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If Muslims are doing the same throughout their history, which was done by the Empires before them, then what is the difference between them?

You are only putting the blame of those Empires of the past upon the shoulders of the present-day Secular Humanist Western movement.

This secular humanist movement is against the French invasion and it's crimes, but you are blaming this movement to be criminal. This movement is against the Israeli invasion, but you are blaming this movement for this invasion.

And this movement is against the genocide of Muslims and it is against the slavery, and it is against the rape of women, but you are putting the blame of all these things upon this movement.

You don't want to hear about humanity????

With this behaviour, you are only putting a knife in the back of this secular humanist movement who wants to hug every human including Muslims.



You want to know about the consequences?
The consequences were this that the Muslim women were not raped when British and Europe defeated all the Muslim countries and colonized them.
The consequences were that they didn't loot the last nail and didn't turn their children into slaves.

Are these enough consequences, or do you want to know more consequences?
they defeated Muslims because Muslims were divided , if they did theses things Muslim would have become united against them .......



don't just tell half side of the story
 
Are you a child? Using a system devised by a country whose interests align more closely with yours is slavery?

In that case, is everybody who uses any Western system a Western slave? Are you a Western slave because you benefit from social insurance and mostly free healthcare in Canada?

The bias by some people here - especially the self-proclaimed enlightened ones - is astonishing.
Lol, if you read my comments from the beginning, I explained pretty much everything, and so far, it's going exactly like I explained.

Russia's economy is in shambles, and they have only one nation to turn to, China.

China isn't stupid, they'll use this opportunity to turn Russia into a junior partner, basically "do as we say, or your economy is fucked".

Russia joining the Chinese SWIFT alternative is basically step 2, with step 1 being Russia signing major gas deals with the Chinese to offset the chance the Europeans cut off Russian gas. All that's left is China pouring money into Russia's central bank either directly or indirectly, and it's pretty much over for Russia.

But of course you won't care about what I wrote. The fact that you had to resort to calling me a child is quite telling, and makes me laugh.
 

It was first... Ukraine is the third country occupied by Russia in the Black Sea.

A unilateral declaration of independence has already been made long before, under the protection of Russian soldiers. Even with regard to the Ukrainian war, it was said that the Russian troops in this region would support the Ukranian occupation. One of Russia's strategic goals is to get Transnistria out of the enclaved situation, either by subjugating Ukraine completely or dividing it on a north/south axis.
I don't understand why Turks are bouncing up and down so much? In the end they won't let you into EU club cuz y'all muslim man.
 
If Muslims are doing the same throughout their history, which was done by the Empires before them, then what is the difference between them?

You are only putting the blame of those Empires of the past upon the shoulders of the present-day Secular Humanist Western movement.

This secular humanist movement is against the French invasion and it's crimes, but you are blaming this movement to be criminal. This movement is against the Israeli invasion, but you are blaming this movement for this invasion.

And this movement is against the genocide of Muslims and it is against the slavery, and it is against the rape of women, but you are putting the blame of all these things upon this movement.

You don't want to hear about humanity????

With this behaviour, you are only putting a knife in the back of this secular humanist movement who wants to hug every human including Muslims.
I never said Muslims did the same things as the westerners, you're putting words in my mouth. They did conquer, but they never pillaged, rape or genocided like the westerners did or still do today. Even the slave trade of the Muslim under Muhammad was a far cry from the brutal slave conditions by the western colonisers which was still a thing in America in living memory! Please do not compare Islam with the west. Islam is more humanistic than the west.

You also cant brush the magnitude and multitude of western crimes under the rug under the notion of "we all do bad things". No, the crimes of the west are beyond bad and what makes it even more criminal is they try to hide it with fake virtue signalling or saving dogs in Afghanistan when poor Afghans who gave up their identity for the west are left behind. Not buying it!

Im just showing that the west has a knack for being a lot more brutal than the Muslims, and the historical evidence is clear to see. Humanists are hypocrites since you never hear them support Palestine or Muslims, they just critizise us and boast about taking our lands. We see right through the fakery. Humanists are virtue signallers.

Im not putting a knife in your back, that would imply me being two faced...rather I'm being upfront with you in that no westerner has the right to call themselves humanists especially those who profess a left wing liberal orientation. Fool me once, shame...shame on you lol...
 
Any Idea what timeline Russia has in mind? I believe Window is up till next winter November or December and what end goal Russia looking far?
I see 2-4 weeks around Kiev and then a slow drive across the country with a new pro-Russia government in Kiev. People who think that Ukraine will somehow be another "Afghanistan" are purely deluded. Firstly, there is 20%-30% Russian ethnic and mixed population and most importantly Ukraine is a soft corrupt society with no stomach for a long term insurgency. The Russians are now handling the campaign in a very surgical manner to minimize casualties for their own troops and the civilians. There are over 1500 trucks and tanks coming towards Kiev with large numbers of very motivated professional infantry, so it does not take much imagination to figure out the outcome. Russia will prevail, but unfortunately the Twitter and troll war will continue for a decade :mps:
 
Russia joining the Chinese SWIFT alternative is basically step 2, with step 1 being Russia signing major gas deals with the Chinese to offset the chance the Europeans cut off Russian gas. All that's left is China pouring money into Russia's central bank either directly or indirectly, and it's pretty much over for Russia.
And more than what you mentioned above,, In short, a new world order was born, China, is the heart of it and soon we will witness an Internet system that competes with the Americans, another financial system that does not depend on the dollar, and a banking system that does not depend on Swift alone, and an unannounced alliance in the face of the directions of the United States,Swift will lose big share of the market value
 

As Russia's Ukraine war intensifies, some warn nuclear escalation is possible​

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A 2020 test of a ground-based intercontinental ballistic missile from the Plesetsk facility in northwestern Russia. Russia has the world's largest nuclear arsenal.
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Over the weekend, Russian President Vladimir Putin gave orders to his nation's nuclear forces. On Monday, the U.S. said it would not respond with changes to its own nuclear posture.
"At this time we see no reason to change our own alert levels," White House press secretary Jen Psaki told reporters on Monday.
Some experts, though, are worried about the possibility of nuclear escalation. Here's why.

The exact meaning of Putin's order remains unclear​

In a brief clip, Putin is shown speaking to two stony-faced generals about the country's nuclear forces.
"He basically said, 'Because of all these hostile or aggressive statements and aggressive policies, we should start this special mode of combat duty of our deterrent forces,'" says Pavel Podvig, a senior researcher at the United Nations Institute for Disarmament Research in Geneva.
It's unclear what a "special mode of combat duty" actually is. One possibility, says Podvig, is that the order activated the nation's nuclear command and control system.
"Normally, in peacetime, the command and control system is configured in a way that makes the transmission of an actual command very much impossible," he says. "It's like you could press the button, but then nothing happens, because the button is not connected to anything."
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Putin's order may have meant he wanted the button activated.
Then again, it may not.
Podvig says a follow-up statement from the Russian Ministry of Defense implied it may just mean upping the staffing at facilities that support nuclear weapons. It could be "they just added a few more people to the crews," Podvig says.

Russia has a lot of nuclear weapons at the ready​

Russia has more nuclear weapons than any other nation on Earth, according to Hans Kristensen, director of the nuclear information project at the Federation of American Scientists.
"We estimate that they have about 4,500 or so nuclear warheads in their military stockpile," he says.
For now, Russia's largest nuclear weapons — aboard its submarines, bombers and intercontinental ballistic missiles — appear to be at their usual level of alert, Kristensen says. But the nation's stockpile also includes nearly 2,000 so-called tactical nuclear weapons, which are kept in storage facilities throughout Russia.
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Russia's Iskander missile system is currently being used in the conflict in Ukraine. It can launch both conventional missiles and battlefield nuclear weapons.
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"They were developed for the purpose of fighting a limited regional battle. Sort of a nuclear war in a very small area," says Kristensen.
The U.S. has about 100 nuclear bombs stationed across Europe that could be used for tactical nuclear warfare.
The Kremlin's battlefield weapons can be launched on the same short-range missiles Russia is currently using to bombard Ukraine, such as its Iskander ballistic missile.
Right now, there's no indication that the battlefield nukes have been pulled out of storage.

Russia says it would use nuclear weapons only as a last resort, but some are skeptical​

Russia officially says it would use nuclear weapons only if the nation's very survival was at risk. But not everyone thinks its nuclear rules are so clear-cut.
"A lot of people have questioned whether the bar for Russian nuclear use is as high as its official statements say," says Olga Oliker with the International Crisis Group.
In 2018, the Pentagon's nuclear posture review warned that Russia might use a battlefield nuke to "'de-escalate' a conflict on terms favorable to Russia." In other words, Russia might detonate a smaller weapon to get its opponents to back off.
That statement was somewhat controversial among arms control experts at the time. Oliker believes such action would only possibly happen in a direct war with NATO forces.
In the current conflict with Ukraine, "I think it's very unlikely that Moscow is just going to lob a nuclear weapon at something," she says. "Obviously it's been a week when a lot of people's assumptions have been challenged, but I'll cling to this one for a while."

The risk of miscalculation is higher than it's been in years​

Putin's latest statements may amount to little more than nuclear saber-rattling, says Jeffrey Lewis, a senior scholar at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies at Monterey.
"Putin has had a pretty bad-news week," he says. "The Ukrainian army is fighting back, which he didn't expect. The Russian army is performing dreadfully. They are indiscriminately shelling civilian areas. Those things all make him look weak, and the best way to push those headlines down a little bit is a nuclear threat."
But Lewis says there is still plenty of nuclear risk. Putin has already miscalculated in his invasion of Ukraine.
"What would happen if the Russian warning system had a false alarm in the middle of a crisis like this?" he asks. "Would Putin know it was a false alarm? Or would he jump to the wrong conclusion?"
Even if the short-range battlefield nuclear weapons are still on the shelf, thousands of Russian and American long-range missiles are ready to launch in just minutes. That threat hangs over everything as the conflict in Ukraine drags on.
 
Dear friend, please try to understand the consequences for humanity for this behavior.
This means no voice for Rohingya Muslims from the West.
No voice against the fanatic Hindus of BJP against the Indian Muslims.
This also mean no voice against China for killing its Muslim population.

And the peak of this evil will be when even Muslim population in the West will be discriminated and killed and kicked out, then there will be no Voice left in the West against it.
There is never a voice for uncivilized Muslims so I don't know its a bit difficult to show humanity when there is none to be found when we are at the receiving end
 
Biden happy to see Russians stuck in the Quagmire, never seen him so happy?

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Biden pledges US forces "will not engage in the conflict with Russian forces in Ukraine"​

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President Joe Biden expressed solidarity with Ukrainian people in his State of the Union address on Tuesday -- but reiterated that the US would not deploy troops to Ukraine.
“Let each of us here tonight in this Chamber, if you’re able to stand, stand and send an unmistakable signal to Ukraine and to the world," he said -- receiving a loud standing ovation from the members, many of whom wore blue and yellow in support of Ukraine. Ukraine's Ambassador to the United States, Oksana Markarova, stood beside first lady Jill Biden as the chamber applauded, holding her country’s flag.
“We, the United States of America, stand with the Ukrainian people,” Biden said.
But he added:
“Let me be clear — our forces are not engaged and will not engage in the conflict with Russian forces in Ukraine," he told members of Congress gathered for his State of the Union address. American troops were deployed to Europe not to fight in Ukraine, “but to defend our NATO allies in the event that Putin decides to keep moving west," he said.
“For that purpose, we have mobilized American ground forces, air squadrons, ship deployments to protect NATO countries including Poland, Romania, Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia,” he added.
NATO's Article 5: Previously, Biden has said the US would hold fast to NATO’s Article 5 principle, which says that an attack on one NATO country is an attack on all member counties.
In Tuesday’s remarks, he pledged, “As I’ve made crystal clear, the United States and our Allies will defend every inch of territory of NATO countries with the full force of our collective power.”
He added that the US and its allies were providing “more than $1 billion in direct assistance to Ukraine,” including military, economic, and humanitarian aide.
Follow our live coverage of Biden's State of the Union address here.
 
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