Russia offers MiG 35 to India, after Bangladesh

[B@tt!eDoom]

MiG-35 702 BLUE of Russian Air Force Bigstock
Experts say the fourth generation MiG 35 is a vastly updated version of the earlier MiG 29 series specialised aircrafts.
After first offering to sell the advanced MiG 35 fighter plane to Bangladesh in April this year, Russia has now offered the same to India.

First publicly presented at the 2007 Bangalore air show, the MiG 35 has since been much improved. According to one report, during Indian Defence Minister Arun Jaitley’s last visit to Moscow, officials of both countries discussed the possibility of India purchasing the plane to enhance its air force.

Experts say the fourth generation MiG 35 is a vastly updated version of the earlier MiG 29 series specialised aircrafts. It has highly advanced avionics and weapons systems, including the NESA radar. It has a multi-role profile and its new location system enables it to operate freely from inputs provided from ground, adding to its operational flexibility.

Interestingly enough, of all the countries in South Asia, Russia first offered to sell the plane to Bangladesh. The proposal was made right after the recent Hasina-Modi summit meeting on April 7 this year, where it was announced that the Indian government would extend a special $500 million line of credit to Bangladesh to enable it to strengthen its armed forces.

In addition to Bangladesh, Afghanistan has also secured much needed weapons for its army with India’s help via a similar arrangement.

At the time, the BNP had alleged that the Bangladesh government would end using the Indian line of credit to pay for obsolete arms and weapons. Bangladesh should not buy “old Russian warplanes,” BNP members had said, adding that India’s motives were “suspect”.

The opposition leaders had further alleged that there were some undeclared, hidden clauses in the deal worked out between Prime Ministers Sheikh Hasina and Narendra Modi and had urged that these be made public.

In the case of the MiG 35, however, the BNP’s charges do not seem convincing. Bangladesh and India aside, Egypt has already ordered 46 MiG 35s under a $2.5 billion deal with Russia. Each plane costs around $46 million. Other countries, including the UAE, which is in the process of signing a memorandum of understanding with Russia, and Kazhakstan, have also expressed interest. Had the plane been truly “obsolete” as the BNP claimed, this would never have been the case.

The allegation of obsolescence is further weakened by the Nizhni Novgorod Russian MiG producing unit’s current record: A reported 11,000 have been sold abroad out of an aggregate of 45,000 planes in 2016.

India too has just concluded a $10.5 billion arms purchasing deal with Russia.

In terms of Bangladesh, there is little doubt that between India and China there is a clear economic rivalry concerning project implementation, securing of orders and various other issues, including the sale of arms. China enjoys a big lead. Though India has pressed for a 25-year Defence Pact with Bangladesh, Prime Minister Hasina did not accept. While Bangladesh is keen to maintain cordial relations with its neighbours, it also clearly does not wish to put all its eggs in one basket.

Irrespective, Bangladesh is reportedly looking into buying 8 MiG 35s in the first phase.

http://www.dhakatribune.com/bangladesh/foreign-affairs/2017/06/25/russia-offers-mig35-india/

 

[simple Brain]

The announcement timing is perfect, an indication from Moscow that if you deal with US in purchasing F-16 you will lose a long lasting sincere allay.

India should consider this offer though!

 

[B@tt!eDoom]

The announcement timing is perfect, an indication from Moscow that if you deal with US in purchasing F-16 you will lose a long lasting sincere allay.

India should consider this offer though!

No mate..We know how to manage relation in the world of diplomacy...
Mig 35 & F16 both are different category btw..

 

[ito]

The announcement timing is perfect, an indication from Moscow that if you deal with US in purchasing F-16 you will lose a long lasting sincere allay.

India should consider this offer though!

India is looking for a single engine fighter to replace its Mig21 and 23s, that used to play as interceptors. F16 or Gripen are perfect replacements for Mig21 and 23s, not Mig35, which is very large fighter plane.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

The announcement timing is perfect, an indication from Moscow that if you deal with US in purchasing F-16 you will lose a long lasting sincere allay.

India should consider this offer though!

Yes, Germany REALLY blew it by continuing to buy Typhoons,
instead of scrapping them in favour of the MiG-29s they got
when East Germany was assimilated,

 

[simple Brain]

No mate..We know how to manage relation in the world of diplomacy...
Mig 35 & F16 both are different category btw..

Read out my comment above once again, I never said f-16 and mig-35 are the same category fighters, and we will see that how ell do you manage the world diplomacy, we all will surely know the outcome very soon.

India is looking for a single engine fighter to replace its Mig21 and 23s, that used to play as interceptors. F16 or Gripen are perfect replacements for Mig21 and 23s, not Mig35, which is very large fighter plane.

I never made a comparison between the two jets. Read out my comment it was all very political.

Yes, Germany REALLY blew it by continuing to buy Typhoons,
instead of scrapping them in favour of the MiG-29s they got
when East Germany was assimilated,

Ya you are right mate, but Germany had no choice at the time.

 

[B@tt!eDoom]

Read out my comment above once again, I never said f-16 and mig-35 are the same category fighters, and we will see that how ell do you manage the world diplomacy, we all will surely know the outcome very soon.

We have been doing since decades.You should have known by now.
And also you people have been repeating these since decades.

 

[EndangeredSpecies]

The announcement timing is perfect, an indication from Moscow that if you deal with US in purchasing F-16 you will lose a long lasting sincere allay.

India should consider this offer though!

Actually it is much more nuanced than this simplistic view. India decided not to buy planes but it is funding others who may want to buy it. Quite a nice diplomatic engineering I must say. Russia cares about sales, we 'make' it happen. By doing this we are currying the favor to Russian and buying influence in BD at the same time. Nice balancing of diplomatic ties with US and Russia.

 

[simple Brain]

We have been doing since decades.You should have known by now.
And also you people have been repeating these since decades.

What have you been doing? Buying American and Russian planes at the same time? Because my comment was totally about the fighter jets, and what are you talking about? Diplomacy? If that's the case, what have you gained out of it so far in terms of a fighter Jets, as this article is all about.

Actually it is much more nuanced than this simplistic view. India decided not to buy planes but it is funding others who may want to buy it. Quite a nice diplomatic engineering I must say. Russia cares about sales, we 'make' it happen. Both in Afghanistan and in Bangladesh. By doing this we are currying the favor to Russian and buying influence in BD at the same time. Nice balancing of diplomatic ties with US and Russia.

It will be better if you stick to the Indian topic, what will Afghanistan buy with the Indian money and how India will fund BD for its fighter jets can be discussed in another forum.

 

[B@tt!eDoom]

What have you been doing? Buying American and Russian planes at the same time? Because my comment was totally about the fighter jets, and what are you talking about? Diplomacy? If that's the case, what have you gained out of it so far in terms of a fighter Jets, as this article is all about.

an indication from Moscow that if you deal with US in purchasing F-16 you will lose a long lasting sincere allay.

Russia is well aware about that but they don't have any proper single engine fighter to offer to India.

 

[EndangeredSpecies]

It will be better if you stick to the Indian topic, what will Afghanistan but with the Indian money and how India will fund BD for its fighter jets can be discussed in another forum.

I am very much on topic regarding BD, if Afghanistan is causing so much of heartburn, I can remove that. My post is an attempt to analyze underlying diplomacy. You may ask a mod to vet it if it is on topic.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Egypt are buying both Rafale and MiG-35.
Russia do not have a problem with that.
Russians will sell to those that will buy.

 

[simple Brain]

I am very much on topic regarding BD, if Afghanistan is causing so much of heartburn, I can remove that. My post is an attempt to analyze underlying diplomacy. You may ask a mod to vet it if it is on topic.

I said since my initial comment was totally regarding India, you should stick to that point, as the debate prolongs. And as I have described it earlier that what BD will buy with Indian money or Afghanistan we can discuss that in another forum because of this;

BNP members had said, adding that India’s motives were “suspect”.

So if you want to have a debate on this issue you can open a new forum as this is future you are talking about.

Russia is well aware about that but they don't have any proper single engine fighter to offer to India.

Yes, now that could go in a favor of India for sure, agree!