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China is expert at that...jst they can create dublicate version ...

and the reason india is so jealous about china is they are even incapable of copy, this shows how backward the country and people are``best example Mirage and Saab copy LCA
 
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China is studying and stealing from Russia

Sales of jet aircraft engine AL-31 Russia to China exceeded by several thousand units of new orders this year. All of this is due to the fact that China seeks to expand its fleet of modern jet fighters (J-10 and J-11). He also wants the pilots took off as often as possible to develop and maintain combat skills. But the engine of continuous operation wear out quickly. Well, another reason for the new orders are always difficulties arising from Chinese developers in the creation of a jet engine. China is particularly concerned to free themselves from Russian dependence in the development of engines with high performance for its advanced jet fighters. While you can not. With the increase in orders from the Russian Air Force Russian manufacturer AL-31 had to increase production this year, more than a third. In Russian also has a belief that the Chinese will not be able to solve some problems on engine development in the near future. And the fact that China is open (and unsuccessfully) protested against the restrictions which Russia imposed on the use of engines AL-31FN proves this thesis.

Russia wants guarantees that the AL-31FN will only be used for its intended purpose, ie to drive the Chinese combat aircraft, and it does not disassemble into parts, that the Chinese engineers were able to improve their illegal clones of the AL-31FN - WS-10A. China is stealing Russian military technology for many years, especially intensified this process with the end of the Cold War. Then Russia itself could not afford to buy new military equipment from their vendors, and only orders from China and India held the Russian companies of the military-industrial complex afloat. Now that you have more domestic orders from the Russian military, the producers in Russia feel confident in their abilities and be able to firmly defend its interests in relations with China. Another problem with the Chinese - do not want to admit that their own efforts to build its engines again and again suffer a failure. For example, last year China has revealed the secret that he had established in his fighter J-10 engines made ​​in China instead of WS-10A Russian AL-31FN. But this year, China has ordered several hundred of the AL-31FN to be delivered over the next two years. No more talk about using the WS-10A on a large scale.

The Chinese claim that the WS-10A exceeds the AL-31F. With that in WS-10A has a lot of things copied from Russian technology, the Chinese claim that they improved the engine. But these improvements have already been made ​​Russian, such as longer lifetime in the base engine AL-31 with 900 to 1500 hours, and, more recently, up to 2000 hours. In addition, the Chinese have not been able to learn some basic technology of jet engines with high performance. The reality is that the WS-10A has a number of serious and unexpected reliability problems, which are becoming apparent. China believes that he be freed from dependence on Russian military jet engines over the next five years, which implies that the Chinese engine manufacturers are still there is the possibility to solve this problem. For years, China has imported two Russian engine: the AL-31 for $ 3.5 million and RD-93 (RD-33 version for the MiG-29) for the JF-17 (aircraft F-16, developed in collaboration with Pakistan) for 2 5 million dollars. At some point, the Chinese engineers felt that they were able to master the technology needed to make a copy of the Chinese motor Russian AL-31. Chinese copy of the WS-10A is part of a program in which also created the WS-13 to replace the RD-93. Although the Chinese were able to make long-lasting engines, they are still having problems with reliability, but it is deadly for the engine fighter when his refusal to fight can be fatal.

China has long copied foreign technology, but not always successfully. But in the last ten years, China has invested quite a lot of money in the creation of jet engines. The Chinese are faced with many challenges, which were in Russian and in the beginning. Development of the necessary engine design and advanced training of engineers an easy task. However, China has some advantages. First of all, they knew Russian mistakes, and thus able to avoid many of them. Then do not forget the fact that China had more access to Western technology (both legal and illegal). Finally, China, unlike the Soviets, has the ability to create a production capacity of the engines in a market environment that is much more efficient than a command economy, which had in the Soviet Union and a heavy burden for the country in seven decades. The Chinese believe that the creation of the J-10 and WS-10A - part of the learning process, and they do learn from their mistakes. But to develop jet engines for commercial aircraft is much easier than those needed for combat aircraft, and China is facing more difficulties than he had expected.
 
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But China 'machinery' with human lost this game.

Chinese National Pleads Guilty to Stealing US Trade Secrets
VOA News


A Chinese-born scientist formerly employed by a research firm in the midwestern U.S. state of Indiana has pleaded guilty to stealing trade secrets and sending them illegally to China and Germany.

Kexue Huang pleaded guilty Tuesday to one count of economic espionage and one count of theft of trade secrets in a district court in Indiana.

The 48-year-old scientist was indicted in July of last year on charges of stealing trade secrets and other confidential information while working for Dow AgroScience between 2003 and 2008. A separate case filed in the state of Minnesota was unsealed Tuesday, charging Huang with stealing a trade secret from food producer Cargill between 2008 and 2009.

According to court documents, he transferred and delivered the stolen trade secrets to individuals in Germany and China between 2007 and 2010.

The combined loss from Huang’s criminal activity is reported to be between $7 million and $20 million.

If convicted, he faces a maximum prison sentence of 15 years on the economic espionage charge and 10 years on the theft of trade secrets charge.

russian spies in U.S, U.S spies in Russia they stealling each others, big deal, but hard to find any Viets spy, maybe they are too simple to do high risky and intelligent works````the Russian ex-president Pudin and future president to be was ex-KGB spy
 
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China is studying and stealing from Russia

Sales of jet aircraft engine AL-31 Russia to China exceeded by several thousand units of new orders this year. All of this is due to the fact that China seeks to expand its fleet of modern jet fighters (J-10 and J-11). He also wants the pilots took off as often as possible to develop and maintain combat skills. But the engine of continuous operation wear out quickly. Well, another reason for the new orders are always difficulties arising from Chinese developers in the creation of a jet engine. China is particularly concerned to free themselves from Russian dependence in the development of engines with high performance for its advanced jet fighters. While you can not. With the increase in orders from the Russian Air Force Russian manufacturer AL-31 had to increase production this year, more than a third. In Russian also has a belief that the Chinese will not be able to solve some problems on engine development in the near future. And the fact that China is open (and unsuccessfully) protested against the restrictions which Russia imposed on the use of engines AL-31FN proves this thesis. Russia wants guarantees that the AL-31FN will only be used for its intended purpose, ie to drive the Chinese combat aircraft, and it does not disassemble into parts, that the Chinese engineers were able to improve their illegal clones of the AL-31FN - WS-10A. China is stealing Russian military technology for many years, especially intensified this process with the end of the Cold War. Then Russia itself could not afford to buy new military equipment from their vendors, and only orders from China and India held the Russian companies of the military-industrial complex afloat. Now that you have more domestic orders from the Russian military, the producers in Russia feel confident in their abilities and be able to firmly defend its interests in relations with China. Another problem with the Chinese - do not want to admit that their own efforts to build its engines again and again suffer a failure. For example, last year China has revealed the secret that he had established in his fighter J-10 engines made ​​in China instead of WS-10A Russian AL-31FN. But this year, China has ordered several hundred of the AL-31FN to be delivered over the next two years. No more talk about using the WS-10A on a large scale.

The Chinese claim that the WS-10A exceeds the AL-31F. With that in WS-10A has a lot of things copied from Russian technology, the Chinese claim that they improved the engine. But these improvements have already been made ​​Russian, such as longer lifetime in the base engine AL-31 with 900 to 1500 hours, and, more recently, up to 2000 hours. In addition, the Chinese have not been able to learn some basic technology of jet engines with high performance. The reality is that the WS-10A has a number of serious and unexpected reliability problems, which are becoming apparent. China believes that he be freed from dependence on Russian military jet engines over the next five years, which implies that the Chinese engine manufacturers are still there is the possibility to solve this problem. For years, China has imported two Russian engine: the AL-31 for $ 3.5 million and RD-93 (RD-33 version for the MiG-29) for the JF-17 (aircraft F-16, developed in collaboration with Pakistan) for 2 5 million dollars. At some point, the Chinese engineers felt that they were able to master the technology needed to make a copy of the Chinese motor Russian AL-31. Chinese copy of the WS-10A is part of a program in which also created the WS-13 to replace the RD-93. Although the Chinese were able to make long-lasting engines, they are still having problems with reliability, but it is deadly for the engine fighter when his refusal to fight can be fatal. China has long copied foreign technology, but not always successfully. But in the last ten years, China has invested quite a lot of money in the creation of jet engines. The Chinese are faced with many challenges, which were in Russian and in the beginning. Development of the necessary engine design and advanced training of engineers an easy task. However, China has some advantages. First of all, they knew Russian mistakes, and thus able to avoid many of them. Then do not forget the fact that China had more access to Western technology (both legal and illegal). Finally, China, unlike the Soviets, has the ability to create a production capacity of the engines in a market environment that is much more efficient than a command economy, which had in the Soviet Union and a heavy burden for the country in seven decades. The Chinese believe that the creation of the J-10 and WS-10A - part of the learning process, and they do learn from their mistakes. But to develop jet engines for commercial aircraft is much easier than those needed for combat aircraft, and China is facing more difficulties than he had expected.

there one thread about China ordered 123 AL-31 engines and other one about China started mass production of WS-10 engines to equipt with J-11Bs and J-10Bs, go read about those to educate yourself on Chinese turbofan engine first then to read through this some blog news
 
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A child writing exam is caught copied .
He says teacher i didnt copy , every other is copying . Now who would believe him.
 
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russian spies in U.S, U.S spies in Russia they stealling each others, big deal, but hard to find any Viets spy, maybe they are too simple to do high risky and intelligent works````the Russian ex-president Pudin and future president to be was ex-KGB spy

Yes, China is biggest thief in the world.
 
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China is studying and stealing from Russia

Sales of jet aircraft engine AL-31 Russia to China exceeded by several thousand units of new orders this year. All of this is due to the fact that China seeks to expand its fleet of modern jet fighters (J-10 and J-11). He also wants the pilots took off as often as possible to develop and maintain combat skills. But the engine of continuous operation wear out quickly. Well, another reason for the new orders are always difficulties arising from Chinese developers in the creation of a jet engine. China is particularly concerned to free themselves from Russian dependence in the development of engines with high performance for its advanced jet fighters. While you can not. With the increase in orders from the Russian Air Force Russian manufacturer AL-31 had to increase production this year, more than a third. In Russian also has a belief that the Chinese will not be able to solve some problems on engine development in the near future. And the fact that China is open (and unsuccessfully) protested against the restrictions which Russia imposed on the use of engines AL-31FN proves this thesis.

Russia wants guarantees that the AL-31FN will only be used for its intended purpose, ie to drive the Chinese combat aircraft, and it does not disassemble into parts, that the Chinese engineers were able to improve their illegal clones of the AL-31FN - WS-10A. China is stealing Russian military technology for many years, especially intensified this process with the end of the Cold War. Then Russia itself could not afford to buy new military equipment from their vendors, and only orders from China and India held the Russian companies of the military-industrial complex afloat. Now that you have more domestic orders from the Russian military, the producers in Russia feel confident in their abilities and be able to firmly defend its interests in relations with China. Another problem with the Chinese - do not want to admit that their own efforts to build its engines again and again suffer a failure. For example, last year China has revealed the secret that he had established in his fighter J-10 engines made ​​in China instead of WS-10A Russian AL-31FN. But this year, China has ordered several hundred of the AL-31FN to be delivered over the next two years. No more talk about using the WS-10A on a large scale.

The Chinese claim that the WS-10A exceeds the AL-31F. With that in WS-10A has a lot of things copied from Russian technology, the Chinese claim that they improved the engine. But these improvements have already been made ​​Russian, such as longer lifetime in the base engine AL-31 with 900 to 1500 hours, and, more recently, up to 2000 hours. In addition, the Chinese have not been able to learn some basic technology of jet engines with high performance. The reality is that the WS-10A has a number of serious and unexpected reliability problems, which are becoming apparent. China believes that he be freed from dependence on Russian military jet engines over the next five years, which implies that the Chinese engine manufacturers are still there is the possibility to solve this problem. For years, China has imported two Russian engine: the AL-31 for $ 3.5 million and RD-93 (RD-33 version for the MiG-29) for the JF-17 (aircraft F-16, developed in collaboration with Pakistan) for 2 5 million dollars. At some point, the Chinese engineers felt that they were able to master the technology needed to make a copy of the Chinese motor Russian AL-31. Chinese copy of the WS-10A is part of a program in which also created the WS-13 to replace the RD-93. Although the Chinese were able to make long-lasting engines, they are still having problems with reliability, but it is deadly for the engine fighter when his refusal to fight can be fatal.

China has long copied foreign technology, but not always successfully. But in the last ten years, China has invested quite a lot of money in the creation of jet engines. The Chinese are faced with many challenges, which were in Russian and in the beginning. Development of the necessary engine design and advanced training of engineers an easy task. However, China has some advantages. First of all, they knew Russian mistakes, and thus able to avoid many of them. Then do not forget the fact that China had more access to Western technology (both legal and illegal). Finally, China, unlike the Soviets, has the ability to create a production capacity of the engines in a market environment that is much more efficient than a command economy, which had in the Soviet Union and a heavy burden for the country in seven decades. The Chinese believe that the creation of the J-10 and WS-10A - part of the learning process, and they do learn from their mistakes. But to develop jet engines for commercial aircraft is much easier than those needed for combat aircraft, and China is facing more difficulties than he had expected.


How Indian thieves stole nuclear technoloy from Canada/US

Candu: The Canadian Nuclear Reactor | CBC Archives


An uninvited guest has joined the nuclear club, and fingers are
pointing at Canada. On May 18th 1974, India detonates a 12-kiloton
nuclear explosive in the Rajasthan desert. It was built using
plutonium from a research reactor donated by Canada in 1956. The
explosion prompts fierce criticism of Canada's nuclear exports, and a
wall of excuses from officials in both Canada and India. Canadian
officials say they couldn't stop it. India denies it was even a bomb.

The nuclear device was built using plutonium obtained from the
40-megawatt Cirus research reactor, a gift from Canada. It was donated
under the Commonweath "Colombo Plan" aid program, which sought to
promote economic and social development in South and Southeast Asia.
The gift helped pave the way for future reactor sales: Canada sold
India two Candu reactors (in 1963 and 1966), and they now have a
number of Candu clones.

The Cirus reactor (which was not a Candu) was modeled on the Chalk
River NRX reactor. It was donated on the condition that it only be
used for peaceful purposes – so India claimed their 1974 explosion was
"peaceful" and would help them in industries such as mining.
India referred to the device as the "Peaceful Nuclear Explosive" or
PNE. It was also called "Smiling Buddha."
 
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there one thread about China ordered 123 AL-31 engines and other one about China started mass production of WS-10 engines to equipt with J-11Bs and J-10Bs, go read about those to educate yourself on Chinese turbofan engine first then to read through this some blog news

The chinese ordered 100s of Al 31,coz
guess what the Ws 10 is a failed project.
 
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dont worry lca would be called coffin maker for ur J10 & j11's pilots:D

from 1982 LCA TEJAS devolpment started and nearly we are in 2012 even 30 years later its not being weaponised yet and still going through devolpment and trails lol why dont indian accept they cant even compete pakistan let alone china
 
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Yes, China is biggest thief in the world.
LOL
YOUR Vietnam‘s EVERYTHING are our CHINESE COPIES.....flag,economic system, system of military,......your airports were also built by our china in Vietnam war,,,,,How could your Vietnamese have the face to say us?
 
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Yes, China is biggest thief in the world.
lol i think u forget the dad of agent orange US?US and India is the biggest thief and vietnam is like a fly on chinese arm dont make ur country a destination of choice for AGENT RED
 
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