Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments

[FairAndUnbiased]

No, I'll bet that free societies will eventually outlive authoritarian regimes in one form or other. It is simply difficult to keep the mind control going through generations. Eventually the system will relax its restrictions at some time and that will result in a breakdown. Soviet Union is a good example.

Technical supremacy or wealth is not specifically tied to system of government. Germans had good tech. under Hitler and they have it now as a free society as well.

Depends on how you define free or authoritarian. Many Chinese view India as an autocratic tyranny and Russia as a free country.

In India there's no freedom to do what you want in everyday life. You are constrained by religion, caste, poverty, tradition and crime. You have to watch where you go, who you talk to and what you say.

Meanwhile in Russia what restrictions are there in everyday life? You can eat what you want, do what you want, mostly say what you want within reason. And the things you can't say, you can't really say in India either.

 

[thetutle]

Yes ive realised that. Especially regarding casualties.

Best to wait 2-3 years from when the war is over, to finally get some truth

noone will ever disclose. but we can make educated guesses. Russia is 10-15k. Ukraine maybe 25k.

in the long run it doesn't matter. No side will run out of soldiers. They will run out of money first.

 

[nang2]

In India there's no freedom to do what you want in everyday life. You are constrained by religion, caste, poverty, tradition and crime. You have to watch where you go, who you talk to and what you say.

The key question here is not whether you are constrained by something. Everyone is constrained by something. The key is whether that something constrains you with violence or threat of violence.

 

[dBSPL]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1507037270502739975

https://twitter.com/x/status/1507041850829512716

 

[thetutle]

Depends on how you define free or authoritarian. Many Chinese view India as an autocratic tyranny and Russia as a free country.

In India there's no freedom to do what you want in everyday life. You are constrained by religion, caste, poverty, tradition and crime. You have to watch where you go, who you talk to and what you say.

Meanwhile in Russia what restrictions are there in everyday life? You can eat what you want, do what you want, mostly say what you want within reason. And the things you can't say, you can't really say in India either.

Thats a great point. Russia is a more free country than India. In russia you can have a beef burger and go out with a hindu woman without being set on fire.

Thats a sad indictment on India.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

The key question here is not whether you are constrained by something. Everyone is constrained by something. The key is whether that something constrains you with violence or threat of violence.

You mean this?

From sitting on a chair to riding a bike, Dalits are attacked for the smallest of reasons | India News - Times of India

India News: Innocuous actions, from sitting on a chair to riding a bike, have invited upper-caste wrath on Dalits who feel the latter need to be "shown their righ

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

This?

Mob beats Dalit man for touching bike belonging to upper-caste man in Karnataka

www.deccanherald.com

How about this?

Man in Tamil Nadu attacked for eating beef, four men arrested

At 3.18 pm on Thursday, 24-year-old Mohamed Fisan, a resident of Perumal Koil street in Keevaloor, Nagapattinam, posted a picture of him eating curry on Faceboo

www.thenewsminute.com

Or this?

India's Supreme Court steps in after Hindu leaders call for violence against Muslims

Video from a meeting in northern India shows Hindu leaders calling for attacks on Muslims. The crowd included politicians with ties to Prime Minister Modi. Two men have been arrested for hate speech.

www.npr.org

Maybe this?

Inside Delhi: beaten, lynched and burnt alive

After riots left more than 40 dead in the Indian capital, we visit homes and hospitals to examine the consequences of the religious hatred stoked by a nationalist government

www.theguardian.com

 

[Vergennes]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1506890621675524096

 

[Hydration]

Just imagine how much money the defence companies are making right now!

hezbollah style greece in arabic pfp? thats weird

 

[thetutle]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1506890621675524096

a stable genius. like his friend.

 

[nang2]

You mean this?

From sitting on a chair to riding a bike, Dalits are attacked for the smallest of reasons | India News - Times of India

India News: Innocuous actions, from sitting on a chair to riding a bike, have invited upper-caste wrath on Dalits who feel the latter need to be "shown their righ

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

This?

Mob beats Dalit man for touching bike belonging to upper-caste man in Karnataka

www.deccanherald.com

How about this?

Man in Tamil Nadu attacked for eating beef, four men arrested

At 3.18 pm on Thursday, 24-year-old Mohamed Fisan, a resident of Perumal Koil street in Keevaloor, Nagapattinam, posted a picture of him eating curry on Faceboo

www.thenewsminute.com

Or this?

India's Supreme Court steps in after Hindu leaders call for violence against Muslims

Video from a meeting in northern India shows Hindu leaders calling for attacks on Muslims. The crowd included politicians with ties to Prime Minister Modi. Two men have been arrested for hate speech.

www.npr.org

Maybe this?

Inside Delhi: beaten, lynched and burnt alive

After riots left more than 40 dead in the Indian capital, we visit homes and hospitals to examine the consequences of the religious hatred stoked by a nationalist government

www.theguardian.com

That is right. Violence unchecked by the law is equal to the violence in the name of the law.

I am curious to see if you can find such examples about the poverty you listed before.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

That is right. Violence unchecked by the law is equal to the violence in the name of the law.

I am curious to see if you can find such examples about the poverty you listed before.

You mean freedom constrained by poverty? Sure. I covered violence, caste and religion so let's do poverty.

There are more modern-day slaves living in India than anywhere else on Earth - The World from PRX

Many of them are women and children being sold into the sex trade.

theworld.org

Confined, beaten and denied leave - but not seen as a slave in India

Tens of thousands of slavery survivors in India who were confined, abused and exploited at work are denied compensation because officials are often ignorant of the law - with police sending 60 workers they rescued home empty-handed this week.

www.reuters.com

This is what it means to be poor in India today

My country’s growing wealth hasn’t trickled down. Just ask Amina, who lives in a slum in the shadow of one of India’s glitziest shopping malls.

www.cnn.com

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2021/04/india-covid19-moral-failure/618702/

India is home to the world’s largest slave population (Yes, slavery still exists)

In the past, the desire for sugar drove the growth in slavery. Today, the global consumption of electronic goods is the primary culprit.

scroll.in

 

[dBSPL]

Italian Prime Minister Draghi: "We have decided to make the group between Turkey, France and Italy functional again. We will start tripartite talks soon"

While Russia is increasing its pressure on Europe, it is also creating a geopolitics that accelerates Turkey's breaking the ice with the EU.

If Turkey can be included in the Pesco programs as well as re-operating the bilateral and tripartite mechanisms with France and Italy; The 'anti-Turkey bloc' design that some regional factors are trying to shape against Turkey will have completely collapsed. One of the most important outputs of the Russia-Ukraine war is that Turkey has created the opportunity to reshape some issues in its region.

 

[nang2]

You mean freedom constrained by poverty? Sure. I covered violence, caste and religion so let's do poverty.

There are more modern-day slaves living in India than anywhere else on Earth - The World from PRX

Many of them are women and children being sold into the sex trade.

theworld.org

Confined, beaten and denied leave - but not seen as a slave in India

Tens of thousands of slavery survivors in India who were confined, abused and exploited at work are denied compensation because officials are often ignorant of the law - with police sending 60 workers they rescued home empty-handed this week.

www.reuters.com

This is what it means to be poor in India today

My country’s growing wealth hasn’t trickled down. Just ask Amina, who lives in a slum in the shadow of one of India’s glitziest shopping malls.

www.cnn.com

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2021/04/india-covid19-moral-failure/618702/

India is home to the world’s largest slave population (Yes, slavery still exists)

In the past, the desire for sugar drove the growth in slavery. Today, the global consumption of electronic goods is the primary culprit.

scroll.in

That is the consequence of being poor. But does poverty employ violence to force people act that way?

 

[Tamerlane]

Italian Prime Minister Draghi: "We have decided to make the group between Turkey, France and Italy functional again. We will start tripartite talks soon"

While Russia is increasing its pressure on Europe, it is also creating a geopolitics that accelerates Turkey's breaking the ice with the EU.

If Turkey can be included in the Pesco programs as well as re-operating the bilateral and tripartite mechanisms with France and Italy; The 'anti-Turkey bloc' design that some regional factors are trying to shape against Turkey will have completely collapsed.

Does that mean that they’re going to finally accept Turkey in EU?

 

[dBSPL]

Does that mean that they’re going to finally accept Turkey in EU?

No, what I am talking about is not full membership to the EU. After this point, Turkey never wants to limit itself to the EU.