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Russia to China: Together we can rule the world

World is becoming multi polar. USA and EU will be powerful bloc. So will a Eurasian bloc of China Russia and some smaller nations. Other smaller regional blocs may emerge as well......ASEAN, African Union.

SAARC will go now where. ME will remain divided unless better leaders emerge. Turkey is trying but Arabs are easily manipulated by outside powers. Iran needs to move away from a grand Sunni - Shia conflict and start embracing Sunni countries and pan Islamic ideology more. Then maybe a regional bloc will emerge out of the ME but this is unlikely.
 
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Russia has been begging for China to join an Alliance with them but the only reason China hasn't was because of their relationship with America. With America now trying to throw that relationship in the toilet, there is no doubt China and Russia will join hands as a united front.

You can ask Russian companies to setup supply chains and sell the stuff to them

World is becoming multi polar. USA and EU will be powerful bloc. So will a Eurasian bloc of China Russia and some smaller nations. Other smaller regional blocs may emerge as well......ASEAN, African Union.

SAARC will go now where. ME will remain divided unless better leaders emerge. Turkey is trying but Arabs are easily manipulated by outside powers. Iran needs to move away from a grand Sunni - Shia conflict and start embracing Sunni countries and pan Islamic ideology more. Then maybe a regional bloc will emerge out of the ME but this is unlikely.

Iran has a nice bloc going for itself - Iraq, Syria, Houthis and Hezbollah
 
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so Russia needs some cash & China has some cash
but not feasible. Russia is too big for China to loan shark upon; and China is too smart to give away $s without control.
 
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Iran has a nice bloc going for itself - Iraq, Syria, Houthis and Hezbollah

All nations in ruins, bankrupt or part of broader geopolitical game to incite conflict between sunni and shia. Iran is an important player but it must integrate with Sunni countries for a regional bloc to emerge.
 
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Russia's President Vladimir Putin, left, walks with China's President Xi Jinping in Beijing | Greg Baker/AFP via Getty Images

THE COMING WARS

Russia to China: Together we can rule the world
Only Europe can prevent an Eastern bloc.

By BRUNO MAÇÃES

2/17/19, 6:00 AM CET


Updated 4/19/19, 1:17 AM CET

Europe’s obsession with Russia is unrequited. Moscow just isn’t interested in the Continent anymore.

It doesn’t care about European integration, or moving toward Europe. But neither is it interested in Europe’s predicted disintegration, or in pulling countries away from the West and closer to its way of thinking.

In the halls of the Kremlin these days, it’s all about China — and whether or not Moscow can convince Beijing to form an alliance against the West.

Russia’s obsession with a potential alliance with China was already obvious at the Valdai Discussion Club, an annual gathering of Russia’s biggest foreign policy minds, in 2017.

At their next meeting, late last year, the idea seemed to move from the speculative to something Russia wants to realize. And soon.

Russia’s view of China has shifted significantly over the past five years.

Every Russian speech — from obscure academics to Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Russian President Vladimir Putin himself — played that note and no other. There was even a new sense of desperation in the air.

As Sergey Karaganov, a former adviser to Putin, explained to me at breakfast, now everything must be about China.


Russia’s view of China has shifted significantly over the past five years. Moscow has abandoned any hope that the Chinese economy is an example it might emulate. Instead, foreign policy experts now talk of how Russia can use China to further its geopolitical goals.

There was no doubt at Valdai that China knows how to do economic growth, and that Russia does not. Russia’s elite — always so ready to resist any sign of Western hegemony — have no problem admitting China’s economic superiority. Their acceptance reminded me of the way Britain gave way to the United States as the world’s dominant economic power.


In the halls of the Kremlin these days, it’s all about China | Andreas Rentz/Getty Images

Seen from Moscow, there is no resistance left to a new alliance led by China. And now that Washington has imposed tariffs on Chinese exports, Russia hopes China will finally understand that its problem is Washington, not Moscow.

In the past, the possibility of an alliance between the two countries had been hampered by China’s reluctance to jeopardize its relations with the U.S. But now that it has already become a target, perhaps it will grow bolder. Every speaker at Valdai tried to push China in that direction.

When Putin finished a fireside chat with policymakers — a set-piece of the conference, where he fields softball questions from the audience — he made a gesture to leave the room, but then quickly rushed back to grab Yang Jiechi, a former Chinese foreign minister and arguably the main architect of the country’s foreign policy. He insisted on walking out with Yang by his side, to the obvious delight of his Chinese guest.

But what happens now? Can Russia and China really be friends, and for how long?

The thing to remember is that both countries are obsessed with overturning the American-led global order. They may have a long history of geopolitical rivalry — one that is sure to return once their goal is achieved and new poles emerge, pitting them against each other.

But they’ll cross that bridge when they get there, maybe in another 20 years or so. For now, Russia and China are essentially on the same side.

For the moment, Chinese prudence remains the great obstacle to the new alliance. And Russians know this.

This alliance, if it becomes concrete, would overturn how we do global politics. Imagine an international crisis in which Russia and China suddenly emerge as a single bloc. The impact would be considerable, and to some extent unpredictable: Psychologically, in the mind of the West, it would combine the fear associated with Russia with the apparent invulnerability of China. Washington would feel under attack; Europe, intimidated and unsettled.

The old Continent would also face the threat of a split between Western Europe and the nations of Central and Eastern Europe, which could turn their focus east under the influence of a cash-happy China ready to invest in the region.

It would be an entirely new world, and it’s one that is coming closer to becoming reality.

For the moment, Chinese prudence remains the great obstacle to the new alliance. And Russians know this.


Sergey Karaganov, a former adviser to Vladimir Putin | Soeren Stache/AFP via Getty Images

I met Karaganov again at a meeting with Chinese officials and think tankers in Beijing a few weeks ago. There, a number of Chinese participants said they doubted Russia’s assertions that the world is in the midst of a new Cold War.

Karaganov dedicated himself to convincing them otherwise, arguing with increasing passion that China is deluding itself if it thinks issues between Beijing and Washington can be conveniently resolved to the benefit of both sides.

If Beijing places its bets on peace and cooperation, the great Chinese adventure will come to an end, and China will have to live in the shadow of the U.S. for another generation — perhaps forever, Karaganov said. Chinese authorities, he argued, have no more than five years to make a decision.

The meeting was held under the Chatham House rule, so unfortunately, I cannot report on what the response from the Chinese side was; only Karaganov allowed me to relay his words.


At this point, can U.S.-China relations be salvaged? | Fred Dufour/AFP via Getty Images

But from my own separate conversations, Chinese officials appear to agree the clock is ticking. They’re just not yet convinced they should choose war — even a Cold War.

But if China has a word on whether we see the creation of an Eastern bloc, so does Europe.

European markets and European technology are critical resources for China. More and more, Chinese authorities know what to expect from America, and they know all too well what to expect from Russia. But Europe is a different matter. Beijing will hesitate to push it away, and will wait for Europeans to make up their minds.

We can keep them waiting. We can keep them pondering. In a dangerous world, Europe is the holder of the balance.

Bruno Maçães, a former Europe minister for Portugal, is a senior adviser at Flint Global in London and a nonresident senior fellow at the Hudson Institute in Washington. His book “The Dawn of Eurasia” was published by Penguin last year.



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The future of the world depends on US, if US is reasonable it should make concession with one of China, Russia ,EU, it is not capable to maintain the hegemony.

China wants the East Asian, Russia wants NATO disbanded, EU wants their own army.

If US makes concession with China but remains existing in EU and ME it's still superpower, meanwhile US may have American version of BRI in latin America to compete with China.

The problem is US isn't reasonable. It doesn't want competition.
 
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US declined in its demography. By 2050s US will be in serious trouble. China is bidding its time.
China loves the waiting game and has been playing it for nearly 40years. It's just that trump has gone on the offensive and wants to snap china out of the waiting game and to do something stupid. Luckily china keeps level headed and know trump will be gone soon along with all neo cons too.
 
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US declined in its demography. By 2050s US will be in serious trouble. China is bidding its time.

US is in serious trouble now, China does not want US collapse in one night. The best solution is US declining step by step and make concession with others accordingly.
 
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China and USA will definitely fight big wars. It is impossible for the people who control USA's president and political groups to let China succeed and it will not be their lives or children to sacrifice when they force USA vs China war. The matter will be between China's leaders and these people to make a deal. These deals will not be broadcast or show to the world.
 
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China and USA will definitely fight big wars. It is impossible for the people who control USA's president and political groups to let China succeed and it will not be their lives or children to sacrifice when they force USA vs China war. The matter will be between China's leaders and these people to make a deal. These deals will not be broadcast or show to the world.

This is why China building up its carrier force. US is unpredictable.
 
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