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19:26 Nov. 1, 2016

Russia hastily revamps Soviet missile and radar bases in Crimea – Reuters (photo)

Reuters published an important investigation titled "Putin's Russia: In Crimea, Russia signals military resolve with new and revamped bases"

SIMFEROPOL, Crimea – The missile bunkers that dot the verdant hills along Crimea's southern coast are known locally as Object 100. Until recently, tourists paid USD 50 to visit the crumbling and abandoned former Soviet sites, which served during the Cold War as a defence against naval attack from the Black Sea.



Now the bunkers are coming back online. After Russia took control of Crimea from Ukraine in 2014, signs went up in the woods around the sites warning visitors against entering a "forbidden zone of the Russian Ministry of Defence." A resident of a nearby village who said he was employed at the base last year said Russian soldiers had re-occupied the sites and blocked roads leading into the area. He was unable to say when the Russian soldiers arrived.


"It is a functioning military base with an anti-ship missile system," the villager told a Reuters reporter who visited the area in July.


ON THE LOOKOUT: A Russian radar installation near an airfield in the village of Novofedorovka, Crimea, July 6, 2016. REUTERS/Stringer

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The bunkers are just one small part of a new Russian programme to militarize the Crimean peninsula. Based on recent site observations by Reuters, accounts from locals, media reports and official Russian data, Moscow has reanimated multiple Soviet-built facilities in the region, built new bases and stationed soldiers there.



Crimea sits at the southern end of a line of new and refurbished Russian military facilities that stretches north in an arc through western Russia and ends in the country's Baltic outpost of Kaliningrad.

The military build-up is echoed in NATO countries such as Poland and the Baltic states, where U.S. forces are beefing up patrols and conducting more frequent exercises.

Spurred on by years of growing mutual distrust and in particular the conflict in Ukraine, both Russia and NATO are boosting their military capabilities across eastern Europe, prompting officials such as Polish President Andrzej Duda and Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev to talk of a return to open hostilities.

"We have, in effect, slid into a new Cold War," Medvedev told a security conference in Munich in February.

BUILDUP: Military vehicles near an airfield in Dzhankoy, Crimea, July 7, 2016. REUTERS/Stringer
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To be sure, the scale of the military confrontation is not the same. Disarmament deals in the past three decades have lowered the temperature of the nuclear confrontation. Absent too are the hundreds of thousands of troops who were stationed on either side of the Iron Curtain in eastern Europe during the Cold War. But elements of the conventional military standoff are now returning.

Crimea is one of the starkest examples. In a week touring the region, a Reuters reporter saw 18 sites, including naval bases, radar stations and airfields. Some were entirely new, some were old military sites that had been refurbished, and others were in the process of being refurbished.


Moscow has made no secret of its build-up in Crimea. But Reuters' observations, combined with the other information, shed light on its scale.

Britain's Defence Minister Michael Fallon said in September that London was concerned about military build-up in Crimea "and indeed the militarisation of the Black Sea region generally. Both Bulgaria and Romania feel very threatened."

INCREASED PRESENCE: Servicemen at a Russian military base in the village of Perevalne, Crimea, July 4, 2016. REUTERS/Stringer
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Crimea is now the closest Russian-controlled territory to NATO member Romania, which since May has hosted part of a U.S.-controlled international missile shield. The project is scheduled to become operational in late 2018, when work on a radar installation in Poland – the other main land-based component in the shield – is completed.

Washington says the shield is designed as a defence against Iranian missile strikes. But Russian President Vladimir Putin says the system and NATO are both threats to Russia's security, and has promised to retaliate.

Russia's defence ministry did not respond to a request for comment about its activities in Crimea. Nor did the regional government in Crimea.

UNDER CONSTRUCTION: A new building near a Russian military facility in the village of Perevalnoye, Crimea, July 4, 2016. REUTERS/Stringer
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RING OF RADARS

One part of Russia's expansion programme appears to be an attempt to re-create a chain of radar stations on rocky hilltops around Crimea. These stations offer an ideal vantage point for monitoring the Black Sea, and nearby NATO members Turkey, Bulgaria and Romania.

One of the stations – a facility with four revolving radars each encased in a large white dome – sits halfway up a mountain near the Crimean seaside town of Feodosiya. Built in Soviet times, the station had been abandoned by the Ukrainian military.

Now the Russian armed forces have moved in. In July, two green Russian military vehicles with tall antennas were parked beneath the radars. "There is a military base here, air defence system and missiles," said a man who lives in a village about 300 metres from the base. "There are air defence systems on every cape here."

Further around the coast, on the outskirts of the port city of Sevastopol, sits another radar station, called "Dnepr." Built by Soviet engineers, the station was out of order for years before the Russian annexation. A Reuters reporter saw dozens of soldiers in Russian military uniforms inside the base and guarding the perimeter.

TENTS: A Russian military base in Sevastopol, Crimea, July 5, 2016. REUTERS/Stringer
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Behind three lines of perimeter fencing were two structures, each around 300 meters long, with sloping sides partially covered by black metal sheets. The structures match archive images showing the Dnepr radar system. A Russian flag flew from the roof of a building near the two radar structures.

A sentry said that a nearby lighthouse that used to be a tourist attraction was now part of a military base and off limits to the public.

Russian newspaper ‘Izvestiya' quoted a military source in May as saying Moscow will restore the Dnepr station so it can "detect launches of ballistic, cruise and hypersonic missiles from the Black Sea and Mediterranean Sea area."

The Russian defence ministry did not respond to questions about the radar station.

NEW SCHOOLS AND SWIMMING POOLS

The Russian military build-up seen by Reuters goes beyond what existed in Crimea when it was under the control of Kiev, according to soldiers in Crimea, local residents and Ukrainian accounts of deployments before the annexation.

At Perevalne, a small village at the foot of a mountain not far from Simferopol in the centre of the peninsula, Russia is transforming an abandoned Ukrainian military facility into two new bases.

Inside the fenced perimeter of one in August, stood two 500-metre-long green hangars into which military vehicles drove. Nearby, trucks rumbled between a huge concrete plant and a construction site that will become a second base.


NEW USE: A Russian airforce plane parked at Belbek airport, formerly a civlian facility, near Sevastopol, Crimea, July 5, 2016. REUTERS/Stringer
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According to documents lodged by the defence ministry on the official website for public procurement tenders, one of the two bases will be for coast guards and the other for artillery units.

The ministry documents, which were lodged from October 2014, indicate the combined projects will include dormitories for more than 1,000 soldiers, residential buildings with more than 300 apartments, an ammunition depot, hangars for more than 500 military vehicles, an artillery range and dining facilities.

A new school and a kindergarten with a pool, as well as barracks for a military orchestra, are also planned, the documents show.

The ministry did not respond to questions about the Perevalne base.


BASES EXPANDING

Before Russia annexed Crimea, Moscow leased facilities from the Ukrainian state to house its Black Sea fleet, which has been based in Crimea for more than two centuries. Those facilities, mainly around Sevastopol, are now being expanded.

In one bay on the outskirts of the city, according to procurement documents, the Russian military is building a training centre for naval divers. There will also be a mooring area and an aircraft runway that has been unused for 20 years will be brought back into service.

From the perimeter fence, a Reuters reporter saw concrete taxiways, large cranes, and work underway to reinforce the shoreline.

The ministry did not reply to questions about the plans for that site.


MONITORING: Radar domes at a Russian military facility near Feodosia, Crimea, July 7, 2016. REUTERS/Stringer
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Most of the expansion in Crimea is being carried out by the Russian navy and ground forces. But air capabilities are also being beefed up.

The former Belbek civilian airport has been turned into a military air base, according to a Reuters reporter who went to the base. The terminal building has been shut and the entrance to the base is now guarded by a Russian marine.

An Il-76 heavy military transport plane, with the insignia of the Russian air force, was parked on the airfield when Reuters visited.

Two other military airfields that were abandoned by the Ukrainians are also now in use again by the Russian military. At the Novofedorivka airfield, in a coastal village to the north of Sevastopol, a Reuters reporter saw half a dozen dark-grey SU-30 fighter jets and light-grey SU-24 frontline bombers.

At the other recommissioned air base, in Dzhankoy, 40 km south of the de facto border separating Crimea from Ukrainian-controlled territory, Russian servicemen in blue uniform came and went throughout the day. Seven MI-24 attack helicopters were parked on the airfield.

"There were just two airplanes here when Ukraine ruled. And look at this place now, you can see much more here," a young soldier told Reuters at the checkpoint.

The defence ministry did not respond to questions about the air bases.



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https://sputniknews.com/russia/201611051047100746-russia-crimea-missiles/
Crimea has recently seen its defenses dramatically ramped up with the arrival of the state-of-the-art Bal and Bastion mobile coastal defense batteries, the Novorossiisk and Rostov-on-Don nuclear submarines, S-300, S-400, BukM2 and Pantsir-S1 air defense systems.

Bal The Bal mobile anti-ship missile system is designed to control territorial waters and protect naval bases and other coastal facilities and infrastructure. The Bal system was adopted by the Russian Armed Forces in 2008.

It consists of two self-propelled command and communication control centers, up to four self-propelled launchers, Kh-35/Kh-35E and Kh-35U/Kh-35UE missiles in transporter-launcher containers and four transport-erector units designed to prepare a secondary launch less than three seconds after the initial one.

The effective range of a Kh-35 missile is 120 kilometers and 260 kilometers for the Kh-35U.

Bastion

The Bastion is a mobile surface-to-ship missile system (NATO reporting name – SSC-5 Stooge). Development began during the 1990s and the first three systems entered active service on the Black Sea coast in 2010. The weapon is designed to destroy various surface ships, convoys and landing craft, aircraft carrier battle groups, single ships and surface targets under intense fire and electronic countermeasures. The Bastion launcher carries a pair of P-800 Onix/Yakhont anti-ship cruise missiles with an effective range of 300 km with hi-low flight trajectory and 120 km with low-low flight trajectory. A battery of Bastions consists of 4 mobile launchers, 1-2 command and control vehicles, 1 support vehicle and 4 transloaders. Launcher vehicles can be located up to 25 km away from the command and control vehicles. The whole Bastion battery is controlled from the main naval headquarters. Launcher vehicles can also operate autonomously. The Crimean peninsula seceded from Ukraine and reunified with Russia after more than 96 percent of local voters supported the move in a referendum in March 2014. Kiev, as well as the European Union, the United States and their allies, did not recognize the move and consider the peninsula to be occupied territory. They imposed a number of individual and economic sanctions against Russia, forcing Russia to retaliate with a ban on various imports from Europe.
 
17:54
"Utes" silo-based coastal missile complex in Crimea restored to combat readiness - source (Part 2)

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Utes – coastal stationary missile complex. The complex consisted of: MRC-1 (marine radar system) the “Success-U” radar (radar) “Cape” identification system “Password”, control system, launchers, missiles, ground support equipment. Launcher complex was placed in the rock shelters.
 
When you use missiles like with range 120 kms and 260kms it is better to have mobility and use mobile radars similar to S300 but anti sea version instead of static systems in my opinion.

Static systems have its place for example a VHF-OTH radar stationed in Crimea would cover most if not all Black Sea as well as provide air target data covering eastern Europe as well for early warning for S300 and interceptor aircraft. Since it is static it needs to be well protected by shorad systems. Calibr cruise missiles that cover a lot more range also have anti ship role and can be launched by the OTH. It is then up to the cruise missile seeker to pinpoint the location of the ship and attack the target. As far as I know in its terminal attack phase it reaches supersonic speed raising its survivability against ship based defenses.

If Crimea is planned as a forward base some military production can be shifted to that area as well. It would create jobs and economy in addition to already existing sectors in that area.
 
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November 19, 2016

16:30
Troops showcase S-400, "Pantsir" systems in Crimea

https://sputniknews.com/russia/201611191047609773-russia-utes-crimea-missiles-ready/
01:09 19.11.2016(updated 12:30 19.11.2016)
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MOSCOW (Sputnik) — The combat readiness of two Utes coastal silo-based missile systems in Crimea was restored and confirmed by successful launches of the P-35 cruise missiles, a source the Crimean in law enforcement agencies told RIA Novosti.

"It was agreed to set on duty the Utes coastal silo-based missile systems, located in Crimea. To confirm the operational readiness of the systems… the launches of P-35 cruise missiles were performed, and they were successful," the source said on Friday.

According to the source, there are currently two missile systems of the kind at the disposal of the Russian Black Sea fleet, each of them has two missile launch containers. The Utes missile systems with P-35 (NATO reporting name SS-N-3a Shaddock) cruise missiles are capable of hitting targets at a distance of 300 kilometers (186 miles) The P-35s are equipped with 560-kilos high-explosive warheads, and the flight speed of the missiles exceeds 2,000 kilometers per hour.
 
Interfax news

November 25, 2016
18:01
Ukraine decides to hold missile firing drill in Russian airspace over Crimea - Rosaviatsia
 
http://tass.com/defense/914881
Russia to place outer space control complexes in Altai, Far East, Buryatia and Crimea
Military & Defense
November 26, 21:58 UTC+3
"This will be a chain of next-generation specialized radio-electronic surveillance complexes," Andrei Ivashina, a deputy chief of the space segment of the Russian Aerospace Force said
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MOSCOW, November 26. /TASS/. Novel complexes of the Russian sysem of outer space control will be placed in the Altai Mountains, in the Far East of Russia, in the East Siberian region of Buryatia and in Crimea, Col Andrei Ivashina, a deputy chief of the space segment of the Russian Aerospace Force in charge of spaceflight testing said on Saturday.


"A chain of novel complexes of the system of outer space control will be installed in Russia in the next few years,
" he said on the General Staff show of the Life#Zvuk (Russian News Service) radio.

"This will be a chain of next-generation specialized radio-electronic surveillance complexes," he said. "Apart from the Altai, complexes of this kind will be installed in other parts of Russia in the Far East, in (the East-Siberian region of) Buryatia and in Crimea."

The main difference between the new complexes and the currently functioning instruments for outer space control is that they have new hardware components.

"It enabled us to increase their combat capability manifold compared with the complexes of earlier generations," Col Ivashina said. "Their commissioning will make it possible for the Russian Aerospace Force to control terrestrial space at all inclination rates and in the maximum altitude range," he said.

The outer space control system is an integral element of Russian aerospace defenses. It is a data processing system incorporating specialized interfaced components designated to do a never-stopping global assessment of the situation in outer space in times of peace and during military hostilities. To expand the zone of embrace of the system, the Aerospace Force is modernizing the instruments already in operation and creating novel specialized technologies with enhanced properties.

Specialists of the Aerospace Force control more than 80% of the Russian orbital grouping, which numbers 150 or so space vehicles, Col Andrei Ivashina said.

"The Russian orbital grouping has about 150 probes at present and 80% of them are under control of the Herman Titov Main Center for Spaceflight Testing," he said.
 
http://uatoday.tv/politics/russia-d...-of-ukraine-s-missile-tests-video-816263.html

Russia could be plotting a major provocation say volunteers


In the afternoon of November 29, movement of Russian military convoys was recorded in the Crimean city of Kerch.

Activists of the open-source intelligence "InformNapalm" community identified S-300VM "Antey-2500" anti-aircraft missile system among other military equipment spotted in military convoys moving across the occupied Crimean peninsula.

According to the activists, deployment of the anti-aircraft complex may be associated with an attempt to disrupt the Ukrainian missile tests over the Black Sea, scheduled for December 1-2.

InformNapalm warned that the appearance of the S-300VM in Crimea, directly ahead of the missile tests scheduled by the Ukrainian side, suggest that Russia is considering two possible scenarios: to shoot down a Ukrainian missile; or to stage a provocation involving downing of a passenger plane and blaming Ukraine's missile tests.

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The S-300VM "Antey-2500" [NATO reporting name SA-23 GladiatorGiant] is a Russian anti-ballistic missile system, designed to defeat short- and medium-range ballistic missile, aeroballistic, and cruise missiles, fixed-wing aircraft, as well as loitering ECM platforms and precision-guided munitions.

The activists report that the system is also designed to engage hi end warplanes, including those constructed with "Stealth" technology.

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http://uatoday.tv/politics/russia-calls-ukrainian-missile-exercises-provocation-816388.html
Russia can even conduct a missile strike, the sources say


Russia considers Ukrainian missile exercises near Crimean border a provocation aimed to escalate the conflict between the two countries, the Russian foreign ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova told the press.

"Concerning the so-called missile firing exercises, I would say that this is surely a regular big-scale provocation by the Ukrainian authorities. It was meant to escalate the conflict between Ukraine and Russia. Kyiv constantly heats this topic up, keeps it on top," she announced.


Ukraine provokes Russia for its 'tough response'. Maria Zakharova also added.

Meanwhile, Ukraine's defence ministry claimed that Russia may conduct a missile strike upon Ukrainian territory unless it abstains from December 1-2 drills near the border with Russian-occupied Crimea .

Ukraine's military attache was addressing a Russian diplomatic note on the upcoming missile exercises, the deputy minister of defence Olexander Dublian told the media on Wednesday.

He also stressed that Ukraine's exercises are planned and held in full accordance with international law. Dublian refused to answer, whether Ukraine would cancel the drills amid Russia's threats.

Dmitry Peskov, the spokesperson for Russian president Vladimir Putin, also didn't comment on the alleged possibility of the missile strike against Ukraine.

http://uatoday.tv/politics/russian-air-defence-on-heavy-security-regime-in-crimea-816483.html

The air defence units in Russian-occupied Crimea has been ordered to switch to high-security regime amid Ukraine's preparation for upcoming missile exercises, the Russian state-run TASS media report.

According to their sources, the Russian officials consider Ukraine's drill a specific PR act aimed to create a nervous environment. Although, the military command claim they possess a real potential threat.

The ground-based and waterborne air defence units are switched to heavy security regime, the military sources told Russian media.

As reported previously, on December 1-2, Ukraine plans to hold the missile firing exercises, a move that angered Russia and triggered deployment of anti-missile defence in the occupied Crimea.
 
SEVASTOPOL, November 30. /TASS/. Russia’s air defense forces in Crimea are ready for Ukraine’s missile launches in the Black Sea and have been put on high alert, a source in the Crimean defense structures told TASS on Wednesday.
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Sukhoi-30SM fighter jet
© Marina Lystseva/TASS

December 12, 15:46 UTC+3

The planes have already arrived at their permanent base


MOSCOW, December 12. /TASS/. Three newly-manufactured Sukhoi-30SM fighter jets have been delivered to the Black Sea Fleet’s aviation group, the fleet’s press-secretary Vyacheslav Trukhachyov said on Monday.


The planes have already arrived at their permanent base Saki in Crimea.

"The planes were manufactured at the Irkutsk Aircraft-Building Plant and handed over to the Black Sea Fleet under a program for upgrading its aviation group. Upon completing a long flight the jets joined a separate air assault regiment of the Black Sea Fleet," Trukhachev said.

The Sukhoi-30SM crews earlier underwent training at a center in Yeisk.

The Sukhoi-30SM is a generation 4++ highly-maneuverable multi-role fighter. The Black Sea Fleet has been using them since 2015.



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The Russian Armed Forces keep getting more advanced multi-role jet fighters Sukhoi-30SM. Last spring a squadron of eight such planes was formed at Russia’s Black Sea Fleet in Crimea. A jet fighter regiment stationed in the Rostov Region received two such planes.


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A dozen upgraded and newly-developed types of cruise missiles were provided for the ground forces and the Navy in 2015. A family of anti-ship and anti-radar missiles Kh-31A (also known as Kh-31M, NATO’s reporting name AS-17 Krypton) proved one of the latest products available from the OJSC Tactical Missiles Corporation (KTRV).

Kh-31PD was designed to hit air defense systems’ radars. Its range has been increased to 250 kilometers and the mass of the warhead, to 110 kilograms.

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The anti-ship Kh-31AD, as its designers say, by far outperforms its predecessors in terms of combat effectiveness and is in no way inferior to the latest foreign counterparts. Its task is to destroy surface and amphibious surface ships and transport ships operating as part of task forces or sailing on their own. In contrast to its prototype (Kh-31A) the yield of the warhead is 15% higher and the range (120-160), twice greater.

The Kh-31AD missiles arm the Sukhoi-30/35 and MiG-29K/35 families of fighter planes. According to 2015 reports, the anti-ship missiles Kh-31/35 may be stalled on Ka-52K helicopter gunships possessing a new onboard radar.

The Sukhoi-30SM has impressive flight range and duration parameters, such as a combat range of 1,500 kilometers. It can also be used for training pilots for single-seat fighter jets of the future.

Twelve suspension devices enable the plane to carry medium-range air-to-air missiles of the R-27 family (up to eight), R-77 (ten) and short-range R-73 missiles (up to six).

Armed with anti-radar and anti-ship missiles Kh-31P and Kh-31A (up to six) the Sukhoi-30SM can be used in operations to suppress enemy air defense and destroy surface ships. Also, the Sukhoi-30SM is capable of delivering pin-point strikes with:

  • Kh-59 family missiles (up to five);
  • Guided air bombs KAB-250 (up to six), KAB-500 (up to six) and KAB 1500 (up to three);
  • Kh-29T missiles with a TV-guided warhead (up to six);
  • Unguided air bombs (100 kg, 250 kg and 500 kg).
  • Sets of unguided missiles S-8 (set B-8M) and S-13 (B-13P), and S-24 and S-25 missiles.
 
The West has succeeded in driving Russia into a corner, and did so probably to keep defense spending up and increase it. We now have a new arms-race between EU+NATO and Russia, and i'm not going to say i disapprove completely. Yes, of course i believe like many others that tax-money is better spent on education, cheap housing, cheap quality food for the populace, but as far as how this increase in defense spending was orchestrated, i have to say : good job, to whomever did it.

Russia is now upgrading it's defenses in the Crimean peninsula. While it could be said that Russia has enough coastline on the black sea without having annexed the Crimean, the last thing the world needs is another Cuban missile crisis. Tensions are best kept cool, and hothead individuals should not be welcome at the table of architects for the next phases of this brinkmanship. I personally would like to see the entire conflict, the purpose of which is to foster and maintain strong domestic defenses in The West, and Russia (and China too for that matter), kept lukewarm, not ice-cold, not hot as far as the casualty counts go.

Russia, in my opinion, responded rightfully so far to the Western plans to install an ICBM defense shield in Eastern Europe. The election tampering that they did is in my view (up to a point!) a valid way to respond to the Western military buildup on Russia's eastern borders. This is the internet age as well as yet another age with more advanced weaponry. Influencing of your opponents via "soft" tactics (compared to all out war) is entirely acceptable and Russia had best prepare for some Western psy-ops during it's own next elections. Putin and the rest of Russia's leaderships know this, though. And they are no doubt prepared for it.
Anyways, each day and age (now measured per decade in geopolitics) bring their own variables of what technology and international media (which now includes social media) make possible 'to try'. And they have to get tried out, or we end up with more unknowns, more uncertainty, more risk during the next decade(s) when tensions rise again (to keep up defense spending, or for other reasons).

The score stands at 'missile defense shield programs - approved', 'social media to influence your opponents political landscape - approved', and the states on Russia's western border are aware of the consequences for choosing to side with the EU. I re-emphasize that the states along Russia's border might be best off under Russia's protection rather than the EU's protection. The EU will use you as cannonfodder, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and Ukraine.. And the promise of EU membership will be kept up in the air possibly for decades, making it a particularly dark false promise.. Russia probably less so, considering they bring trouble to their actual borders if they make cannonfodder of their neighboring nations.

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i recommend everyone (especially the media companies i send this email to) keep up with the NATO vs Russia "round 2 of the cold war" news, but not to lose sight of how the Cuban missile crisis and many nuclear-weapons crises after that were handled with cool (not cold) diplomacy to the benefit of everyone on Earth..


https://defence.pk/threads/russia-h...nd-radar-bases-in-crimea.459144/#post-9022792
[and i included my post's content in this thread to this email thread...]
 
The West has succeeded in driving Russia into a corner, and did so probably to keep defense spending up and increase it. We now have a new arms-race between EU+NATO and Russia, and i'm not going to say i disapprove completely. Yes, of course i believe like many others that tax-money is better spent on education, cheap housing, cheap quality food for the populace, but as far as how this increase in defense spending was orchestrated, i have to say : good job, to whomever did it.

Russia is now upgrading it's defenses in the Crimean peninsula. While it could be said that Russia has enough coastline on the black sea without having annexed the Crimean, the last thing the world needs is another Cuban missile crisis. Tensions are best kept cool, and hothead individuals should not be welcome at the table of architects for the next phases of this brinkmanship. I personally would like to see the entire conflict, the purpose of which is to foster and maintain strong domestic defenses in The West, and Russia (and China too for that matter), kept lukewarm, not ice-cold, not hot as far as the casualty counts go.

Russia, in my opinion, responded rightfully so far to the Western plans to install an ICBM defense shield in Eastern Europe. The election tampering that they did is in my view (up to a point!) a valid way to respond to the Western military buildup on Russia's eastern borders. This is the internet age as well as yet another age with more advanced weaponry. Influencing of your opponents via "soft" tactics (compared to all out war) is entirely acceptable and Russia had best prepare for some Western psy-ops during it's own next elections. Putin and the rest of Russia's leaderships know this, though. And they are no doubt prepared for it.
Anyways, each day and age (now measured per decade in geopolitics) bring their own variables of what technology and international media (which now includes social media) make possible 'to try'. And they have to get tried out, or we end up with more unknowns, more uncertainty, more risk during the next decade(s) when tensions rise again (to keep up defense spending, or for other reasons).

The score stands at 'missile defense shield programs - approved', 'social media to influence your opponents political landscape - approved', and the states on Russia's western border are aware of the consequences for choosing to side with the EU. I re-emphasize that the states along Russia's border might be best off under Russia's protection rather than the EU's protection. The EU will use you as cannonfodder, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and Ukraine.. And the promise of EU membership will be kept up in the air possibly for decades, making it a particularly dark false promise.. Russia probably less so, considering they bring trouble to their actual borders if they make cannonfodder of their neighboring nations.

The U.S.-Soviet Anti-Ballistic Missile (ABM) Treaty, which was in force from 1972 until the United States withdrew
from the treaty in 2002, prohibited sea-based defenses against strategic (i.e., long-range) ballistic missiles. Article V of the treaty states in part: “Each Party undertakes not to develop, test, or deploy ABM systems or components which are sea-based, air-based, space-based, or mobile land-based.” Article II defines an ABM system as “a system to counter strategic ballistic missiles ortheir elements in flight trajectory.

From January 2002 through November 2008, the Aegis BMD system has achieved 14 successful exo-atmospheric intercepts in 18 attempts. This total includes one successful intercept and one unsuccessful intercept by Japanese Aegis ships in two Japanese test flights. The Aegis BMD system has also achieved 2 successful endo-atmospheric intercepts in 2 attempts, for a combined total of 16 successful exo- and endo-atmospheric intercepts in 20 attempts.

the Bush Administration proposed to establish in Poland and the Czech Republic. Russian President Vladimir Putin opposes a ground-based GMD system in Europe and has suggested that the United States explore certain alternative approaches, including the use of BMD-capable Aegis ships. A June 21, 2007

December 17, 2007 Test.In this flight test, a BMD-capable Japanese Aegis destroyer used anSM-3 Block IA missile to successfully intercept a ballistic missile target in a flight test off the coast of Hawaii. It was the first time that a non-U.S. ship had intercepted a ballistic missile using the Aegis BMD system.

On February 20, 2008, an engage-capable Aegis cruiser operating northwest of Hawaii used a modified version of the Aegis BMD midcourse system to shoot down an inoperable U.S.surveillance satellite that was in a deteriorating orbit.


On September 17, 2009, the Obama Administration announced a new approach for regional BMD operations called the Phased Adaptive Approach (PAA). The first application of the approach is in Europe, and is called the European PAA (EPAA). EPAA calls for using BMD-capable Aegis ships, a land based radar in Europe,and eventually two Aegis Ashore sites in Romania and Poland to defend Europe against ballistic missile threats


On October 5, 2011, the United States,Spain, and NATO jointly announced that, as part of the EPAA, four BMD -
capable Aegis ships are to be forward-homeported (i.e., based) at the naval base at Rota, Spain.

I think it was the failure of the START II treaty which was for the reduction of ICBM's with Nuclear warheads and if i am not wrong it was in 2008 shortly before the Georgian War that Russian Federation conducted ICBM test which made United States uncomfortable and in response United States placed Aegis ships in Norway.


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Date: Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 6:11 PM
Subject: The Cold War seems restarted allright..
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i recommend everyone (especially the media companies i send this email to) keep up with the NATO vs Russia "round 2 of the cold war" news, but not to lose sight of how the Cuban missile crisis and many nuclear-weapons crises after that were handled with cool (not cold) diplomacy to the benefit of everyone on Earth..


https://defence.pk/threads/russia-h...nd-radar-bases-in-crimea.459144/#post-9022792
[and i included my post's content in this thread to this email thread...]

NATO came into existence to stop USSR from moving toward central and western Europe shortly after second world war.

In reality Cold war never ended , Russian Federation made many SSR states to move out of USSR by keeping the oil and gas reserves.
 
The U.S.-Soviet Anti-Ballistic Missile (ABM) Treaty, which was in force from 1972 until the United States withdrew
from the treaty in 2002, prohibited sea-based defenses against strategic (i.e., long-range) ballistic missiles. Article V of the treaty states in part: “Each Party undertakes not to develop, test, or deploy ABM systems or components which are sea-based, air-based, space-based, or mobile land-based.” Article II defines an ABM system as “a system to counter strategic ballistic missiles ortheir elements in flight trajectory.

From January 2002 through November 2008, the Aegis BMD system has achieved 14 successful exo-atmospheric intercepts in 18 attempts. This total includes one successful intercept and one unsuccessful intercept by Japanese Aegis ships in two Japanese test flights. The Aegis BMD system has also achieved 2 successful endo-atmospheric intercepts in 2 attempts, for a combined total of 16 successful exo- and endo-atmospheric intercepts in 20 attempts.

the Bush Administration proposed to establish in Poland and the Czech Republic. Russian President Vladimir Putin opposes a ground-based GMD system in Europe and has suggested that the United States explore certain alternative approaches, including the use of BMD-capable Aegis ships. A June 21, 2007

December 17, 2007 Test.In this flight test, a BMD-capable Japanese Aegis destroyer used anSM-3 Block IA missile to successfully intercept a ballistic missile target in a flight test off the coast of Hawaii. It was the first time that a non-U.S. ship had intercepted a ballistic missile using the Aegis BMD system.

On February 20, 2008, an engage-capable Aegis cruiser operating northwest of Hawaii used a modified version of the Aegis BMD midcourse system to shoot down an inoperable U.S.surveillance satellite that was in a deteriorating orbit.


On September 17, 2009, the Obama Administration announced a new approach for regional BMD operations called the Phased Adaptive Approach (PAA). The first application of the approach is in Europe, and is called the European PAA (EPAA). EPAA calls for using BMD-capable Aegis ships, a land based radar in Europe,and eventually two Aegis Ashore sites in Romania and Poland to defend Europe against ballistic missile threats


On October 5, 2011, the United States,Spain, and NATO jointly announced that, as part of the EPAA, four BMD -
capable Aegis ships are to be forward-homeported (i.e., based) at the naval base at Rota, Spain.

I think it was the failure of the START II treaty which was for the reduction of ICBM's with Nuclear warheads and if i am not wrong it was in 2008 shortly before the Georgian War that Russian Federation conducted ICBM test which made United States uncomfortable and in response United States placed Aegis ships in Norway.


Black_Sea_map.png




NATO came into existence to stop USSR from moving toward central and western Europe shortly after second world war.

In reality Cold war never ended , Russian Federation made many SSR states to move out of USSR by keeping the oil and gas reserves.

They were acting within treaty boundaries the whole time..
They could've given me a mass-media headline about that..
No wonder they stuck to their course (they = cia.gov)..

I thank you for this info, @Hindustani78

and i've emailed my mailinglist (see previous post by me in this thread) as well about this..
i'll do more background research next time, but some things, like this, are kinda hard to find even with google news searches
 
hm.. sorry, i typed in that last response while i was still waking up, and before my first coffee of the day..

i only just now read the lines in your report that the US withdrew from the treaty in 2002, and has moved beyond the treaty since then.

i need more time and more input to update my viewpoints in these matters.
sometimes, like now, it's best i shut up and go in read-only mode for a while.
 
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https://sputniknews.com/military/201612221048878101-black-sea-fleet-submarines/

MOSCOW (Sputnik) — Russia's Black Sea Fleet will receive three advanced submarines and two frigates during the next year, the fleet’s commander said Thursday.

"In 2017 we will get three submarines and two frigates," Adm. Aleksandr Vitko told reporters during a defense ministry meeting. He added that the Krasnodar and the Stary Oskol were among the expected submarines. According to the admiral, the Black Sea Fleet has received some 30 warships and vessels in 2016.

Russia is in the process of implementing a large-scale rearmament program, which was announced in 2010.

The country aims to modernize 70 percent of its military hardware by 2020. The cost of the modernization program is estimated at about 20 trillion rubles ($327 billion at the current exchange rates).
 

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