Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments

[Zhukov]

nothing will happen to western Europe except 1 very important fact: they won't be thinking too much about Pakistan. That is great news because for the first time in 20+ years, Pakistan is no longer going to bear the burden of war.

We dont want them to think for us. As long as they keep buying our Bed sheets , Kids suits , Curtains , Leather shoes , Mangoes , Rice , TShirts , Hoodies etc. And their big brands keep outsourcing the manufacturing process to our Industries in Sialkot Karachi Faisalabad and Lahore.
Thats the Bottom line. As long as Russia China USA or any other country can replace that big source of Income for us , Europe is irreplaceable for us. There Unique Markets of Big margins with medium quantity orders is very good for middle scale industry of Pakistan.
For Example My home City Faisalabad is like 70% dependemt on Italy Spain France UK and Germany for its Exports based Industry that is in turn a massive source of employment for people upto South Punjab.

 

[Ali_Baba]

In the long term Russia can work around SWIFT, its just going to be much more costly and difficult, Iran managed it. But its the Russian bank sanctions that are actually more damaging to the Russian economy, even those sanctions already actioned let alone further sanctions against the Russian central bank.

Yes - and no. Given the size of the Russian overseas trade - who is going to want to trade with Russia if it does not have access to a guaranteed payment framework? At this rate - Russia maybe forced to trade via barter trade and even then for a smaller segment of its economy.

there are 2 parties to a trade .. and the none russian party would have to make the decision to conduct deals with russian companies without the financial guarantees a payment system like swift offers.

additionally - will china allows it payment system to be used to "bust" western sanctions? It could make the chinese system the target of sanctions aswell/restrictions if russians switch over to it? I dont know of course, but i dont think it is as simple as saying that they can switch to a chinese system.

you should not understate the effect of the sanctions on the russian central bank or swift on the russian economy. they will take a few weeks to kick in, but they will.

 

[maverick1977]

Street to street fighting reported in Kharkiv. Last night was not good for Ukranian forces. Also, the effect of their crippled supply lines and depots are showing up on all fronts

 

[RescueRanger]

There is serious fighting now in the town of Bucha in the district of Irpin 22 KM from Kyiv City Centre.

 

[Iñigo]

"What is this enthusiaism in So many Pakistani members for a Russian Attack on Europe?"

"Attack" (!?)

Counterattack, Pushing back the bullying fanatic

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[EasyNow]

There's something fishy. She ( Tulsi Gabbard ) is an ardent supporter of the right-wing Modi government in India and is a keen bridge between that government and the American establishment. Why is she talking here against the Ukranian government ? She said all that but didn't once mention the Ukranian government's links with a Nazi militia ( Azov Battalion ) and its other wings. That is a deliberate non-mention. She has been instructed by the establishment to make excuses for the American military not being in action in Ukraine against the Russian.

I'm sorry but you are going to witness the reality of hard socialism now. It is nothing but a pretext for mass control.

We are going back to the Orwellian era of secret police and state tyranny again - all under the cheering watch of the world's caring, loving socialists.

After the Russian transformation of Ukraine occurs, you can look back and decide what was a better way of life. The democratic, capitalist West centric one or this new one.

 

[RescueRanger]

What is this enthusiaism in So many Pakistani members for a Russian Attack on Europe?.

What are you even talking about? This is a defence forum and people are making observations just like people are doing all over the world!

 

[jaybird]

Not a single one refusing cigarette. Smoking rate must be very high in Ukraine.

Maybe the question was asked before the camera shot was: " You want to take a cigarette or a bullet?

 

[Iñigo]

The situation was heading towards a major war in Europe that could end in a nuclear confrontation.

The Russian ruling class with its grave and unpleasant and rational decision has saved us from a dreadful future in Europe.

 

[jamahir]

RIP

Why do you want to be sad over the death of a Nazi ?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1497863204545961984

Maybe the Russians should get Syrian tank soldiers because the Syrians have to fight off NATO-supported "Syrian" "moderate" "rebel" terrorists in similar urban circumstances.

What is this enthusiaism in So many Pakistani members for a Russian Attack on Europe?.
If anything happens to western europe our puny Export based industry will be dead literally. UK Spain Italy France Germany are the major Net-Export partners for our medium sized exporters.
Russia is irrelevant for our Economy. They are neither our major Export nor Import Partner.
Make an opinnion objectively.

Do you always look for things in selfish and disconnected manner ? Look at actions of Russia in a human manner, in a decent manner. Russia has legitimate issues with the Ukrainian government and military. All NATO imperialism anywhere should be defeated. That is the rational and human thing to seek.

I'm sorry but you are going to witness the reality of hard socialism now. It is nothing but a pretext for mass control.

We are going back to the Orwellian era of secret police and state tyranny again - all under the cheering watch of the world's caring, loving socialists.

After the Russian transformation of Ukraine occurs, you can look back and decide what was a better way of life. The democratic, capitalist West centric one or this new one.

For the last 11 years at least aren't the people of Libya, Syria and Venezuela either trying to go back to their Socialist times or defend their Socialist societies ? Even the biased UNO has put in document that the Socialist system of war-torn Syria has better socio-economic facilities given to its citizens than South Asia including my own "Sixth largest economy in the world" India.

 

[Ali_Baba]

I wonder what Russia is going to do about the AT/MANPADS being sent over from the Polish border. If they don’t air strike the convoys transporting them, they’re screwed. Otherwise, they could destroy bridges across the Dnieper to cut off Ukrainian resupplies.

Manpads, anti-tank weapons can be transported using donkeys over the border - it does not need bridges or roads as they are small weapons. The border with Poland is large - so pratically - there is nothing russia can do about the transfer of these types of weapons to ukraine.

 

[Vergennes]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1497878572056420357

 

[Enigma SIG]

I'm sorry but you are going to witness the reality of hard socialism now. It is nothing but a pretext for mass control.

We are going back to the Orwellian era of secret police and state tyranny again - all under the cheering watch of the world's caring, loving socialists.

After the Russian transformation of Ukraine occurs, you can look back and decide what was a better way of life. The democratic, capitalist West centric one or this new one.

Tell that to Snowden lol.

 

[EasyNow]

The situation was heading towards a major war in Europe that could end in a nuclear confrontation.

The Russian ruling class with its grave and unpleasant and rational decision has saved us from a dreadful future in Europe.

Can you explain what dreadful future you mean?

 

[RescueRanger]

A Ukranian civillian gets caught in the cross-fire between Russian and Ukranian forces in Kharkiv.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1497879947888799745