Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

[zectech]

@thetutle

Putinites are 5th columnists for a Trumpian hellscape.

If you do a little research, Russia is already a hellscape.

Where if you say things that offend Putin and expose Putin. Those comments are "criminal" and "fake news". And put you in jail if you oppose Putin.

Hmm... That is much the same as these cia trolls that want opposition to the cia to be kidnapped and charged with accusations of libel. The EU nations and politicians have said the cia does covert illegal things such as false flags and lies about it.

In a court of justice, if a witness says anything untrue, you are instructed by the judge to ignore the entire testimony of that witness. The cia false flags and lies and attacks those who expose the false flags.

So if the usual trolls say the cia is going to go after you over exposing the lying cia, dismiss it. The witness - the cia - is a liar.

 

[Vergennes]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1607062766799429632

 

[zectech]

cia lies in mission and to the public about the deeds of the cia. So since the cia is a criminal organization, as said by EU nations and EU politicians, it is part of the Standard Operating Procedure of the cia to lie.

 

[LeGenD]

Members are advised to get back on topic.

 

[zectech]

If you read the book "American Freedom and Catholic Power", the Kennedys and Bidens were political enemies of the OSS and later cia. That Catholic Europeans posed a clear and present threat to WASP-jewish alliance. Is Biden defending Catholic Europe and Catholic EU because of this good disposition against the EU, I do not know. Louie Wirth, an oss linked academic, penned some of the Chapters in the book. That book is the playbook against Catholics in the USA and Europe. cia asset Tucker Carlson is exposing that the cia is continuing this anti-Catholic EU agenda, to destroy EU Europe using Putin.

The cia Modus Operandi is for you to fully blame Russia. Or have you on team Putin, fully blaming Washington. The cia does not want you blaming Russia for Russian crimes. And USA for USA crimes. The entire cia house of nothing cards crashes down when you blame Washington and Moscow, and London and Hell Aviv for their respective crimes. USA wins with only blame Putin, or only blame Washington. Since the Kremlin has been controlled cia agents since the fall of the Soviet Union. And Washington is epicenter of evil. Are you on Team Washington or on Team Moscow. EU wants to be on Team EU. Knowing that Washington was part of Brexit and 2008 financial crisis exported to EU that hurt EU economy.

This Ukraine war is the planned either recolonization of Europe by US hegemony or the loss of Europe to Trumper cia-ism, via Putin. Europe rejects both.

 

[Broccoli]

"Brothers morale not very high"

https://twitter.com/x/status/1607085505291898882

 

[Deino]

cia lies in mission and to the public about the deeds of the cia. So since the cia is a criminal organization, as said by EU nations and EU politicians, it is part of the Standard Operating Procedure of the cia to lie.

But the former KGB and now FSB in return sid always the truth?

Come on, can we leave out these plain stupid political BS-topics like Jews vs Arbas, the Swedish justice system and CIA operations?

 

[zectech]

If you read the book "American Freedom and Catholic Power", the Kennedys and Bidens were political enemies of the OSS and later cia. That Catholic Europeans posed a clear and present threat to WASP-jewish alliance. Is Biden defending Catholic Europe and Catholic EU because of this good disposition against the EU, I do not know. Louie Wirth, an oss linked academic, penned some of the Chapters in the book. That book is the playbook against Catholics in the USA and Europe. cia asset Tucker Carlson is exposing that the cia is continuing this anti-Catholic EU agenda, to destroy EU Europe using Putin.

The cia Modus Operandi is for you to fully blame Russia. Or have you on team Putin, fully blaming Washington. The cia does not want you blaming Russia for Russian crimes. And USA for USA crimes. The entire cia house of nothing cards crashes down when you blame Washington and Moscow, and London and Hell Aviv for their respective crimes. USA wins with only blame Putin, or only blame Washington. Since the Kremlin has been controlled cia agents since the fall of the Soviet Union. And Washington is epicenter of evil. Are you on Team Washington or on Team Moscow. EU wants to be on Team EU. Knowing that Washington was part of Brexit and 2008 financial crisis exported to EU that hurt EU economy.

This Ukraine war is the planned either recolonization of Europe by US hegemony or the loss of Europe to Trumper cia-ism, via Putin. Europe rejects both.

This is why I said again and again on these threads that Europe needs to arm to the teeth against Russia. Because Russia is being used to destroy freedom in Europe, by the usual suspects. Europe MUST not be dependent on Washington for security. Or else we lose some independence.

Off-topic is saying you cannot criticize secretive cia, or you should be kidnapped by the cia trolls. That is off topic. Are Pakistanis threatened with kidnap and libel when they say on Pankistani threads that IK was taken out by the cia plot. No. Then why in Europe, these baseless threats against freedom of speech. Go to the Pakistani threads and see the laughter as the reply to threats against Pakistani freedom of speech.

 

[MeFishToo]

sure, lets continue.

might've? how is that a "might've" when NATO told Ukraine how to start building trenches in east Ukraine since 2014?

themselves? I mean, its only their country and citizens being destroyed at the quickest and most consistent rate in the war, especially now..

well well well....foolish Ukraine should've realized that disregarding the regional hegemon's concerns and interests leads to bad messes that quickly become regret for a country like Ukraine. be wise!, but Ukraine wasnt- NATO egged Ukraine's bich azz to actually provoke and threaten Russia- so now we have to find out if that was smart or dumb.

prove this, because you talk is cheap, especailly yours.

IS that Why Russia had to BUST Georgia's butt in 2008 when NATO AGAIN was trying to integrate another former soviet bloc country on Russia's border into NATO? who had imperial ambitions then? Russia or NATO? NATO is the imperial bastard that has to have its back broken now- the neo nazi movement of the modern era- its just causing problems all over the world - but Ukraine is its waterloo- NATO will never be the same after this war.



then why does Ukraine keep losing bits of most territories and towns on the frontline these days? Ukrainian soldiers dont even have enough artillery for a war..sitting ducks..smh. those good troops arent irreplaceable you know?

First of all, Im not going to respond to this russian narrative of NATO controlling Ukraine.
In all honesty, Russia invading countries doesnt prove NATO emperialism. And, Russia is annexing territory - how does that in any way resemble a mutual defence pact like NATO?
Russia is agaisnt NATO because its a threat to its emperial ambitions. Its as simple as that. So they invaded Ukraine, hoping the West would turn the other cheek like in 2014 when Russia invaded Crimea and instigated and supported the fighting in eastern Ukraine.
Putin miscalculated just about everything, and now Russia is facing a major humiliation in Ukraine - and no NATO soldier has even fired a shot yet.

 

[LeGenD]

@zectech

I can post information about how KGB has shaped the world. Get my drift?

Get back to topic.

 

[Horse_Rider]

Off-topic is saying you cannot criticize secretive cia, or you should be kidnapped by the cia trolls. That is off topic. Are Pakistanis threatened with kidnap and libel when they say on other threads that IK was taken out by the cia plot. No. Then why in Europe, these baseless threats against freedom of speech. Go to the Pakistani threads and see the laughter as the reply.

I can assure you, IK wasn't taken out on ANY CIA operation. In Pakistan, it's VERY easy to blame the US for all of our problems and get people lined up trusting it. In fact that's probably the easiest way to blame America for whatever and get sympathies. What IK and his people on this very forum didn't tell you, was that he didn't do anything for 4 years, made the Chinese stop work on many projects, upset the US, EU and even Saudi Arabia, and we were in a ditch with the IMF not issuing proceeds to a loan he signed due to him not following signed commitments. The military created him and backed off when they saw all this. Result? His opponents brought a change in the assembly and took him out. But his followers blame the Army / CIA / Opposition every minutes of the day.

On Topic, the Russian President today (3rd time this week) said that he wants to start "negotiations" and is "open to them". What does that tell us about this war? That he's worn out and wants an end? Probably doesn't have enough conventional power left to go beyond another month or so? The sanctions are biting him hard and he wants to end this before his system collapses?

One thing is for sure, I believe after this war, Russia won't ever be able to start another conflict with anyone. I think it would take it another 10 years to gain lost everything, weapons, man, training, experience, economy, etc, etc.

Putin says Russia ready to negotiate over Ukraine, Kyiv voices doubts

MOSCOW (Reuters) -President Vladimir Putin said Russia was open to negotiations over the war in Ukraine and blamed Kyiv and its Western backers for a lack of talks, a stance Washington has previously dismissed as posturing amid persistent Russian attacks. "We are ready to negotiate with...

news.yahoo.com

 

[Viet]

I've noticed that Russians aren't even using that many tanks in Bakhmut and sends soldiers into battle almost like we were living in year 1915 instead of 2022.

Crazy stuff.

That’s the big question where are russian tanks? They apparently run out of tanks. The Russians, the wagners, the Chechens they all run barefoot against Ukraine defense lines like lemmings. Otherwise with tanks they can easily overrun bar wires set up by Ukraine defense forces.

Ukrainische Soldaten bereiten Straßensperren in Bachmut vor.
(Foto: picture alliance/dpa/AP)

 

[thetutle]

It has become apparent to me that Russia is fighting this war like its fighting against ukraine only.

I don't see it doing anything to show it realises that its up against NATO weapons and NATO command and control architecture.

As a consequence, I predict it will end very badly for Russia.

 

[nangyale]

Alas @Hassan Al-Somal is banned.
This thread will be another NATOist circle jerk from now on.
Congratulations to the moderators.

 

[SIPRA]

Alas @Hassan Al-Somal is banned.
This thread will be another NATOist circle jerk from now on.
Congratulations to the moderators.

He was the one of the 2 main posters, other being @The SC, who were providing information from the Russian perspective and angle.