Russia 'collects DNA samples' of Muslim women ahead of Sochi Olympics.

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Russia 'collects DNA samples' of Muslim women.

Saliva samples of conservative women taken in wake of spate of suicide attacks in run-up to Sochi Winter Olympics.

Vladimir Putin tightened country's security to prevent attacks sabotaging Sochi Winter Olympics in February [AP]

Russia is allegedly taking saliva samples from religiously conservative Muslim women to help its security forces identify remnants of suicide bombers in case of an attack sabotaging the Sochi Winter Olympics, Reuters news agency has reported, quoting locals in the North Caucasus.

The meassure came after a female blew herself up on a bus in Volgograd, a major city north of Sochi, on October 21 killing at least six people.

Dubbed "black widows", about 49 female suicide bombers have carried out attacks in Russia in the past 13 years, according to the Caucasian Knot website, which tracks the unrest.

In response, security forces have blown up the homes of attackers' relatives, sealed off mountain villages and rounded up young men suspected of having ties to armed fighters.

Critics say authorities are feeding the resentment that lies behind rebel attacks in the North Caucasus region.

"Allah does not allow us to take up arms. If he allowed it, we would," Albina Magomedova, a Salafi woman from Dagestan, told Reuters.

But other women said revenge attacks by women were allowed under Islam.

In July, Doku Umarov, the leader of Russia's rebel fighters, urged his armed men to use "maximum force" to
sabotage the Olympics.

"By the Olympics, the most important thing for our image is for the situation to be calm and normal in Dagestan," said Ramazan Dzhafarov, Dagestan's deputy prime minister.

President Vladimir Putin, who believes the $50bn Winter Olympics will bring prestige to Russia, tightened the courtry's security to prevent any attacks.

Vladimir Kolokoltsev, Russia's interior minister, told parliament that authorities were receiving "alarming information and were working to eliminate leaders and members of armed groups".

"There are simply no other ways to combat these inhuman monsters," Kolokoltsev said.

Security analysts say armed fighters are unlikely to penetrate the layers of protection around Sochi, but attacks cannot be ruled out, especially in nearby cities like Volgograd.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europ...samples-muslim-women-2013103181444480202.html

 

[xTra]

It is better to be Safe, then to be Sorry later.

 

[chhota bheem]

but is it not taking it to the extreme.

 

[Kambojaric]

Considering Sochi is geographically located in lands formerly inhabited by the Muslim Adyghe people who were subjected to mass ethnic cleansing/genocide by the Russians in the 1800s, its no wonder the Russians are scared about the security situation there. Wouldnt it have just been smarter to host this event somewhere else? I mean its not like Russia is lacking in snow!

 

[Kolaps]

It's time for Russia to learn from US.

US did it very well, that bring extremely peaceful period for years after 9/11, until the Boston bomb.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Considering Sochi is geographically located in lands formerly inhabited by the Muslim Adyghe people who were subjected to mass ethnic cleansing/genocide by the Russians in the 1800s, its no wonder the Russians are scared about the security situation there. Wouldnt it have just been smarter to host this event somewhere else? I mean its not like Russia is lacking in snow!

More like sh1t scared... google abt the security arrangments russians are making for this "event"...

 

[vostok]

Considering Sochi is geographically located in lands formerly inhabited by the Muslim Adyghe people who were subjected to mass ethnic cleansing/genocide by the Russians in the 1800s, its no wonder the Russians are scared about the security situation there. Wouldnt it have just been smarter to host this event somewhere else? I mean its not like Russia is lacking in snow!

Genocide - this is what the Anglo-Saxons did to the Indians in America. And here we are talking about the conquest of / accession lands. Disgruntled just left to Turkey. They were not destroyed.

 

[Kambojaric]

Genocide - this is what the Anglo-Saxons did to the Indians in America. And here we are talking about the conquest of / accession lands. Disgruntled just left to Turkey. They were not destroyed.

The parallels between the Native American genocide in North America and the Adyghe Genocide in Circassia are indeed very strong. Both were part of a colonizing campaign (or "accession of land" as you put it), which involved the destruction of the native population and not surprisingly both the Americans and the Russians had very similar views regarding the native Indians and the Adyghe respectively, as pointed out by George Ditson. He was an American traveller sympathetic to Russian activities in the Caucases during the 1850s, and he even quoted the Russian Prince Kochubey who stated how the native Americans and the circassians were the same kind of "uncivilized" people and only "extermination" would keep "them" quite.

Of course if a people are being massacred/exterminated, the chances of them becoming "disgruntled" and deciding to leave the land would be quite high. Anyways this is a good article that covers the basic history of the original native people of Sochi.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/merissa-khurma/the-sochi-connection_b_4046063.html

 

[vostok]

The parallels between the Native American genocide in North America and the Adyghe Genocide in Circassia are indeed very strong. Both were part of a colonizing campaign (or "accession of land" as you put it), which involved the destruction of the native population and not surprisingly both the Americans and the Russians had very similar views regarding the native Indians and the Adyghe respectively, as pointed out by George Ditson. He was an American traveller sympathetic to Russian activities in the Caucases during the 1850s, and he even quoted the Russian Prince Kochubey who stated how the native Americans and the circassians were the same kind of "uncivilized" people and only "extermination" would keep "them" quite.

Of course if a people are being massacred/exterminated, the chances of them becoming "disgruntled" and deciding to leave the land would be quite high. Anyways this is a good article that covers the basic history of the original native people of Sochi.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/merissa-khurma/the-sochi-connection_b_4046063.html

I recommend you to review the map of the Russian Federation. There are three national republics of the Circassians. How many republics of the Indians in the U.S.? How many universtites and parliaments they have?
Circassians served in the Russian army and Circassian cavalry was one of the strongest shock units. I think this is not possible, if you have made the genocide of the people.
The Circassians were personal guards of the higher nobility of the Russian Empire.

 

[Roybot]

The parallels between the Native American genocide in North America and the Adyghe Genocide in Circassia are indeed very strong. Both were part of a colonizing campaign (or "accession of land" as you put it), which involved the destruction of the native population and not surprisingly both the Americans and the Russians had very similar views regarding the native Indians and the Adyghe respectively, as pointed out by George Ditson. He was an American traveller sympathetic to Russian activities in the Caucases during the 1850s, and he even quoted the Russian Prince Kochubey who stated how the native Americans and the circassians were the same kind of "uncivilized" people and only "extermination" would keep "them" quite.

Of course if a people are being massacred/exterminated, the chances of them becoming "disgruntled" and deciding to leave the land would be quite high. Anyways this is a good article that covers the basic history of the original native people of Sochi.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/merissa-khurma/the-sochi-connection_b_4046063.html

But how long should one hold grudge for? Whatever happened couple of centuries ago is no justification for terrorism today. Had that been the case, a lot of "Muslim" cities and countries today, which were not Muslim in the past, would be a prime target of terrorist attacks.

 

[vostok]

Roderick Murchinson
The famous English geologist , who traveled all over Russia , speaking at a large rally in London's Hyde Park in 1853 against the entry of Great Britain in the Crimean War , said:

"Even if Russia expands its ownership by the neighboring colonies , in contrast to other colonial powers that it gives to its newly acquired more than take away from them. And not because it is driven by a kind of philanthropy, or something like that . The original aspirations of all empires little different, but where there is Russian people, all miraculously gets a completely different direction . Developed in the eastern Slavs since pre-Christian times of moral norms do not allow a man to rape another Russian conscience and encroach on the property , he rightfully does not belong . The most common of which is rooted in its ineradicable sense of compassion , he is willing to give the shirt off and give it than take anyone's away . Therefore , whatever the victorious Russian weapons, in a purely mercantile terms Russia is always the loser. Defeated by, or is taken under the protection of the ultimate usually win , keeping intact their way of life and spiritual institutions , despite their apparent lack of progress , as is easily convinced , having become acquainted with them more or less thoroughly , increasing their material wealth and significantly advancing the path of civilization. Illustrative examples of this at least Estland and the Caucasus, in the course of centuries, despised and raped by their neighbors , but a place of honor among the nations , and have achieved incomparable with the former being under the protection of Russia , while the acquisition of Estland and Caucasus and position of the Russian people , that is indigenous metropolis , has not improved at all. Recently, it seems a paradox, but it is the reality , the underlying causes of which lie , of course, in the features of Russian morality "
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[Kambojaric]

I recommend you to review the map of the Russian Federation. There are three national republics of the Circassians. How many republics of the Indians in the U.S.? How many universtites and parliaments they have?
Circassians served in the Russian army and Circassian cavalry was one of the strongest shock units. I think this is not possible, if you have made the genocide of the people.
The Circassians were personal guards of the higher nobility of the Russian Empire.

Yes I am aware of these republics, and they do not cover Sochi or its surroundings which were also part of the original Circassian lands. As for America, it too has granted the native Americans local rule in their reservations. Regarding how following generations integrated into Russia is a different topic. After all hundreds of thousands of Africans and Asians served in the colonial armies of France and Britain despite their own people being subject to oppression and massacres. Why did they join? Probably a multitude of reasons but one would be poverty and hoping to get a better life after the war.

The point im trying to make and this answers your post as well @Roybot, is that I am most definitely not supporting or sympathizing with any terrorist or rebel attacks in Sochi because of the past history of the city. Rather I am suggesting that people with such a mentality do exist and that the Russians could have avoided aggravating the situation further by holding the games in a city other than Sochi, since Russia does not lack snow!!! Rather I am becoming more and more inclined into believing that there is a political reason behind choosing Sochi, a city where snow is not even confirmed in Februrary. Otherwise and I know this is an exagerated example but it would be a bit like the US hosting the beach summer games in Anchorage when it already has Miami or Los Angeles.

This article expands a bit on the possible political motives behind hosting the game in Sochi specifically (http://www.economist.com/news/europ...istory-offer-rich-pickings-select-few-castles).