RUSSIA starts work on second 5th generation fighter.

[Moscow]

Sukhoi's future twin-engine Flanker-class fighter is not the only new-generation combat aircraft project in Russia. According to Alexey Fedorov, head of the United Aircraft Corporation, another aircraft designer — MiG Corp. — is developing a lightweight multi-role frontal aircraft (LMFS), which is said to be similar to the US Joint Strike Fighter. While the PAK FA will replace Russian Air Force's Su-27s, the service's MiG-29 Fulcrum is to be succeeded by the LMFS. Development of the LMFS would follow the PAK FA, with a first prototype flight planned for 2016-17.
russia has also completed work on the radar,ammunition,engine and other prerequisites for its PAKFA. will see pakfa flying< trials > by 2009 thats for sure.

 

[Moscow]

whether this is also a joint project with india cannot be confirmed but it has the support of the russian state < in terms of funding and orders >
the legendary mig is back

 

[TsAr]

Well Rusian arms industry has been long hit by financial crisis....for a long time they had not been able to launch any significant project ;ets c what happens wid this project.

 

[Moscow]

russian economy is now in a very sound position, the economic recession of the west affected mildly here in russia.
for decades russians had the knowhow of many technologies but lacked the funds and the state support,lack of manpower also caused project delays.
this project has the state backing so i guess there shouldnt be any problems.

 

[linkinpark]

Moscow, do you know if there is any contribution from Indian side like avionics in the PAK-FA project.

 

[Moscow]

Moscow, do you know if there is any contribution from Indian side like avionics in the PAK-FA project.

the project is very much in the initial stages any no detail information is available but going by the way russia s defence industry works now a days they would try to incoporate various foreign technologies into the aircraft. joint development might also be an option.

 

[maximus]

I don't know whether the Russians will be able to finance such a project. Especially considering the economic crisis all around the world. Russian economy is in a bad condition and talks about loans are already taking place. Not a very realistic option at this juncture.

 

[linkinpark]

Agreement signed:

HAL, Russia's UAC ink pact on 5th generation fighter aircraft

23 Dec 2008, 1830 hrs IST, PTI

BANGALORE: Hindustan Aeronautics Limited and Russia's United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) inked a pact to jointly develop and produce a fifth generation fighter aircraft, a top HAL official said on Tuesday.

"We (HAL and UAC) are moving forward as per schedule. We (have) just done the general contract yesterday. I went to Delhi and signed the general contract," HAL Chairman Ashok K Baweja said.

HAL officials noted that under a preliminary inter-governmental agreement signed in October last year, the advanced multi-role fighter is being developed by Sukhoi, part of UAC, along with the Bangalore-headquartered defence PSU.

According to reports, Russia and India would simultaneously develop two versions of the aircraft -- a two-seat version to meet the requirements of India and a single seat version for Russian Air Force.

UAC had begun building a prototype of the jet fighter which would feature high manoeuvrability and stealth to ensure air superiority and precision in destroying ground and sea targets, reports said.

Asked about the proposed investment in the venture, Baweja said it was very difficult to say at this stage and added: "It will be quite a lot".

He told reporters on the sidelines of the celebrations of HAL Day that the Navratna company has put on the backburner its MRO (maintenance, repair and overhaul of civil aircraft) venture plans at HAL airport following a slowdown in the world civil aviation market.

 

[Moscow]

I don't know whether the Russians will be able to finance such a project. Especially considering the economic crisis all around the world. Russian economy is in a bad condition and talks about loans are already taking place. Not a very realistic option at this juncture.

they will go for a joint venture project<for the mig project> i guess thats the best option.
the pakfa is already underway.

 

[linkinpark]

I don't know whether the Russians will be able to finance such a project. Especially considering the economic crisis all around the world. Russian economy is in a bad condition and talks about loans are already taking place. Not a very realistic option at this juncture.

India is collaborating with Russia in PAK-FA project and will spend a lot of money on this project, so there is nothing to stop this project.

 

[Moscow]

India is collaborating with Russia in PAK-FA project and will spend a lot of money on this project, so there is nothing to stop this project.

most of the requirements for pakfa is already prepared, the engine, radar, ammunition, airframe,working on the plasma stealth tech is at advanced step.
i maiden flight is in 2009 thats for sure.
i will post more links soon on this.

 

[Moscow]

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NPO "SATURN" - view the image

the engine for su 35 which the same engine with modifications will be used for pakfa

 

[Moscow]

NPO "SATURN" - view the image
thats the link sorry for the previous post made a mistake about the link


engines, known as 117S, have been developed by NPO Saturn Research and Production Association.

In terms of engineering, the engines are substantially modified AL-31F production engines employing fifth-generation technologies. They use a new fan, new high and low pressure turbines, and a new digital control system. A provision is made for using a vectored thrust nozzle. The modernization has increased the engine special mode thrust by 16&#37;, up to 14,500 kgf. In the maximum burner-free mode it reaches 8,800 kgf. Compared to today&#8217;s AL-31F engines, their capabilities will grow substantially, by 2 to 2.7 times. For instance, the between-repair period will grow from 500 to 1,000 hours (the operating period before the first overhaul is 1,500 hours). The designed period will vary between 1,500 and 4,000 hours.

The 117S engines will be co-produced by Ufa-based Motor Building Association and Rybinsk-based NPO Saturn Research and Production Association. The first production 117S engines were delivered to KnAAPO in early 2007 for testing on the first experimental Su-35 aircraft.

 

[nitesh]

Hey moscow any update on "Plasma Stealth". Please post it

 

[Moscow]

The Russian aircraft industry has developed and will soon start producing stealth aircraft which will radically differ from existing U.S. models. The Russian version uses plasma screens to cushion and disperse radar waves, the Novye Izvestia daily reports.

The newspaper quoted Anatoly Koroteyev, the head of the Keddysh Research Center as saying that the plasma screen technology can be used on any vehicle &#8212; from automobiles to combat aircraft. However, it is most effective at high altitudes and thus is best used by the air force.

Koroteyev said that the new technology employs a different physical principle than the one currently used by existing U.S. stealth aircraft &#8212; the F-117 and B-2. Instead of reflecting the radar wave the Russian technology completely disperses it by means of a plasma screen created by a mobile plasma generator


this is an update and current news as of 22 dec 2008.i am trying to get the russian article and source on this.

link Air-Attack.com News :: Russia Develops Stealth Aircraft Using Plasma Screen Technology