaries — including by supporting the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor through internationally disputed territory and engaging with the Pakistan-backed Taliban — Russia is challenging India's core interests," said Chellaney.

India continues to officially maintain that it doesn't see any "downward trend" in relations with Russia even as it works behind the scenes to convince Moscow that Pakistan remained the fountainhead of terrorism in the region. For India though, Russia further queered the situation in Afghanistan by declaring that it regarded Afghan Taliban as a national military-political movement. Russia is looking to engage the Taliban apparently to defeat IS but, as the MEA spokesperson warned last week, India wants any engagement with Taliban to respect the internationally recognized red lines, including giving up violence and severing ties with al-Qaida.


The comments made by Dedov are only the latest in a series of Russian doublespeak on Pakistan this year. As it officially conveyed to Moscow, India was disturbed by Russia's decision to hold its first ever joint military exercise with Pakistan days after Uri terror strike which left 19 Indian soldiers dead. The Russians justified it by saying that the exercise was meant to help Pakistan deal with terrorism.

At the Brics Goa summit in October, Russia chose not to help India publicly name Pakistan based terrorist outfits like Lashkar and Jaish in the official declaration in the face of Chinese resistance.


Russia continues to insist that its ties with Pakistan will not come at India's cost. Asked about the Russia-Pakistan military exercise though, at the recent Heart of Asia conference, Russia's presidential envoy to Pakistan Zamir Kabulov said Moscow didn't complain about India's close cooperation with the US and so India also shouldn't complain about "much low level" of cooperation between Russia and Pakistan. India may or may not complain, but it's certainly watching with eyes wide open.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...india-on-tenterhooks/articleshow/56053869.cms

Smile Indians, Pakistan's isolation continues. !!!
 
So what if Russia joins CPEC, in whatever capacity? Modi and friends need to just chill. They are conflating economic interests with strategic ones. Even India will be using CPEC to ship goods to and from China.

India needs to accept the fact that Russia is becoming like the United States, in that it will have separate relations with both India and Pakistan.
 


Ha...very dear Jammer,

Looks like reverse isolation gear in full swing! The eastern hegemon will remain in the dust of south asian plains...forever.


Onwards we move...roads we build.

We have new world to create, my friends!


You keep giving them the Gusts of your Great Winds....the delusionals need that.

CPEC/OBOR + EEU = A New World Order.


SPF
 
But the indians are kings as they purchase billions in arms from them! thus the proprietor is at the helm of the customers wishes

Mere signaling by Russia as India grows closer to Russia. This project has very little value for China itself. It's more like a jhunjhuna China has given the Pakistanis. It's actually a very
you didn't finish your sentence! I mean the way moohdhi ji ran to China to oppose the project one didn't think this project was merely a jhunjhuna
 
Ha...very dear Jammer,

Looks like reverse isolation gear in full swing! The eastern hegemon will remain in the dust of south asian plains...forever.


Onwards we move...roads we build.

We have new world to create, my friends!


You keep giving them the Gusts of your Great Winds....the delusionals need that.

CPEC/OBOR + EEU = A New World Order.


SPF
My dear, one could give several examples here, like fortune favours the brave, patience is a virtue or as in the case of our Eastern neighbour, dogs may chase after a car but they can never stop it.....however my favourite is an old Chinese proverb.....The Oxen may be slow but the earth is patience.
 
My dear, one could give several examples here, like fortune favours the brave, patience is a virtue or as in the case of our Eastern neighbour, dogs may chase after a car but they can never stop it.....however my favourite is an old Chinese proverb.....The Oxen may be slow but the earth is patience.

If have time...read about Sun Wukong...this little story conveys the essence of Chinese character.

Let me know when you have read it.

In the mean...one stone at a time... we must build the new world. World of Peace, Development and Harmony.
 
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But the indians are kings as they purchase billions in arms from them! thus the proprietor is at the helm of the customers wishes

you didn't finish your sentence! I mean the way moohdhi ji ran to China to oppose the project one didn't think this project was merely a jhunjhuna

Russia has gone down in value as an arms supplier as far as India is concerned. India is now venturing into far more advanced and valuable tech like joint development and Nuclear power plants.

As far as opposition is concerned. Of course we oppose it. It's detrimental to our interests (it's another matter that it's detrimental to Pakistan's interests too, something which we couldn't care less about). Not to mention it passes through the disputed territory of Kashmir thereby diluting Pakistan's legal case of Kashmir (which anyways was down the sink) a lot more than ever.
 
Mere signaling by Russia as India grows closer to America. This project has very little value for China itself. It's more like a jhunjhuna China has given the Pakistanis. It's actually a very smart move by the Chinese for themselves. They've bought the Pakistanis for much cheaper than the Americans ever did and possibly, for much longer. You can't get such a big nuclear armed army to do your bidding for any cheaper than this. China hasn't invested in CPEC, any kid with a peanut sized brain can see this thing has no value whatsoever, China has invested in buying an army for itself. Smart move for them.
Thank you for proving the point that the Jhunjhuna meant for Pakistan is making Indians swing from trees making an awful racket.....
 
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Russia has gone down in value as an arms supplier as far as India is concerned. India is now venturing into far more advanced and valuable tech like joint development and Nuclear power plants.

As far as opposition is concerned. Of course we oppose it. It's detrimental to our interests (it's another matter that it's detrimental to Pakistan's interests too, something which we couldn't care less about). Not to mention it passes through the disputed territory of Kashmir thereby diluting Pakistan's legal case of Kashmir (which anyways was down the sink) a lot more than ever.
yes yes it is a pointless project a jhunjhuan or whatever that is not beneficial to Pakistan. Russians are imbeciles and indians can think for them! thanks for your input
 
Not to mention it passes through the disputed territory of Kashmir thereby diluting Pakistan's legal case of Kashmir (which anyways was down the sink) a lot more than ever.


Really? Care to explain how?


Last time I checked no Indian flags were ever waved in Azad Kashmir...IOK on the other hand...




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Your welcome sweetheart. Nothing makes me happier than seeing Pakistan do what its doing presently.
Well heart burn honey, since CPEC is just a rattle or as you put it Jhunjhuna and Russian arms are of no value. I guess it just leaves Incredible India to start shining with make in India, while forget Russia or China, even Pakistan is manufacturing and co-producing and exporting basic and intermediate trainers and fighter jets, India OTOH, which had own projects in the 50s and 60s is now forced to import even something like PC-7, which first flew in 1966.....so along with other terminologies, Reverse India wouldn't be exactly out of place.....
 
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Well heart burn honey, since CPEC is just a rattle or as you put it Jhunjhuna and Russian arms are of no value. I guess it just leaves Incredible India to start shining with make in India, while forget Russia or China, even Pakistan is manufacturing and co-producing and exporting basic and intermediate trainers and fighter jets, India OTOH, which had own projects in the 50s and 60s is now forced to import even something like PC-7, which first flew in 1966.....so along with other terminologies, Reverse India wouldn't be exactly out of place.....

Ouch, that hurts! :flame:

Mere signaling by Russia as India grows closer to America. This project has very little value for China itself. It's more like a jhunjhuna China has given the Pakistanis. It's actually a very smart move by the Chinese for themselves. They've bought the Pakistanis for much cheaper than the Americans ever did and possibly, for much longer. You can't get such a big nuclear armed army to do your bidding for any cheaper than this. China hasn't invested in CPEC, any kid with a peanut sized brain can see this thing has no value whatsoever, China has invested in buying an army for itself. Smart move for them.

An Indian talking about "peanut sized brains" has got to be the height of tautology and pleonasm. :laugh:

Indians most ‘ignorant’ people on the planet: survey

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1264172/indians-ignorant-people-planet-survey/
 
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