Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments

[A.P. Richelieu]

That's SOP for the puppet masters. Even in colonial times, most of the killing was done by locally hired soldiers.

Does not change the picture a lot.

 

[WotTen]

Does not change the picture a lot.
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The whole mechanism to destroy a society is to flood it with guns and let the locals kill each other. If necessary, one or more local thugs are supported by the puppeteers.

There is a whole sociology about the prevalence of alcohol and gun shops in black neighborhoods across America.

 

[Apollon]

EU no longer needs oil or gas as it is going all electric.

EU already ended coal and oil from russia

 

[ZeGerman]

Severodonetsk pre war 110.000 population.

Russia “liberation” commences

Russia flattens city. 100.000 flee (vast majority towards western ukraine)

Russia conquers city.
Those staying are the few that are ok with “russki mir”

Russia shows these handfull, “look how happy they are with their russian liberators!”
Lets just ignore what is practically ethnic cleansing of the other 90%.

Rinse and repeat to any other town that shows resistance.

 

[mazeto]

Hmm.. Looks like pro-Russian posters are being selectively silenced while posters openly cheering selling of Russian bones as trophies are making merry. Guess it has got to be due to the downward trajectory of the Ukrainian military which cannot be papered over anymore.
The deja vu of the Syrian war is all over the place. A legit power vs a motivated gaggle of militias supplied by multitudes of countries. After initial reverses, the legit and cohesive power makes slow but consistent progress, grinding the extremists into the dust one village and one town at a time. The suppliers to the militias, like in Syria, is finally seeing the writing on the wall and starting to doubt themselves. Sooner or later they will slink away in the dark of night leaving the Ukros high and dry. But there won't be a Turkey this time to create an Idlib in Lviv.
Meanwhile Lithuania is doing a fine job of trying to provoke a fight between the NATO and Russia, and between EU and China.
If they continue to block Russian goods Russia can operate in the grey-zone: it's navy can do a " soft" blockade of Lithuanian ports by boarding random ships on suspicion of piracy or drug running.
* are there any Syrians helping Russia? If not it would be a great shame, the Russians gave their blood to save your ***. Or the Russian can use Hezbollah teams for sniping, ATGM roles etc with a quid pro quo.. they get captured NATO anti air and ATGMs!

 

[ZeGerman]

It turns out that 90-95% of those killed in ”Western” wars in the Middle East are killed by the locals themselves or Islamist Mercenaries.
Plenty of those civilians killed in the later years are killed in air strikes requested by the Iraqi Army.
To use your argumentation style:
The hypocricy of those blaming the West for their own actions is astounding.
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Let alone he is using a preliminary figure that its source itself states is an underrepresentation:

“OHCHR believes that the actual figures are considerably higher, as the receipt of information from some locations where intense hostilities have been going on has been delayed and many reports are still pending corroboration. This concerns, for example, Mariupol (Donetsk region), Izium (Kharkiv region), and Popasna (Luhansk region), where there are allegations of numerous civilian casualties.”

 

[Apollon]

Hmm.. Looks like pro-Russian posters are being selectively silenced while posters openly cheering selling of Russian bones as trophies are making merry. Guess it has got to be due to the downward trajectory of the Ukrainian military which cannot be papered over anymore.
The deja vu of the Syrian war is all over the place. A legit power vs a motivated gaggle of militias supplied by multitudes of countries. After initial reverses, the legit and cohesive power makes slow but consistent progress, grinding the extremists into the dust one village and one town at a time. The suppliers to the militias, like in Syria, is finally seeing the writing on the wall and starting to doubt themselves. Sooner or later they will slink away in the dark of night leaving the Ukros high and dry. But there won't be a Turkey this time to create an Idlib in Lviv.
Meanwhile Lithuania is doing a fine job of trying to provoke a fight between the NATO and Russia, and between EU and China.
If they continue to block Russian goods Russia can operate in the grey-zone: it's navy can do a " soft" blockade of Lithuanian ports by boarding random ships on suspicion of piracy or drug running.

No they cant. Russian ships are banned from entering european waters. So good luck with that.


Meanwhile we demilitarize russia

 

[ZeGerman]

Hmm.. Looks like pro-Russian posters are being selectively silenced while posters openly cheering selling of Russian bones as trophies are making merry. Guess it has got to be due to the downward trajectory of the Ukrainian military which cannot be papered over anymore.
The deja vu of the Syrian war is all over the place. A legit power vs a motivated gaggle of militias supplied by multitudes of countries. After initial reverses, the legit and cohesive power makes slow but consistent progress, grinding the extremists into the dust one village and one town at a time. The suppliers to the militias, like in Syria, is finally seeing the writing on the wall and starting to doubt themselves. Sooner or later they will slink away in the dark of night leaving the Ukros high and dry. But there won't be a Turkey this time to create an Idlib in Lviv.
Meanwhile Lithuania is doing a fine job of trying to provoke a fight between the NATO and Russia, and between EU and China.
If they continue to block Russian goods Russia can operate in the grey-zone: it's navy can do a " soft" blockade of Lithuanian ports by boarding random ships on suspicion of piracy or drug running.

That is because these “pro-russian” are basically constantly copy-pasting the worst of the russian/chechen state propaganda.

And here you are comparing the legit sovereign state of ukraine as being as illegitimate as certain extremist syrian militias.
Just like putin questioned their statehood for his war of agression and annexation.

 

[mazeto]

No they cant. Russian ships are banned from entering european waters. So good luck with that.


Meanwhile we demilitarize russia

Lithuania being so small, the Russian can easily intercept all their shipping in
" international " waters. They can just delay shipments till insurance and shipping companies give up. Something like how China slapped them around.. without raising a hand.

That is because these “pro-russian” are basically constantly copy-pasting the worst of the russian/chechen state propaganda.

And here you are comparing the legit sovereign state of ukraine as being as illegitimate as certain extremist syrian militias.
Just like putin questioned their statehood for his war of agression and annexation.

I saw a video in which an NCO level Ukrainian soldier was giving a rats *** to Zelensky standing right next to him and giving him instructions. Zelensky had to repeatedly remind that cavalier soldier that he is the presidential of Ukraine.
So Ukraine is technically a legal state, but it doesn't have the gravitas of one.

 

[Apollon]

Lithuania being so small, the Russian can easily intercept all their shipping in
" international " waters. They can just delay shipments till insurance and shipping companies give up. Something like how China slapped them around.. without raising a hand.


I saw a video in which an NCO level Ukrainian soldier was giving a rats *** to Zelensky standing right next to him and giving him instructions. Zelensky had to repeatedly remind that cavalier soldier that he is the presidential of Ukraine.
So Ukraine is technically a legal state, but it doesn't have the gravitas of one.

Lithuania is EU and NATO. And according to EU sanction article 5 no russian ship is allowed to enter EU waters. Remember what happened to russian flagship moskva

 

[mazeto]

Lithuania is EU and NATO. And according to EU sanction article 5 no russian ship is allowed to enter EU waters. Remember what happened to russian flagship moskva

They can be intercepted outside the territorial waters, which is outside the " EU" waters.
Btw the EU is said to be already backpedalling and trying to find a loophole for Russia to continue carrying goods across Lithuania.
So much for your bluster

 

[Apollon]

They can be intercepted outside the territorial waters, which is outside the " EU" waters.
Btw the EU is said to be already backpedalling and trying to find a loophole for Russia to continue carrying goods across Lithuania.
So much for your bluster

Russia has no acess to those waters amigo. Maybe look at a map.

So far EU backpedals nowhere. Its closed and will stay closed.

 

[MH.Yang]

Let me remind you. After China imposed trade sanctions on Lithuania, Lithuania's current CPI has exceeded 20%. The inflation rate is the second highest in the world, second only to Turkey, and worse than Sri Lanka. But the western media will not report on Lithuania's economic situation, because they do not want others to see how the USA abandoned their dogs.

Now they are questioning that Greta Thunberg is a Russian spy, because Europe now needs to use coal, and they must abandon and discredit some former heroes.

 

[Apollon]

Let me remind you. After China imposed trade sanctions on Lithuania, Lithuania's current CPI has exceeded 20%. The inflation rate is the second highest in the world, second only to Turkey, and worse than Sri Lanka. But the western media will not report on Lithuania's economic situation, because they do not want others to see how the USA abandoned their dogs.

Now they are questioning that Greta Thunberg is a Russian spy, because Europe now needs to use coal, and they must abandon and discredit some former heroes.

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Lithuania is in EU and thus the effect on people there is small.

 

[MeFishToo]

Let me remind you. After China imposed trade sanctions on Lithuania, Lithuania's current CPI has exceeded 20%. The inflation rate is the second highest in the world, second only to Turkey, and worse than Sri Lanka. But the western media will not report on Lithuania's economic situation, because they do not want others to see how the USA abandoned their dogs.

Now they are questioning that Greta Thunberg is a Russian spy, because Europe now needs to use coal, and they must abandon and discredit some former heroes.

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The inflation in Lithuania is driven by effects of corona, higher energy prices and the war in Ukraine. It has nothing to do with Chinas export embargo or informal secundary sanctions. And its no secret. Every such claim is followed by “western media will not report it”, insinuating this claim is then somehow validated.