Russian Coast Guard Fires At Chinese Fishing Vessel

[Martian2]

Aren't you enjoying Martian2's "yoo-haa-dang-dang"?

My views are perfectly reasonable.

NATO doesn't like Russia and it's building a missile shield along the western border of Russia.

Russians seem to like shooting Chinese fishermen.

We know China has a very active anti-ballistic missile program. China might as well build a missile shield along the southern border of Russia.

China and the United States can huddle together and decide where to go from there. The U.S. wants to neutralize the Russian threat to Europe permanently. China's tired of Russians shooting at Chinese. Why not finish off the Russians?

Of the troika (America, China, and Russia), Russia is the weakest with the least reliable weapon systems. Let's take the trigger-happy weak sister off the chessboard.

 

[KingMamba]

$50 trillion is achievable. China's GDP will be $8 trillion this year. After one double, it's $16 trillion. After another double, it's $32 trillion. On the third double it's $64 trillion.

Using the rule of 72 for compounded gain, assuming a growth rate of 7% per year and 3% currency appreciation, China's GDP will double in 7.2 years. It would have quadrupled in 14.4 years.

China should have a $32 trillion GDP by 2027. $50 trillion is within reach.

For this year, China will consume about five times more electricity (5,000 TeraWatt-hours) than Russia (1,000 TeraWatt-hours). At some point, Russia starts looking like a midget.

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Nixon's detente with China was aimed at the Soviet Union. The U.S. supplied Stingers and China supplied Kalashnikovs during the Soviet-Afghan War of 1979-1989. The Saudis supplied the cash. By 1991, the Soviet Union collapsed.

You forgot the Pakistanis provided training and on occasion men.

My views are perfectly reasonable.

NATO doesn't like Russia and it's building a missile shield along the western border of Russia.

Russians seem to like shooting Chinese fishermen.

We know China has a very active anti-ballistic missile program. China might as well build a missile shield along the southern border of Russia.

China and the United States can huddle together and decide where to go from there. The U.S. wants to neutralize the Russian threat to Europe permanently. China's tired of Russians shooting at Chinese. Why not finish off the Russians?

Of the troika (America, China, and Russia), Russia is the weakest with the least reliable weapon systems. Let's take the trigger-happy weak sister off the chessboard.

It is more likely that Russia and China join hands in the future to counter NATO. The SCO will probably be the platform for this.

 

[Martian2]

You forgot the Pakistanis provided training and on occasion men.

My apology. Pakistan was absolutely crucial to toppling the Soviet Union.

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At KingMamba, if the Russians keep shooting at Chinese fishermen then we're going to have problems. If the Russians can't behave in a civilized manner, the Chinese leadership will eventually move toward the West and plot against the Russians.

I'm simply saying that China, U.S., Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia all colluded against the Soviet Union. It could happen again if the Chinese populace becomes unhappy at trigger-happy Russians.

I remember the U.S. coast guard or navy chasing Chinese fishermen across half the world. As I recall, they did not open fire.

Opening fire engenders hard feelings and an obvious desire for retaliation. Let me take a look at those Qing Dynasty maps again.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Why ?

Isnt this a valid news ?

It is the truth, but it also gonna generate a lot of flamebaits, so there is a valid reason to close it.

 

[KingMamba]

My apology. Pakistan was absolutely crucial to toppling the Soviet Union.

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At KingMamba, if the Russians keep shooting at Chinese fishermen then we're going to have problems. If the Russians can't behave in a civilized manner, the Chinese leadership will eventually move toward the West and plot against the Russians.

Eastern countries should never trust the West. On one hand they will collaborate with you while on the other they will plot your demise. China should tread lightly worry about the little people snapping at their feet in the SCS for now.

 

[Martian2]

Eastern countries should never trust the West. On one hand they will collaborate with you while on the other they will plot your demise. China should tread lightly worry about the little people snapping at their feet in the SCS for now.

China is not naive. China cooperates with the West to achieve its strategic goals. The Chinese policy has consistently been cooperation with the United States. That's never going to change.

China and the United States hold annual discussions on Strategic and Economic Dialogue. No such exchange has ever occurred with the Soviet Union or Russia. Even today, China is a lot closer to the U.S. then Russia.

This is a three-way triangle. Last time, the U.S. and China brought down the Soviet Union. Today, China and the U.S. are feeling each other out to figure out the proper accommodation.

However, if Russians keep shooting Chinese then average Chinese like myself will become angry. The Russians killed an unarmed Chinese skipper a few years ago. Now, they're opening fire again. The Americans also remember the Russians downing a South Korean airliner with Americans onboard. Then there was the incident where BeloRussia opened fire on an American balloonist.

My observation is China and the United States seem to have a common problem.

 

[Audio]

NATO doesn't like Russia and it's building a missile shield along the western border of Russia.

It's ultimate form will protect Russia as well.

Russians seem to like shooting Chinese fishermen.

Nobody likes tresspasers that steal.

We know China has a very active anti-ballistic missile program. China might as well build a missile shield along the southern border of Russia.

China and the United States can huddle together and decide where to go from there. The U.S. wants to neutralize the Russian threat to Europe permanently. China's tired of Russians shooting at Chinese. Why not finish off the Russians?

Except theres no threat, even closer ties through trade and weapons/space development. Reality dont fit into your illusion, dawg.

Of the troika (America, China, and Russia), Russia is the weakest with the least reliable weapon systems. Let's take the trigger-happy weak sister off the chessboard.

Best to enlist in the PLA now!

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

My apology. Pakistan was absolutely crucial to toppling the Soviet Union.

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At KingMamba, if the Russians keep shooting at Chinese fishermen then we're going to have problems. If the Russians can't behave in a civilized manner, the Chinese leadership will eventually move toward the West and plot against the Russians.

I'm simply saying that China, U.S., Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia all colluded against the Soviet Union. It could happen again if the Chinese populace becomes unhappy at trigger-happy Russians.

I remember the U.S. coast guard or navy chasing Chinese fishermen across half the world. As I recall, they did not open fire.

Opening fire engenders hard feelings and an obvious desire for retaliation. Let me take a look at those Qing Dynasty maps again.

Is this Mitt Romney's true thought about Russia?

If it is true, then it gonna be interesting if he can get elected.

‘Russia is Public Enemy No. 1’ – Mitt Romney — RT

 

[Audio]

China and the United States hold annual discussions on Strategic and Economic Dialogue. No such exchange has ever occurred with the Soviet Union or Russia. Even today, China is a lot closer to the U.S. then Russia.

Worlds factory status helps. But it doesnt grant miracles. US is pretty aware now of China's expansionistic drive, the sooner Russkies get with the programme the better.

 

[Martian2]

I've made it quite clear the American coast guard or navy does not open fire on trespassing Chinese fishermen.

The Russians have fast naval warships, you can either chase them down or let them go. If they keep opening fire, I will be the first to join the U.S. military to fight the Russians in Eastern Europe. You have my word on it.

 

[Audio]

I've made it quite clear the American coast guard or navy does not open fire on trespassing Chinese fishermen. The Russians have fast naval warships, you can either chase them down or let them go. If they keep opening fire, I will be the first to join the U.S. military to fight the Russians in Eastern Europe. You have my word on it.

I think you will enlist in the PLA when they attempt to liberate Siberia lol. Propaganda ministry will need people with skills at skewing the truth.

 

[Martian2]

Is this Mitt Romney's true thought about Russia?

If it is true, then it gonna be interesting if he can get elected.

‘Russia is Public Enemy No. 1’ – Mitt Romney — RT

The Republicans know they can do business with China. They can't get anywhere with Russia.

I know this sounds strange, but the Neo-cons trust China a lot more in comparison to the Russians.

China will not block vital American interests. China has never solely vetoed an American proposal at the U.N. Security Council. That speaks volumes about Sino-American cooperation.

Have you noticed the number of prominent American companies selling billions of dollars of goods in China? Did you notice IBM wrote off its 600 million dollar investment in Russia and left the country? The U.S. can trust China and vice versa. Neither country trusts the Russians.

 

[kawaraj]

If the US , the west and China want to dismember a hostile Russia, always remember Japan is happy into the game.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The Republicans know they can do business with China. They can't get anywhere with Russia.

I know this sounds strange, but the Neo-cons trust China a lot more in comparison to the Russians.

China will not block vital American interests. China has never solely vetoed an American proposal at the U.N. Security Council. That speaks volumes about Sino-American cooperation.

Have you noticed the number of prominent American companies selling billions of dollars of goods in China? Did you notice IBM wrote off its 600 million dollar investment in Russia and left the country? The U.S. can trust China and vice versa. Neither country trusts the Russians.

This is Romney's opinion about China back in 2007 when he didn't have the election pressure to pander the majority of the American voters who are mostly the middle class and the poor.

I think this is most likely his true natural opinion as a pragmatic businessman.

Mitt Romney's position on China - YouTube

 

[Martian2]

The Russians do not understand the first rule of co-existence. You do not fire on the members of other powerful countries. No one cares about trade or anything else. Firing on citizens of other countries inflames the other side. We want to even the score.

This was evidenced by President George W. Bush pointing his fingers at the North Koreans and vociferously denouncing the killing of two American soldiers chopping down a tree branch on the DMZ decades ago.

We only remember the horrific shootings and killings.

The Russians are accumulating a nasty record against Chinese fishermen and I'll enjoy shooting at some of those Russian pricks when the U.S. military gives me a chance.

I won't volunteer for Iraq, which I think is mostly about oil. However, I'll be the first in line to volunteer against the Russians. They've made me unhappy and I'll like to try my marksmanship against those trigger-happy losers.