Russia to buy one of Iranian drones technology

[DavidSling]

I have ,and that list doesn't include all of the UAVs manufactured in Russia

The UAV I am talking about is Forpost , recently shot down over Ukraine
Like I said , it's not a UCAV but in terms of size and specifications its similar to Iranian UAV

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It's Israel Aerospace Industries facility in russia

 

[mohsen]

Is Iran Becoming a UAV Power? | iHLS Israel Homeland Security



Oct 1, 2016

the post is also available in: Hebrew :הכתבה זמינה גם ב

Russia has been seeking Iran’s help to achieve a long- range drone technology, according to the Iranian Chief of Staff, Brigadier General Mohammad Baqeri.

“There are only one or two countries, including the US and Israel , which have the knowledge of manufacturing long-range drones, capable of recognizing and targeting spot areas with one square meter dimension,” Baqeri said. Iran has the knowledge of manufacturing the long-range drones, he said.

Trend News Agency reports that It is not the first time that Iranian officials say that.


In a similar statement, Manouchehr Manteghi, secretary of Iran’s Technology Development and Knowledge-based Aviation and Aeronautical Industries Headquarters, said last year that Russia wants to import the technology of one of the Iranian-made drones.

The report mentions that Iran earlier gave Russia a copy of ScanEagle- a US spy drone as proof that its elite forces have reverse-engineered and mass produced the American unmanned aerial vehicle.

Tehran has gained a lot of experience in making drones after the country first used the aircraft for military use.

So far Iran has unveiled various domestically produced drones, including Ababil, Fotros, Hazem, Karrar (long range attack drone), Mohajer, Sarir, Shahed 129, Yasir and Zohal.

The country unveiled its first domestically manufactured long-range UAV named Karrar in 2010. The first Iranian medium-altitude long-endurance UAV, the Shahed-129 was unveiled in September 2012, which is capable of carrying out combat and reconnaissance eight missions for 24 hours and has a range of 1,700 km.

Iran also unveiled its largest yet homemade UAV, titled ‘Fotros’ in 2013. Fotros has a range of some 2,000 kilometers and is capable of launching air-to-surface missile strikes. The drone can fly at an altitude of 25,000 feet, with a flight time of 16 to 30 hours, says Trend News Agency.



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though somebody has already answered that question:

Like It or Not, Iran Is a Drone Power - War Is Boring

 

[haviZsultan]

Thanks to American hostile intentions and their wish to spy on Iran using these same long range drones Iran now possesses American drone technology because of a drone that crashed (or was shot down according to Iran) in Iran. By reverse engineering Iran has possessed that technology. Good work Iran and it would be brilliant if you gave baba America a damn bloody nose. That country should not even be on the world map.

 

[Shams313]

Thanks to American hostile intentions and their wish to spy on Iran using these same long range drones Iran now possesses American drone technology because of a drone that crashed (or was shot down according to Iran) in Iran. By reverse engineering Iran has possessed that technology. Good work Iran and it would be brilliant if you gave baba America a damn bloody nose. That country should not even be on the world map.

Too much hostile to america.
That's cool ya!D

 

[mohsen]

Russian Drone Tech May Include Help From Iran

• By John Kester
• October 5, 2017 - 5:48 pm

When Russia unveiled its Orion-E drone at the International Aviation and Space Salon MAKS-2017, near Moscow this summer, it bore a “striking resemblance” to an Iranian “Shahed” unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) already flying.

“Orion and Shahed look very much alike,” said Samuel Bendett, an associate research analyst at the Center for Naval Analyses’ International Affairs Group, speaking Thursday at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) in Washington, D.C.

The aviation conference where the Orion drone debuted was designed in part to bring together Russian officials and potential foreign business partners.

Russia has some operational drones already and is developing multiple unmanned systems for land, sky, and sea, but many are at a relatively early stage, Bendett said. The country is focused on improvements in drone intelligence, speed, flight time, and the ability to gather drones in swarms.

Working with foreign countries has been part of Russia’s strategy to catch up to advanced drone programs in the United States and China. Russia has cooperated with Israel, for example, as a strategic play to learn fast, Bendett said.

“Russia saw a distinct advantage in very quickly acquiring a system and learning from its operations, and obviously Israelis knew that that was going to happen,” he said.

The Russians’ acquisition process is still trying to catch up with technology developments, according to Bendett. “They’re going from zero to 100 in six seconds when it comes to UAVs,” he said.

The United States, meanwhile, has had a “near monopoly on unmanned military systems over the past quarter century,” Bendett said.

Russia has made internal changes to foster the development of drones, Bendett said. “Until a few years ago, Russia had no official or coordinated policy on unmanned military systems,” he said. “This has now changed.”

Still, internal hurdles include “skimmed off” money within programs, Olga Oliker, a senior advisor and director of the Russia and Eurasia Program at CSIS, said at the CSIS event.

“The Russian defense industry delivers slowly and over budget just like every other defense industry,” she said. “There’s a lot of room for inefficiency, and the inefficiency happens.”

There is no official confirmation of collaboration between Russia and Iran on the Orion drone, Bendett cautioned, though the two countries cooperate already in the war in Syria.

“Iranians travel to Moscow on a regular basis,” he said, “Perhaps they shared.”

Developing drones based on foreign designs can be faster than developing the technology from scratch, Oliker said.

“If you’re trying to catch up, you can use off-the-shelf stuff, you can emulate, you can reverse-engineer,” she said.

Russia is also making progress in land-based unmanned technology efforts, including a humanoid robot that can hold and shoot guns. That project helps reveal attitude differences between the United States and Russia toward military technology, according to Oliker.

“‘Terminators’ don’t seem like a good idea from here in the United States,” she said.

In the United States “you get a certain amount of terror that the robots are coming,” she said. “In Russia, there’s this notion that this can be controlled.”

 

[haman10]

Any ToT from Iran to other countries is a grave mistake. the reason is that we've got few things to offer and if we show our hand we might not have an upper hand in other areas

Russia can do a ToT in Su-35 and not give a damn and don't worry about the results. but if we do ToT on Shahed, God knows what can replace that MALE UCAV with another unique credible threat.

HOWEVER, having said all that, the best country to offer ToT to is actually Russia.

an independent friend of Iran.

 

[arashkamangir]

I wish we get to export more technology and services in future as our economy needs to distant itself from fossil fuel.

 

[raptor22]

Thanks to American hostile intentions and their wish to spy on Iran using these same long range drones Iran now possesses American drone technology because of a drone that crashed (or was shot down according to Iran) in Iran. By reverse engineering Iran has possessed that technology. Good work Iran and it would be brilliant if you gave baba America a damn bloody nose. That country should not even be on the world map.

Iran stared working on drones back in 80s, actually Iran is one of the first countries that used armed drones in combat. American operate their drones in many areas around the world which some of them have crashed none of them ended in a drone industry in those areas like Iran while Iran has brought down them not result of failure of drones.

 

[SOHEIL]

Russian Drone Tech May Include Help From Iran

• By John Kester
• October 5, 2017 - 5:48 pm

When Russia unveiled its Orion-E drone at the International Aviation and Space Salon MAKS-2017, near Moscow this summer, it bore a “striking resemblance” to an Iranian “Shahed” unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) already flying.

“Orion and Shahed look very much alike,” said Samuel Bendett, an associate research analyst at the Center for Naval Analyses’ International Affairs Group, speaking Thursday at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) in Washington, D.C.

The aviation conference where the Orion drone debuted was designed in part to bring together Russian officials and potential foreign business partners.

Russia has some operational drones already and is developing multiple unmanned systems for land, sky, and sea, but many are at a relatively early stage, Bendett said. The country is focused on improvements in drone intelligence, speed, flight time, and the ability to gather drones in swarms.

Working with foreign countries has been part of Russia’s strategy to catch up to advanced drone programs in the United States and China. Russia has cooperated with Israel, for example, as a strategic play to learn fast, Bendett said.

“Russia saw a distinct advantage in very quickly acquiring a system and learning from its operations, and obviously Israelis knew that that was going to happen,” he said.

The Russians’ acquisition process is still trying to catch up with technology developments, according to Bendett. “They’re going from zero to 100 in six seconds when it comes to UAVs,” he said.

The United States, meanwhile, has had a “near monopoly on unmanned military systems over the past quarter century,” Bendett said.

Russia has made internal changes to foster the development of drones, Bendett said. “Until a few years ago, Russia had no official or coordinated policy on unmanned military systems,” he said. “This has now changed.”

Still, internal hurdles include “skimmed off” money within programs, Olga Oliker, a senior advisor and director of the Russia and Eurasia Program at CSIS, said at the CSIS event.

“The Russian defense industry delivers slowly and over budget just like every other defense industry,” she said. “There’s a lot of room for inefficiency, and the inefficiency happens.”

There is no official confirmation of collaboration between Russia and Iran on the Orion drone, Bendett cautioned, though the two countries cooperate already in the war in Syria.

“Iranians travel to Moscow on a regular basis,” he said, “Perhaps they shared.”

Developing drones based on foreign designs can be faster than developing the technology from scratch, Oliker said.

“If you’re trying to catch up, you can use off-the-shelf stuff, you can emulate, you can reverse-engineer,” she said.

Russia is also making progress in land-based unmanned technology efforts, including a humanoid robot that can hold and shoot guns. That project helps reveal attitude differences between the United States and Russia toward military technology, according to Oliker.

“‘Terminators’ don’t seem like a good idea from here in the United States,” she said.

In the United States “you get a certain amount of terror that the robots are coming,” she said. “In Russia, there’s this notion that this can be controlled.”

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[mohsen]

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[fitpOsitive]

Technology may be transferred, but in exchange of something other valuable. After all Iranis and Russians are good partners. It may also be noted that Israelis may also be interested, via Russia.

 

[Dinky]

Technology may be transferred, but in exchange of something other valuable. After all Iranis and Russians are good partners. It may also be noted that Israelis may also be interested, via Russia.

I doubt Israel would be interested. They can just buy drone Technology from the United States

 

[fitpOsitive]

I doubt Israel would be interested. They can just buy the drone Technology from the United States

Hm, nice.

 

[TheImmortal]

Shaheed 129 is not Iran's most advanced drone.

So Iran could toT to Russia in exchange for something of similar value....maybe that is where the Karrar project (t-90) came from? Or maybe they got technology for jet engine or something else that is yet to be unveiled.