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Thats what the west thinks - Putin has destroyed Ukraine war-making capability and Ukraine will not join Nato, says Zelenskiy, as shelling of Kyiv continues.


The rest is all noise and irrelevant...
Zelenskyy is saying Ukraine CAN'T join because of the conflict prior to the invasion as well as during the war. In other words, won't be allowed to because NATO members don't want to go to WW3. Thats different than saying Ukraine will back away from joining it because of Putin.
 
Not the same way at all. Show me a city in Afghanistan Iraq flattened like this, and in 3 weeks. It didn't happen. I'm not saying there are not criticisms to be made, but the two do not equate.

Operation Phantom Fury in Iraq is one example and every time the Israelis engage in Gaza. Just for note purposes, I honestly don’t care how many Russians or Ukrainians die or if this conflict expands into the rest of blonde hair blue eyed Europe for all I care they can end up dead I wouldn’t lose sleep any day.
 
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Why would NATO need to liberate Ukraine? They were under attack by the Russian, it's the Russian who want to "Liberate" Ukraine. Not the other way around.....
Russia already has well almost of it and the west is in the habit of liberating countries so they should liberate Ukraine from the Russkies. :)
 
Russia already has well almost of it and the west is in the habit of liberating countries so they should liberate Ukraine from the Russkies. :)
Are we watching the same map? I wouldn't called Russian taking just 2 cities (small size metro city) in the entire 4 week campaign is "Close" to anything. By now, we would already have 70% of Iraqi city including Baghdad when we invaded Iraq back in 2003.
 
Russia already has well almost of it and the west is in the habit of liberating countries so they should liberate Ukraine from the Russkies. :)
Russia is not even close to "liberating" Ukraine.
 
Zelenskyy is saying Ukraine CAN'T join because of the conflict prior to the invasion as well as during the war. In other words, won't be allowed to because NATO members don't want to go to WW3. Thats different than saying Ukraine will back away from joining it because of Putin.
You are very disconnected from ground realities, you are very very disconnected from mama google :)

 
Are we watching the same map? I wouldn't called Russian taking just 2 cities (small size metro city) in the entire 4 week campaign is "Close" to anything. By now, we would already have 70% of Iraqi city including Baghdad when we invaded Iraq back in 2003.
Probably looking at the Russian version.
 
Just like good Taliban you know, just look it up there are good taliban and bad taliban.
Again, that only proof you have no idea what you are talking about in Ukraine.

This is not a "Good Taliban" "Bad Taliban" situation.

This is about you don't know anything regarding the Neo Nazi situation in Ukraine and then use some arbitrary group and show me the "Good Neo Nazi and Bad Neo Nazi" bit. While ignore (either intentional or being ignorant) the actual Neo Nazi group in Ukraine when you talk about Neo Nazi...
 
I'm just pointing out what the president said.

You are not reading the news, I suggest you get out more often, There were negotiations and plans to bring Ukraine under NATO like many other states after the collapse of USSR.

Mark my words Ukraine will never join NATO and Zelenskiy confirmed that.
 
You are not reading the news, I suggest you get out more often, There were negotiations and plans to bring Ukraine under NATO like many other states after the collapse of USSR.

Mark my words Ukraine will never join NATO and Zelenskiy confirmed that.
Well since you claim that Ukraine is not joining NATO, then the Russians should be already be packing and leaving then.
 
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