Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments

Paul2 · May 13, 2022

Vergennes said:
They are keeping many troops in the soutwest to prevent/counter a future Ukrainian offensive on Kherson. The Ukrainians will attempt it once they have received the majority of the heavy equipments (especially artillery) provided by the west.

Good for Ukrainians: it's a corps sized force sitting doing nothing.

Wergeland · May 13, 2022

LeGenD said:
Agreed.

However, Joseph Stalin was also behaving like Hitler before Germany invaded Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) in 1941.

- USSR invaded Finland and Poland in 1939.
- USSR invaded and annexed Baltic states (Estonia; Latvia; Lithuania) in 1940.

USSR and Germany had Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact to split Europe including Poland between them.

Molotov-Ribbentrop: Five states remember 'misery' pact victims

The Molotov-Ribbentrop pact doomed half of Europe for decades, say the Baltics, Poland and Romania.

www.bbc.com

Both sides were Fascist to begin with.

The Big Five have conditioned people around the world to subconsciously hate Nazism which is fine but somewhat ironic given their own respective track record(s). China does have better moral compass because these people have experienced imperialism of the British Empire for burning opium and oppression of Imperial Japan. China also saved North Korea in the Korean War.

China is becoming powerful and seems to patronize Russia lately but China should reject Fascism. Developments in Georgia, Syria and Ukraine indicate that Russia have not changed.

Neither Soviet or Russia was/is an Angel.

Germany and Soviet both carved up eastern Europe in order to creater big buffer against eachother. Communists and Nazis hated eachother. Hitler despised communists and accused it for being a jewish conspiracy.

Still, looking at the result theres no doubt the Soviet Union was the real warrior of WW2. Although Nazi Germany was defeated theough Allied afforts, it was Soviet who dealt the biggest blow to Hitler.

The SC · May 13, 2022

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F-22Raptor · May 13, 2022

Corax said:
You're seeing it happen. Support insurrection in Ukraine, overthrow the pro-Russian elected leader, stoke anti-Russian sentiment amongst the Ukrainian Nationalists and neo-Nazis, train and build-up the Ukrainian armed forces, provoke Russian to invade in a costly unwinnable war, leading to instability in Russia, the collapse of its economy, invade Russia with a UN mandate to "stabilise" the country and "secure" its nuclear weapons. This strategy has been well thought through and played out in multiple different scenarios. But it will take time, many year, maybe a decade.

No, a direct confrontation would Russia would be stupid. They would still have enough second strike capability to wipe out the US. The US strategy is one of attrition, instability and time, but it will likely defang Russia of its nuclear weapons through other means.

Yes, Russia is terrified of massed US cruise missile strikes. Russian officials have stated this in the past. It’s the mass and precision. A lot of Russian nuclear infrastructure would be destroyed.

Corax · May 13, 2022

F-22Raptor said:
Yes, Russia is terrified of massed US cruise missile strikes. Russian officials have stated this in the past. It’s the mass and precision. A lot of Russian nuclear infrastructure would be destroyed.

You seem to have a hard on about US cruise missiles.. we get it, let it go, you've barked the same bark a hundred times on this thread already. The US has other weapons and choices as well. The Russians have equal cruise missile capability, but you can't seem to see beyond that. Cruise missiles are but one tool in the box. Attacking their nuclear infrastructure would mean a nuclear exchange (MAD scenario), can you not see that in your myopic, limited vision?

Viet · May 13, 2022

Siemens, one of Germany’s largest companies leaves Russia after 170 years.

Siemens to leave Russia due to Ukraine war, take hefty charge

Siemens will quit the Russian market due to the war in Ukraine, it said on Thursday, taking a 600 million euro ($630 million) hit to its business during the second quarter, with more costs to come.

www.reuters.com

The SC · May 13, 2022

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The SC · May 13, 2022

https://twitter.com/x/status/1524797361842790400

https://twitter.com/x/status/1524783535441252354

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Wergeland · May 13, 2022

The SC said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1524763238487007233

There we go @jhungary
Finlands economy may take a big hit even before Russia fires a single bullet. Same applies to Germany. Without cheap energy many European economies will take a hit. Its not hard to understand. Its basically like the OPEC Arab oil weaponized in the 1970s. But this time Europe is boycotting itself from cheap energy :hitwall: