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Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

Will this be the game changer for Ukraine or an escalation they will regret? Patriots will neutralize the Russian air domination ensuring the outcome will be decided by land action, where there appears to be a stalemate at present. A war of attrition is not in Russia's advantage as the Ukrainians build up their army and NATO train and arm Ukrainian forces effectively. As Russia becomes more desperate Russian Generals will be given more options on the table and the war no doubt will turn uglier :-

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Ukrainians will start training on Patriot missiles in the US as soon as next week, officials say​

From CNN's Oren Liebermann and Haley Britzky

Ukrainians are set to begin training on the Patriot missile system in the United States as soon as next week, two US officials familiar with the matter tell CNN.
The training program will take place at Fort Sill in Oklahoma, where the US conducts its own training on operating and maintaining the advanced air defense system. Fort Sill is one of the Army's four basic training locations and home to the service's field artillery school, which has been training service members for more than a century.
The training for the Ukrainians on the complex system is expected to take "several months," said Laura Cooper, the deputy assistant secretary of defense for Russia, Ukraine and Eurasia. "I'm not going to be able to give you a specific timeframe for the completion of the training."
This comes after Pentagon press secretary Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder said Thursday that the US was looking at a variety of options for where to conduct the Patriot missile training "to include potential training here in the US, overseas, or a combination of both."
The US announced it was sending Ukraine the Patriot missile system in late December when Ukrainian President Volodomyr Zelensky visited Washington and met with US President Joe Biden.
Germany recently announced that it was sending Ukraine a second Patriot missile system from its own inventory.
did Russia even used air force ?, do they knew how to use it ? for more than the role of an air based artillery
 
This is beautiful weapon system. Funny that Sweden who hasn’t seen combat for years has some of the best military equipment.
Well, Bofor (BAe Bofor now) always made good artillery, it's like that since WW2.
 
in this war even odessa and kherson are not important , the only strategic point in Ukraine right now is Lviv and cities around it, i wonder how good defensive lines east of ukraine are if Belarus decide to enter war and capture those areas
Why Lviv more important?
Even if, how will the russian main line of attack? From Balarus and Transinien maybe?
The entire border area to Belarus is mined, defended by Ukraine artillery, national guards, border defense units and regular army. Not easy to break thru.
The front to Transinien will be interesting. If that happens, Moldavia will become party to the war.
 
Why Lviv more important?
Even if, how will the russian main line of attack? From Balarus and Transinien maybe?
that's NATO supply line , without it , you think how long Ukraine can continue pouring this volume of fire over the Russian .
odesa is closed for supply any ship who want to use it will be destroyed and I doubt moldava allow any supply go through its land and yes belarus can be the route of attack that Lukachenkov survival depend on Russia, he is a puppet and will never say no to putin and if putin ask he probably willing to directly intervene , allowing putin use belarus land to open another front in Ukraine even don't need 5sec of thinking for him
 
that's NATO supply line , without it , you think how long Ukraine can continue pouring this volume of fire over the Russian .
odesa is closed for supply any ship who want to use it will be destroyed and I doubt moldava allow any supply go through its land and yes belarus can be the route of attack that Lukachenkov survival depend on Russia, he is a puppet and will never say no to putin and if putin ask he probably willing to directly intervene , allowing putin use belarus land to open another front in Ukraine even don't need 5sec of thinking for him
NATO weapons flow into Ukraine via Poland, Romania air, roads and rails. these are the major routes, how will Putin cut off the routes? He will have the choice to declare war on the NATO.
 
NATO weapons flow into Ukraine via Poland, Romania air, roads and rails. these are the major routes, how will Putin cut off the routes? He will have the choice to declare war on the NATO.
NATO weapon can't fly over Russia controlled lands , if they capture those areas , they simply can destroy any transport plane enter those area , and he can cut those route by attacking from north and go toward south and reach Moldava .

and as Ukraine draw dangerously from any branch anywhere and send them to Soledor and Bakhmut to fight some Russian prisoners , wonder there is enough man to put on those lines
 
NATO weapon can't fly over Russia controlled lands , if they capture those areas , they simply can destroy any transport plane enter those area , and he can cut those route by attacking from north and go toward south and reach Moldava .

and as Ukraine draw dangerously from any branch anywhere and send them to Soledor and Bakhmut to fight some Russian prisoners , wonder there is enough man to put on those lines
First of all, whatever Russia tried they already did tried in February, if they can't crack that border with the best of their troop and best of their armor with the Ukrainian caught in the proverbial pants in between their leg, they can't even hope of doing it now. Ukraine had around 4 Brigade defending that entire area back in Feb 24. Now there are 15 Brigade. And then they have been focusing on making defensive line toward the Belarus border. If Russian, try to start another front in the north, they will probably need 10 times more than the force they had back in Feb last year, and if they can't supply that force back in Feb, it would have been a disaster for the Russian to do it again.

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Secondly, most Ukrainian force uses combat rotation, which mean new TDF unit got fed into Warzone in the South and in the East, then rotate with regular unit. Most of the TDF brigade had experience in battle. Against brand new troop of Russia, not really look good for the Russian.

And finally, there were talks for Poland or Estonia to support an uprising or even literally invade Belarus if they become part of this war. Now that probably implied if Belarussian troop cross the border themselves, but that may change if the Russian tried that again.

And finally, there are no way Russia can get that far into Lviv because as I explained many time here, you will then have one side face Polish Border, which you can't cross, and the other going to be pinned by the Ukrainian force, that is a very good way to lose a war.
 
And finally, there are no way Russia can get that far into Lviv because as I explained many time here, you will then have one side face Polish Border, which you can't cross, and the other going to be pinned by the Ukrainian force, that is a very good way to lose a war.
if mean time russia make another push from the east there won't be that much troop to transfare west toward belarusian forces. and no i doubt poland will attack belarus as they are somehow depleted by this war in ukraine and if something happen they cant rely on article 5 of the NATO , start uprising , yes they can do but enter in direct war ,very unlikely
 
if mean time russia make another push from the east there won't be that much troop to transfare west toward belarusian forces. and no i doubt poland will attack belarus as they are somehow depleted by this war in ukraine and if something happen they cant rely on article 5 of the NATO , start uprising , yes they can do but enter in direct war ,very unlikely
No. Remember when I said Ukrainian rotate their troop.

Take 2 Brigade for an example. 95th and 115th, 95 was based (as in their garrison) in Zhytomyr, which is WEST of Kyiv, their current position is somewhere in the East western intelligence believe it is near Bakhmut. When they were in Bakhmut, their position in Zhytomyr was taken by 115th Brigade, and they rotate with each other. And before that, it was 120 TDF Brigade.

So essentally, what the Ukrainian do is rotate troop and put their reserve to back up a regular unit, and redeploy them back to their original base to refit and reorganise after 3 or 4 months, and put one of those TDF brigade in their place. That way you preserve your force, and you keep the force fresh.

Russia on the other hand, leave their unit in threatre until either they are decimated or no longer function as a BTG. Which mean the combat power erode much quicker and when that unit is gone, it IS gone, you will either need to put new unit in them (hence the mobilisation) or disband other to form one from the remaining troop.

That is the reason why Ukraine don't have mobilisation, when the Russia is asking for another one. Ukraine use the time they deployed their frontline brigade in the frontline to train new troop, form new Brigade and so on, and when that regular unit come back for R&R, you send that new unit off in their place, and rotate them back and reuse the regular unit.

On the other hand, Ukraine still probably have 10 or 15 Brigade that were not used anywhere in the line, which coincide with the latest round of Miltiary Aid, I don't personally believe in coincident. It's not at all hard to see they are waiting on the new Western Hardware to form rejuvenate their military power for another push.

On the other hand, while I also do not believe Poland will invade Belarus, but the actual talk have their weight, it make Lukachenko think twice, that is probably the single reason why Lukachenko refused to commit to this war even as the go so far to let Russia do what they please within their own territories, in fact, my wife had point out that effectively Belarus should be already be at war with Ukraine.

On the other hand Poland is not a depleted force, just rely on ex-Soviet equipment alone, they can already take on Belarus. Probably even enough to neutralise Russian troop inside Ukraine with. You are talking about 1000+ T-72 (T-72 + PT-91) hundred of Grad, Hundreds of 2S1. That would be more than enough to fight Belarussian. And then they are buying new Western stuff like crazy, 220 HIMARS, 198 Chunmoo, 400 M1 Abrams, 1000 K-2 Tank.....I mean, they are going to be armed to the teeth in the next few years. I don't think poland is depleted in any form or sense if you ask me.
 
The same RUSSIAN sources and Russian government itself have always claimed the srebrenica massacre was a lie and made up. Yet funny enough they used it to also justify their intervention in Ukraine saying they wanted to avoid a srebrenica like massacre in Ukraine . Lol

However, if you are a Bosnian Serb, then it makes sense to believe "Russian sources" due to obvious reasons of closeness with Russia.
So i won't even bother with Russian Propaganda/disinformation, since its quite common and i know their tricks.
I'm obviously joking.
 
NATO weapon can't fly over Russia controlled lands , if they capture those areas , they simply can destroy any transport plane enter those area , and he can cut those route by attacking from north and go toward south and reach Moldava .

and as Ukraine draw dangerously from any branch anywhere and send them to Soledor and Bakhmut to fight some Russian prisoners , wonder there is enough man to put on those lines
Where is Russia aviation? That does not exist. Most are dead and downed. What we seeing, Putin’s bombers fire cruise missiles from Russia mainland towards Ukraine civil infra. They don’t even target Ukraine military targets anymore. They are too afraid of Ukraine air defense. Terror bombing that’s it. Forget about controlling Ukraine airspace or target NATO weapons delivery.

Sure, Ukraine won’t fly over airspace controlled by the hooligans.
 
First of all, whatever Russia tried they already did tried in February, if they can't crack that border with the best of their troop and best of their armor with the Ukrainian caught in the proverbial pants in between their leg, they can't even hope of doing it now. Ukraine had around 4 Brigade defending that entire area back in Feb 24. Now there are 15 Brigade. And then they have been focusing on making defensive line toward the Belarus border. If Russian, try to start another front in the north, they will probably need 10 times more than the force they had back in Feb last year, and if they can't supply that force back in Feb, it would have been a disaster for the Russian to do it again.

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Secondly, most Ukrainian force uses combat rotation, which mean new TDF unit got fed into Warzone in the South and in the East, then rotate with regular unit. Most of the TDF brigade had experience in battle. Against brand new troop of Russia, not really look good for the Russian.

And finally, there were talks for Poland or Estonia to support an uprising or even literally invade Belarus if they become part of this war. Now that probably implied if Belarussian troop cross the border themselves, but that may change if the Russian tried that again.

And finally, there are no way Russia can get that far into Lviv because as I explained many time here, you will then have one side face Polish Border, which you can't cross, and the other going to be pinned by the Ukrainian force, that is a very good way to lose a war.
What insane about Russia is they still uses mass infantry charges in this day and age. Don't get me wrong I love seeing dead russians. But you gotta wonder is the one in charge of their military/mercenaries is either stupid or retarded. So don't try to use common sense against this people.

If putin wants to invade from the north expects a lot of would be dead russians pouring down from belarus.


The same RUSSIAN sources and Russian government itself have always claimed the srebrenica massacre was a lie and made up. Yet funny enough they used it to also justify their intervention in Ukraine saying they wanted to avoid a srebrenica like massacre in Ukraine . Lol

However, if you are a Bosnian Serb, then it makes sense to believe "Russian sources" due to obvious reasons of closeness with Russia.
So i won't even bother with Russian Propaganda/disinformation, since its quite common and i know their tricks.
How do I decides that someone is an irredeemable piece of shit is asking them what are their thoughts of the genocide in yugoslavia. This also apply to other genocide.

 
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