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After several weeks of speculation on the PAK-FA program - here is a credible source commenting on the Indo-Russian JV and its timeline.


DATE: 11/12/09

SOURCE: Flight International

India and Russia plan to sign several agreements in the coming weeks that will deepen their co-operation on the PAK-FA fifth-generation fighter programme.

"The joint venture is going very well," says Alexander Klementiev, vice-president and deputy director-general at Sukhoi Aviation Holding. "We cannot go into the specifics of where we are, but both parties are happy now. In a few weeks, we will sign a few more agreements that will allow an even deeper partnership."

He adds: "Russia attaches great importance to the partnership with India on all fronts. There may be some delays at some points, but it is, overall, a very good relationship. We are confident this will continue in the coming years."

Klementiev counters several reports made in recent months that Indian scientists and engineers have been unhappy with the level of access they have been given on the PAK-FA programme, saying there is "no major issue".

Other Russian industry sources say there has been a renewed effort over the past few months to resolve some problems, which relate primarily to the transfer of technology to India. Upcoming agreements are likely to be linked to this issue, they add.

In 2007, India and Russia agreed to begin studying a derivative of Moscow's PAK-FA fighter. Although Russia is developing a single-seat fighter, India prefers a twin-seat aircraft with stealth capabilities that would incorporate technology from other suppliers in France, India and Israel.

Both India and Russia have not officially confirmed a timeline for when an Indian prototype will be ready, but industry sources suggest the likely target is 2016-17. Russia had been due to have the first flight of the PAK-FA by year-end, but industry sources say this is likely to be delayed into 2010.

Klementiev says Russia is keen to continue supporting India's fighter requirements, and points to the Sukhoi Su-30MKI programme as a successful example of the partnership between the countries. New Delhi has bought the Su-30s from Russia off the shelf, and is also licence-producing them at Hindustan Aeronautics' facilities.

Separately, the Indian air force's Su-30 fleet is operational once again after the second crash this year involving the type. The service grounded its fleet of about 100 aircraft on 2 December following a non-fatal crash on 30 November. The first accident took place in April. India plans to eventually have a fleet of almost 240 Su-30MKIs.

Russia, India to advance deal on PAK-FA fighter variant
 
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when you even can't make LCA combat ready, what you can get from such "deal"? PAK-FA has nothing to do with you guys, what you can do now is to ask your russian friends questions on how to make LCA combat ready.

oh, also a bad news for you guys: we finally solved the reliability issue of our WS-10A engine which are fitted on our J-11B fighters.
 
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when you even can't make LCA combat ready, what you can get from such "deal"? PAK-FA has nothing to do with you guys, what you can do now is to ask your russian friends questions on how to make LCA combat ready.

oh, also a bad news for you guys: we finally solved the reliability issue of our WS-10A engine which are fitted on our J-11B fighters.

it is not bad news for us... good for you... congrats dude on making some progress...
We are not concerned.....we have very Potent and Lethal fighter aircraft in our IAF.... do whatever u like... we will do what we like...PAK-FA is a joint venture between the two countries and i hope it is as succcessful as the Brahmos...:smitten:..that will make IAF even more lethal force....;):woot:
 
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when you even can't make LCA combat ready, what you can get from such "deal"? PAK-FA has nothing to do with you guys, what you can do now is to ask your russian friends questions on how to make LCA combat ready.

oh, also a bad news for you guys: we finally solved the reliability issue of our WS-10A engine which are fitted on our J-11B fighters.

Great look who's back, everyone.
It has'nt been long enough shcinese

A weather warning for our forum members.
Prepare for increased levels of BS. Supernova levels of BS

(note to all Indians, please dont argue with him, He gets of on it.)
 
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it is not bad news for us... good for you... congrats dude on making some progress...
We are not concerned.....we have very Potent and Lethal air craft in our IAF.... do whatever u like... we will do what we like...PAK-FA is a joint venture between the two countries and i hope it is as succcessful as the Brahmos...:smitten:..that will make IAF even more lethal force....;):woot:

lethal force? it is already a very leathal force. check how many crashes during training every year than compared the ratio with other countries.

:smokin: now let me provide you some free lecture on very damn simple facts:

1. 4th generation fighter technologies like PAK-FA will never be transformed to india.

2. how many you can order and how many they will deliver to you will not be decided by your.

3. how much per unit will not be decided by you.

4. in the best case, let's say you get the blueprint, can you just build you own? no you can't. the truth is india even couldn't build a 100/105/120/125mm tank gun, not to mention more advanced components like radars, AAMs, engines for the PAK-FA. be aware, we are talking about making those components in your own factories based on russian blueprints -- your industrial base is simply not ready for such stuff.

5. do you really believe the PAK-FA will be delivered to india in the next 10 years? and you expect russians to send their best fighters to your country?

:smokin: even the 10 years kids in China know this "joint venture" is all about using your money to develop their fighters and give nothing in return.

thing about your "aircraft carrier deal" with russians.
 
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when you even can't make LCA combat ready, what you can get from such "deal"? PAK-FA has nothing to do with you guys, what you can do now is to ask your russian masters questions on how to make LCA combat ready.

oh, also a bad news for you guys: we finally solved the reliability issue of our WS-10A engine which are fitted on our J-11B fighters.

OMG..he is here again...:hitwall:

Another thread destroyed....:hitwall:
 
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Great look who's back, everyone.
It has'nt been long enough shcinese

A weather warning for our forum members.
Prepare for increased levels of BS. Supernova levels of BS

(note to all Indians, please dont argue with him, He gets of on it.)

personal attacks show your narrowed mind mixed with some terrible curry beef smell.
 
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personal attacks show your narrowed mind mixed with some terrible curry beef smell.

do you really believe the PAK-FA will be delivered to india in the next 10 years? you
expect russians to send their best fighters to your country?

what is this then???

is that what is taught in communist run schools and colleges...??
 
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lethal force? it is already a very leathal force. check how many crashes during training every year than compared the ratio with other countries.

:smokin: now let me provide you some free lecture on very damn simple facts:

1. 4th generation fighter technologies like PAK-FA will never be transformed to india.

2. how many you can order and how many they will deliver to you will not be decided by your.

3. how much per unit will not be decided by you.

4. in the best case, let's say you get the blueprint, can you just build you own? no you can't. the truth is india even couldn't build a 100/105/120/125mm tank gun, not to mention more advanced components like radars, AAMs, engines for the PAK-FA. be aware, we are talking about making those components in your own factories based on russian blueprints -- your industrial base is simply not ready for such stuff.

5. do you really believe the PAK-FA will be delivered to india in the next 10 years? and you expect russians to send their best fighters to your country?

:smokin: even the 10 years kids in China know this "joint venture" is all about using your money to develop their fighters and give nothing in return.

thing about your "aircraft carrier deal" with russians.

Can you post sources for your tall claims or you just another lying conniving idiot of a ccp mouthpiece?
 
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Any ways lets get back to topic...

I heard that india too has its own fifth generation fighter project????
 
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Can you post sources for your tall claims or you just another lying conniving idiot of a ccp mouthpiece?

source? show me a 100/105/120/125mm tank gun made in india and I will eat my keyboard.

:smokin: don't talk like a loser, the brutal truth is LCA is still not combat ready after 25 years! now you expect to be able to design/make 4th generation fighters?
 
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lethal force? it is already a very leathal force. check how many crashes during training every year than compared the ratio with other countries.

:smokin: now let me provide you some free lecture on very damn simple facts:

1. 4th generation fighter technologies like PAK-FA will never be transformed to india.

2. how many you can order and how many they will deliver to you will not be decided by your.

3. how much per unit will not be decided by you.

4. in the best case, let's say you get the blueprint, can you just build you own? no you can't. the truth is india even couldn't build a 100/105/120/125mm tank gun, not to mention more advanced components like radars, AAMs, engines for the PAK-FA. be aware, we are talking about making those components in your own factories based on russian blueprints -- your industrial base is simply not ready for such stuff.

5. do you really believe the PAK-FA will be delivered to india in the next 10 years? and you expect russians to send their best fighters to your country?

:smokin: even the 10 years kids in China know this "joint venture" is all about using your money to develop their fighters and give nothing in return.

thing about your "aircraft carrier deal" with russians.

This is how people make their day happy in china.
 
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source? show me a 100/105/120/125mm tank gun made in india and I will eat my keyboard.

:smokin: don't talk like a loser, the brutal truth is LCA is still not combat ready after 25 years! now you expect to be able to design/make 4th generation fighters?

Let me say this once again,
If you dont know anything about the topics or subject being discussed, stay off, educate yourself and then comeback for meaningful discussion. Please dont make all those efforts to prove what others already know.
 
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