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Rupee firms against US dollar

read your own post draw relevance and post news article ..... BTW we have a tradition to post link against posted news articles

I already given the link..


https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&s...MQFjAF&usg=AFQjCNF8yjfip9HllpJCg5ZR8jwZBJcZEQ

He replied to one of your posts but you have been using jan data from the beginning of this argument as if the rest of the months worth nothing.
Nothing bro.. Not debating.. Just a communication gap.. Let us solve this..
 
@Lil Mathew, now you are going on another tangent. The growth rate won't jump to high in just one year but it is going to be a healthy 4-4.5%. You are repeating the same thing about export going down without hard stats, let's wait till the end of the final quarter and the stats will come in, otherwise it's all conjectures and hypothesis.

Again the most important thing is not a snapshot of a given moment but the trend. If the trend is in the positive direction then it means things are improving.

An another independent analysis from a non govt official..

The rise of the rupee: A politically potent
economical stupidity
By Asif H Sheikh Published: March 30, 2014

Would the rise in the rupee make our debt
payments easier?
Last week I received a call from a friend in
Karachi.
“What is going on with the dollar?! Should I
buy dollars? Why is it falling like this?”
My answer was simple.
“The dollar isn’t falling; it’s the rupee that
is rising.”
What’s the difference?
Difference is its implication.
Hailing from a regime that had made promises of
ending load shedding within 90 days of coming to
power, the fact that Finance Minister Ishaq Dar
made good on his December 2013 promise to
bring the dollar down to Rs98 deserves an
applause.
While those who consider the currency exchange
rate as something of a competitive sport where
appreciation of the rupee is something to
celebrate, then fantastic; Ishaq Dar should
continue doing whatever he has done. But those
of us who can appreciate the fact that fluctuation
in foreign exchange markets have economic
implications, a deeper analysis is needed.
To understand this better, let’s look at how the
rupee was made to rise in its relative value.
During his speech, the minister called on those
who have dollars in possession to quickly cash in
because he warned of losses when the rupee
would rise. This led to the speculative selling of
the dollar. The government further aided this
measure by bombarding the markets with the $
1.5 billion received as a ‘gift’ from Saudi Arabia.
The simple principle of supply-demand prevailed
and the dollar dropped.
This was further abetted by the fact that major
debt payments for March 2014 had already been
made. Speculations of the US releasing Coalition
Support Funds and the release of funds from the
Asian Development Bank as well as the World
Bank caused the rupee to rally further in the
market.
Now you may ask, what’s the problem?
Wouldn’t the rise in the rupee make our debt
payments easier?
Wouldn’t it even make our fuel cheaper?
The problem is that the way that the rupee was
artificially made to appreciate is not sustainable.

Gifts, known in economics as unilateral transfers,
are windfall profits as they are not a continuous
stream and therefore their impacts are likely to be
a one-off event.
If the government had actually
not allowed the funds to come into the Pakistani
foreign exchange market and instead used it to
buy foreign bonds, they could have been a steady
income earning source as well as security for the
treasury.
The drawback of what the government did is that
without further funds coming in, if they push up
the rupee, speculators and traders will do what
they do best and start betting against the rupee
and cause it to depreciate in a relatively short
span of time.
Black markets have already started doing this.
Just a few days ago, some currency exchanges in
Karachi and Lahore were demanding Rs104 per
dollar.
The reason for this is that rise of the rupee was
indeed artificial for political gains. None of the
economic indicators needed to organically
appreciate a currency have changed in Pakistan.

In fact, the rapid fluctuations in the currency are
detrimental to inviting foreign investments in the
country. It’s a sign of instability.

Yes the depreciation of dollar would mean the
immediate lowering of our import bill, which
would mean cheaper petrol at the pumps. But
Keynesian economics teaches us that in the
short-term, prices are ‘sticky’, meaning that for
an event such as a sudden rise in rupees value to
have an impact on prices it has to be a
maintained over a long run. On the contrary,
artificially depreciated rupee makes Pakistan’s
immediate imports more expensive giving rise to
domestic inflation.

The economic issues being faced in Pakistan are
multifaceted and there is a dire need for the
government to shore up the fundamentals.

Policies that boost exports and encourage foreign
direct investment are the ones that will create the
jobs so badly needed. Short term measures like
intervening in the foreign exchange market and
youth loan schemes may look good on the
headlines but they do little to better the lives of
the masses.
For some inexplicable reason the mantra for
‘ trade not aid’ seems to be reserved for dealings
with the US and EU while the government is
perfectly content with charitable gifts from the
Saudi’s.
 
An another independent analysis from a non govt official..

The rise of the rupee: A politically potent
economical stupidity
By Asif H Sheikh Published: March 30, 2014

Would the rise in the rupee make our debt
payments easier?
Last week I received a call from a friend in
Karachi.
“What is going on with the dollar?! Should I
buy dollars? Why is it falling like this?”
My answer was simple.
“The dollar isn’t falling; it’s the rupee that
is rising.”
What’s the difference?
Difference is its implication.
Hailing from a regime that had made promises of
ending load shedding within 90 days of coming to
power, the fact that Finance Minister Ishaq Dar
made good on his December 2013 promise to
bring the dollar down to Rs98 deserves an
applause.
While those who consider the currency exchange
rate as something of a competitive sport where
appreciation of the rupee is something to
celebrate, then fantastic; Ishaq Dar should
continue doing whatever he has done. But those
of us who can appreciate the fact that fluctuation
in foreign exchange markets have economic
implications, a deeper analysis is needed.
To understand this better, let’s look at how the
rupee was made to rise in its relative value.
During his speech, the minister called on those
who have dollars in possession to quickly cash in
because he warned of losses when the rupee
would rise. This led to the speculative selling of
the dollar. The government further aided this
measure by bombarding the markets with the $
1.5 billion received as a ‘gift’ from Saudi Arabia.
The simple principle of supply-demand prevailed
and the dollar dropped.
This was further abetted by the fact that major
debt payments for March 2014 had already been
made. Speculations of the US releasing Coalition
Support Funds and the release of funds from the
Asian Development Bank as well as the World
Bank caused the rupee to rally further in the
market.
Now you may ask, what’s the problem?
Wouldn’t the rise in the rupee make our debt
payments easier?
Wouldn’t it even make our fuel cheaper?
The problem is that the way that the rupee was
artificially made to appreciate is not sustainable.

Gifts, known in economics as unilateral transfers,
are windfall profits as they are not a continuous
stream and therefore their impacts are likely to be
a one-off event.
If the government had actually
not allowed the funds to come into the Pakistani
foreign exchange market and instead used it to
buy foreign bonds, they could have been a steady
income earning source as well as security for the
treasury.
The drawback of what the government did is that
without further funds coming in, if they push up
the rupee, speculators and traders will do what
they do best and start betting against the rupee
and cause it to depreciate in a relatively short
span of time.
Black markets have already started doing this.
Just a few days ago, some currency exchanges in
Karachi and Lahore were demanding Rs104 per
dollar.
The reason for this is that rise of the rupee was
indeed artificial for political gains. None of the
economic indicators needed to organically
appreciate a currency have changed in Pakistan.

In fact, the rapid fluctuations in the currency are
detrimental to inviting foreign investments in the
country. It’s a sign of instability.

Yes the depreciation of dollar would mean the
immediate lowering of our import bill, which
would mean cheaper petrol at the pumps. But
Keynesian economics teaches us that in the
short-term, prices are ‘sticky’, meaning that for
an event such as a sudden rise in rupees value to
have an impact on prices it has to be a
maintained over a long run. On the contrary,
artificially depreciated rupee makes Pakistan’s
immediate imports more expensive giving rise to
domestic inflation.

The economic issues being faced in Pakistan are
multifaceted and there is a dire need for the
government to shore up the fundamentals.

Policies that boost exports and encourage foreign
direct investment are the ones that will create the
jobs so badly needed. Short term measures like
intervening in the foreign exchange market and
youth loan schemes may look good on the
headlines but they do little to better the lives of
the masses.
For some inexplicable reason the mantra for
‘ trade not aid’ seems to be reserved for dealings
with the US and EU while the government is
perfectly content with charitable gifts from the
Saudi’s.

Govt did some good move and still no body is discussing that. These are some step GoP did.

Direct payment: Before that Govt used to flow in money and then pay the outstanding bills and what Govt did is now not inflowing the money and directly forwarding that money to pay due.
Advantage: We don't have to pay exchange rate and it will help Pakistan to recover some money.

Increase Legal Inflow: Due to agreement with S.A, they legalize lot of Pakistani illegally and which may result that lot of people now send money back to Pakistan in legal way

Exporting Workforce: GoP made agreement to Bahrain for exporting workforce and this may result more inflow in cash.

3G & 4G License: This will give additional Cash inflow of 1.5 to 2.5 Billion dollar

Chinese Investments: Confirmed Chinese investment of $ 35 Billion + in Pakistan in Next five years

Increase credit time period for Oil and Gas: Govt. made agreement with SA to increase time payment duration which result less pressure to our foreign reserve

These are some major decision made by Govt.
 
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Nothing bro.. Not debating.. Just a communication gap.. Let us solve this..

My dear its not the communication gap, its the stubbornness of one participant of the discussion to make other believe whatever wrong information he is posting and to make other agree whatever stance he adopt with every single post .......

I have posted 'official figures' but you want me believe news articles written by some Tom, Dick or Harry, who could not even differentiate b/w trade deficit, Current account deficit or Balance of Payment. You are repeatedly posting $ 2.1 billion as trade deficit for January-14, which is in fact is BOP deficit for the period of July -13 till Jan-14.

My dear in economic analysis experts compare period wise performance of an economy not just one month performance

'Trade deficit' for Jan-14 (single month) is -1.4 billion, 'Tardae deficit' for the month of Jan-13 (single month) was -1.3 billion.

overall Trade deficit for the period of Jul13 till Jan14 is $ -9.796 Billion, so don't post ridiculous articles.

An another independent analysis from a non govt official..

The rise of the rupee: A politically potent
economical stupidity
By Asif H Sheikh Published: March 30, 2014

Would the rise in the rupee make our debt
payments easier?
Last week I received a call from a friend in
Karachi.
“What is going on with the dollar?! Should I
buy dollars? Why is it falling like this?”
My answer was simple.
“The dollar isn’t falling; it’s the rupee that
is rising.”
What’s the difference?
Difference is its implication.
Hailing from a regime that had made promises of
ending load shedding within 90 days of coming to
power, the fact that Finance Minister Ishaq Dar
made good on his December 2013 promise to
bring the dollar down to Rs98 deserves an
applause.
While those who consider the currency exchange
rate as something of a competitive sport where
appreciation of the rupee is something to
celebrate, then fantastic; Ishaq Dar should
continue doing whatever he has done. But those
of us who can appreciate the fact that fluctuation
in foreign exchange markets have economic
implications, a deeper analysis is needed.
To understand this better, let’s look at how the
rupee was made to rise in its relative value.
During his speech, the minister called on those
who have dollars in possession to quickly cash in
because he warned of losses when the rupee
would rise. This led to the speculative selling of
the dollar. The government further aided this
measure by bombarding the markets with the $
1.5 billion received as a ‘gift’ from Saudi Arabia.
The simple principle of supply-demand prevailed
and the dollar dropped.
This was further abetted by the fact that major
debt payments for March 2014 had already been
made. Speculations of the US releasing Coalition
Support Funds and the release of funds from the
Asian Development Bank as well as the World
Bank caused the rupee to rally further in the
market.
Now you may ask, what’s the problem?
Wouldn’t the rise in the rupee make our debt
payments easier?
Wouldn’t it even make our fuel cheaper?
The problem is that the way that the rupee was
artificially made to appreciate is not sustainable.

Gifts, known in economics as unilateral transfers,
are windfall profits as they are not a continuous
stream and therefore their impacts are likely to be
a one-off event.
If the government had actually
not allowed the funds to come into the Pakistani
foreign exchange market and instead used it to
buy foreign bonds, they could have been a steady
income earning source as well as security for the
treasury.
The drawback of what the government did is that
without further funds coming in, if they push up
the rupee, speculators and traders will do what
they do best and start betting against the rupee
and cause it to depreciate in a relatively short
span of time.
Black markets have already started doing this.
Just a few days ago, some currency exchanges in
Karachi and Lahore were demanding Rs104 per
dollar.
The reason for this is that rise of the rupee was
indeed artificial for political gains. None of the
economic indicators needed to organically
appreciate a currency have changed in Pakistan.

In fact, the rapid fluctuations in the currency are
detrimental to inviting foreign investments in the
country. It’s a sign of instability.

Yes the depreciation of dollar would mean the
immediate lowering of our import bill, which
would mean cheaper petrol at the pumps. But
Keynesian economics teaches us that in the
short-term, prices are ‘sticky’, meaning that for
an event such as a sudden rise in rupees value to
have an impact on prices it has to be a
maintained over a long run. On the contrary,
artificially depreciated rupee makes Pakistan’s
immediate imports more expensive giving rise to
domestic inflation.

The economic issues being faced in Pakistan are
multifaceted and there is a dire need for the
government to shore up the fundamentals.

Policies that boost exports and encourage foreign
direct investment are the ones that will create the
jobs so badly needed. Short term measures like
intervening in the foreign exchange market and
youth loan schemes may look good on the
headlines but they do little to better the lives of
the masses.
For some inexplicable reason the mantra for
‘ trade not aid’ seems to be reserved for dealings
with the US and EU while the government is
perfectly content with charitable gifts from the
Saudi’s.

Another article without any link ..... ??
 
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My dear its not the communication gap, its the stubbornness of one participant of the discussion to make other believe whatever wrong information he is posting and to make other agree whatever stance he adopt with every single post .......

I have posted 'official figures' but you want me believe news articles written by some Tom, Dick or Harry, who could not even differentiate b/w trade deficit, Current account deficit or Balance of Payment. You are repeatedly posting $ 2.1 billion as trade deficit for January-14, which is in fact is BOP deficit for the period of July -13 till Jan-14.

My dear in economic analysis experts compare period wise performance of an economy not just one month performance

'Trade deficit' for Jan-14 (single month) is -1.4 billion, 'Tardae deficit' for the month of Jan-13 (single month) was -1.3 billion.

overall Trade deficit for the period of Jul13 till Jan14 is $ -9.796 Billion, so don't post ridiculous articles.



Another article without any link ..... ??

I'm 100 percentage sure about my datas.. I counter checked in following site..

Brother if you are sincerely discussing without ego.. Please visit

Monthly Summary on Foreign Trade Statistics | Pakistan Bureau of Statistics

There are pdf files trade balance for each month.. Check it and replay.. This is the site of Pakistan Bureau of Statitics govt of Pakistan.. Which is the authoritative body for this..
 
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My dear in economic analysis experts compare period wise performance of an economy not just one month performance

'Trade deficit' for Jan-14 (single month) is -1.4 billion, 'Tardae deficit' for the month of Jan-13 (single month) was -1.3 billion.

overall Trade deficit for the period of Jul13 till Jan14 is $ -9.796 Billion, so don't post ridiculous articles.



Another article without any link ..... ??

Dear.. I know comparing one months datas are not adequate.. But it will give a picture of your economy.. High trade deficit means high imports good sign for a developing country.. The raw materials including oil is necessary for development.. As trade deficit increases inflation also increases.. Slowly your local currency depreciates.. This eventually improve your production and exports.. As your export base increases your trade deficit will decline.. Ultimately your currency becom stronger.. This is slow and steady process.. Will take decades if all go right..
But here this month data shows your economy is weak and yes developing.. There is no chance of dollar depreciation.. This is only because of some aids.. Ultimately worse for your country..
 
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My dear its not the communication gap, its the stubbornness of one participant of the discussion to make other believe whatever wrong information he is posting and to make other agree whatever stance he adopt with every single post .......

I have posted 'official figures' but you want me believe news articles written by some Tom, Dick or Harry, who could not even differentiate b/w trade deficit, Current account deficit or Balance of Payment. You are repeatedly posting $ 2.1 billion as trade deficit for January-14, which is in fact is BOP deficit for the period of July -13 till Jan-14.

Another article without any link ..... ??
as you will not accept tom, dick and harry.. Y u want a link for above article.. Bro, The article is simple basic facts without any figures or numbers.. Which statement you have objection??
 
Brother if you are sincerely discussing without ego.. Please visit
Monthly Summary on Foreign Trade Statistics | Pakistan Bureau of Statistics
There are pdf files trade balance for each month.. Check it and replay.. This is the site of Pakistan Bureau of Statitics govt of Pakistan.. Which is the authoritative body for this..

Oh bhai before to post and debate plz learn the how read the data & which source is to be selected for DATA gathering.

Beru of Statistic has mentioned these DATA is Provisional with following wordings
* Provisional figures based on figures provided by the Director (R&S) FBR, Islamabad.

DATA available at SBP site is revised .... go and check both if you have any further confusion you can find the detail of every single commodity or services exported or imported at SBP website ...... for every single month & can tally the figure with overall figures.

NOW CUT THIS NONSENCES DEBATE ........
 
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