Rohingya repatriation: UN supervision needed

[Aung Zaya]

BD has 3.5X GDP of Myanmar and will impose a final settlement with respect to Rohingya.
Myanmar will just have to accept BD's decision as it has no power to resist.

lol so why do we need to discuss about repatriation ? if BD can , do it. according to previous meeting result , BD had to accept ARSA as terrorists what Myanmar want. on the other hand , Myanmar rejected what BD imposed.

 

[Banglar Bir]

UN chief meets Myanmar’s Suu Kyi on Rohingya crisis
AFP
Published at 08:18 AM November 14, 2017

Rohingya refugees sit on a makeshift boat as they wait for permission from Border Guard Bangladesh to continue after crossing the Bangladesh-Myanmar border, at Shah Porir Dwip in Teknaf, Cox's Bazar on November 9, 2017 Reuters
More than 600,000 Rohingya have fled to neighbouring Bangladesh in two and a half months
UN chief Antonio Guterres urged Myanmar leader Aung San Suu Kyi to allow Rohingya refugees in Bangladesh to return, when they met Tuesday at a summit in the Philippines, his office said.

The meeting added to global pressure on Suu Kyi to take action to end the crisis for the Muslim minority, with US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson due Tuesday also to hold talks with her in Manila then travel to Myanmar.

“The Secretary-General highlighted that strengthened efforts to ensure humanitarian access, safe, dignified, voluntary and sustained returns, as well as true reconciliation between communities, would be essential,” a UN statement said, summarising comments to Suu Kyi.

More than 600,000 Rohingya have fled to neighbouring Bangladesh in two and a half months.

The crisis erupted after Rohingya rebels attacked police posts in Myanmar’s Rakhine state, triggering a military crackdown that saw hundreds of villages reduced to ashes and sparked a massive exodus.
Authorities have blocked independent access to northern Rakhine.

But journalists and UN officials have collected reams of testimony from Rohingya refugees in Bangladesh describing soldiers and Buddhist mobs committing murder, rape and mass arson.

Following its first official investigation into the crisis, the army published a report this week in which it cleared itself of any abuses.

Nobel laureate Suu Kyi, a former democracy activist, has been lambasted by rights groups for failing to speak up for the Rohingya or condemn festering anti-Muslim sentiment in the country.

But she lacks control over the powerful military, which ruled the country for decades until her party came to power following 2015 elections.

The United States has been careful not to place blame on her and has focused instead on the army’s role in the conflict.

Guterres and Suu Kyi met in the early hours of Tuesday morning, according to his office.

In a summit on Monday night with leaders of the 10-member Association of Southeast Asian Nations, of which Myanmar is a member, Guterres also voiced concern about the Rohingya.

He said the displacement of hundreds of thousands of Rohingya was a “worrying escalation in a protracted tragedy,” according to the UN statement.

He described the situation as a potential source of instability in the region, as well as radicalisation.
http://www.dhakatribune.com/world/2017/11/14/un-chief-meets-myanmars-suu-kyi-rohingya-crisis/

 

[Banglar Bir]

Suu Kyi: Rohingyas will be taken back in 3 weeks of agreement with Bangladesh
Tribune Desk
Published at 12:16 PM November 14, 2017
Last updated at 01:34 PM November 14, 2017

Myanmar's Foreign Minister Aung San Suu Kyi smiles after a meeting with Norway's Foreign Minister Borge Brende (not in picture) at Myanmar's Foreign Ministry in Naypyitaw, Myanmar July 6, 2017
Reuters
Over 607,000 Rohingya have fled violence and persecution Myanmar’s Rakhine state and sought refuge in Bangladesh
A Philippine Presidential spokesman said the leader of Myanmar has promised to facilitate the safe repatriation of Rohingya and they would be taken back into the country after “three weeks following Myanmar’s agreement with Bangladesh on the matter.”

Manila Bulletin reports that Aung San Suu Kyi made the promise on Monday after “concern” was raised for the wellbeing of the Rohingya at the 31st Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) plenary summit led by President Duterte.

Commenting on the crisis, Philippine spokesman Harry Roque Jr told local reporters that Myanmar responded by saying that Kofi Annan’s report is being addressed.

He added: “Humanitarian assistance is welcomed; and the [sic] repatriation of IDPs [internally displaced persons] will be made [sic] within three weeks after MoU (memorandum of understanding) signing with Bangladesh.”

So far, over 607,000 Rohingya have fled violence and persecution Myanmar’s Rakhine state and sought refuge in Bangladesh.
http://www.dhakatribune.com/world/2...etin-suu-kyi-facilitate-safe-return-rohingya/

 

[Banglar Bir]

12:00 AM, November 17, 2017 / LAST MODIFIED: 05:49 AM, November 17, 2017
Take Rohingyas back, give them citizenship
UN committee asks Myanmar in a resolution backed by 135 states, opposed by 10 including China, Russia; calls for end to military ops, human rights abuse

A United Nations General Assembly committee on Thursday, November 16, 2017, calls on Myanmar to end military operations that have "led to the systematic violation and abuse of human rights" of Rohingya Muslims in the country's Rakhine state. Photo: REUTERS/ Navesh Chitrakar
Afp, New York
UN member-states yesterday urged Myanmar authorities to end a military campaign against the Rohingya in a resolution adopted despite opposition from China, Russia and some regional neighbours.
The General Assembly's human rights committee overwhelmingly endorsed the measure presented by Muslim countries by a vote of 135 to 10, with 26 countries abstaining.

UN member-states said they were "highly alarmed" by the violence and "further alarmed by the disproportionate use of force by the Myanmar forces" against the Rohingya.

The resolution drafted by the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) called on the government to allow access for aid workers, ensure the return of all refugees and grant full citizenship rights to the Rohingyas.

It requested UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres to appoint a special envoy to Myanmar.

Aside from Russia and China, Cambodia, the Philippines, Laos and Vietnam voted against the measure as did Syria, Zimbabwe and Belarus, along with Myanmar.

The non-binding measure now goes to the full assembly for debate next month.

More than 600,000 Muslim Rohingya have fled the mainly Buddhist country since the military operation was launched in Rakhine in late August.

Myanmar authorities insist the campaign was aimed at rooting out Rohingya militants who attacked police posts on August 25 but the UN has said the violence amounted to ethnic cleansing.

Addressing the committee, Saudi Ambassador Abdallah al-Mouallimi said the resolution backed a solution that recognises the "legitimate rights of Muslim citizens" in Myanmar.

Myanmar's Ambassador Hau Do Suan said his government was "making positive efforts to ease the situation" in Rakhine state, which he said was now "stable".

Earlier this month, the UN Security Council agreed on a statement calling on Myanmar to "ensure no further excessive use of military force in Rakhine state".

Britain and France had initially proposed that the council adopted a formal resolution on Myanmar but China opposed such a move.

Human Rights Watch said the vote sent "a strong message to Myanmar that the world will not stand by while its military engages in ethnic cleansing against the Rohingya".
http://www.thedailystar.net/frontpa...-rohingyas-back-give-them-citizenship-1492609

 

[Banglar Bir]

UNGA calls for end to Myanmar military operations
SAM Staff, November 17, 2017

Aerial view of a burned Rohingya village near Maungdaw, north of Rakhine state, Myanmar September 27, 2017. Photo: Reuters
A United Nations General Assembly committee on Thursday (Nov 16) called on Myanmar to end military operations that have “led to the systematic violation and abuse of human rights” of Rohingya Muslims in the country’s Rakhine state, reports Reuters.
The move revived a U.N. resolution that was dropped last year due to the country’s progress on human rights.

The General Assembly’s Third Committee, which focuses on human rights, voted 135 in favor, 10 against with 26 abstentions on the draft text that also asks U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres to appoint a special envoy on Myanmar.

For 15 years the Third Committee annually adopted a resolution condemning Myanmar’s human rights record, but last year the European Union did not put forward a draft text, citing progress under the leadership of Aung San Suu Kyi.

However, in the past three months more than 600,000 Rohingya Muslims have fled to Bangladesh after the Myanmar military began an operation against Rohingya militants, who attacked 30 security posts and an army base in Rakhine state on Aug. 25.

This prompted the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation to put forward a new draft U.N. resolution, which will now be formally adopted by the 193-member General Assembly next month. The resolution deepens international pressure, but has no legal consequences.

Myanmar’s army released a report on Monday denying all allegations of rapes and killings by security forces, days after replacing the general in charge of the military operation in Rakhine state.

Top U.N. officials have denounced the violence as a classic example of ethnic cleansing. The Myanmar government has denied allegations of ethnic cleansing.

Myanmar is refusing entry to a U.N. panel that was tasked with investigating allegations of abuses after a smaller military counteroffensive launched in October 2016.

The draft resolution approved by the Third Committee on Thursday urges Myanmar to grant access. It also calls for full and unhindered humanitarian aid access and for Myanmar to grant full citizenship rights to Rohingya.

They have been denied citizenship in Myanmar, where many Buddhists regard them as illegal immigrants from Bangladesh.

The 15-member U.N. Security Council last week urged the Myanmar government to “ensure no further excessive use of military force in Rakhine state.” It asked Guterres to report back in 30 days.

Human Rights Watch accused Myanmar security forces on Thursday of committing widespread rape against women and girls, echoing an allegation by Pramila Patten, the U.N. special envoy on sexual violence in conflict, earlier this week. Patten said sexual violence was “being commanded, orchestrated and perpetrated by the Armed Forces of Myanmar.”
SOURCE REUTERS.
https://southasianmonitor.com/2017/11/17/unga-calls-end-myanmar-military-operations/

 

[BDforever]

UNGA calls for end to Myanmar military operations
SAM Staff, November 17, 2017

Aerial view of a burned Rohingya village near Maungdaw, north of Rakhine state, Myanmar September 27, 2017. Photo: Reuters
A United Nations General Assembly committee on Thursday (Nov 16) called on Myanmar to end military operations that have “led to the systematic violation and abuse of human rights” of Rohingya Muslims in the country’s Rakhine state, reports Reuters.
The move revived a U.N. resolution that was dropped last year due to the country’s progress on human rights.

The General Assembly’s Third Committee, which focuses on human rights, voted 135 in favor, 10 against with 26 abstentions on the draft text that also asks U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres to appoint a special envoy on Myanmar.

For 15 years the Third Committee annually adopted a resolution condemning Myanmar’s human rights record, but last year the European Union did not put forward a draft text, citing progress under the leadership of Aung San Suu Kyi.

However, in the past three months more than 600,000 Rohingya Muslims have fled to Bangladesh after the Myanmar military began an operation against Rohingya militants, who attacked 30 security posts and an army base in Rakhine state on Aug. 25.

This prompted the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation to put forward a new draft U.N. resolution, which will now be formally adopted by the 193-member General Assembly next month. The resolution deepens international pressure, but has no legal consequences.

Myanmar’s army released a report on Monday denying all allegations of rapes and killings by security forces, days after replacing the general in charge of the military operation in Rakhine state.

Top U.N. officials have denounced the violence as a classic example of ethnic cleansing. The Myanmar government has denied allegations of ethnic cleansing.

Myanmar is refusing entry to a U.N. panel that was tasked with investigating allegations of abuses after a smaller military counteroffensive launched in October 2016.

The draft resolution approved by the Third Committee on Thursday urges Myanmar to grant access. It also calls for full and unhindered humanitarian aid access and for Myanmar to grant full citizenship rights to Rohingya.

They have been denied citizenship in Myanmar, where many Buddhists regard them as illegal immigrants from Bangladesh.

The 15-member U.N. Security Council last week urged the Myanmar government to “ensure no further excessive use of military force in Rakhine state.” It asked Guterres to report back in 30 days.

Human Rights Watch accused Myanmar security forces on Thursday of committing widespread rape against women and girls, echoing an allegation by Pramila Patten, the U.N. special envoy on sexual violence in conflict, earlier this week. Patten said sexual violence was “being commanded, orchestrated and perpetrated by the Armed Forces of Myanmar.”
SOURCE REUTERS.
https://southasianmonitor.com/2017/11/17/unga-calls-end-myanmar-military-operations/

The General Assembly's human rights committee overwhelmingly endorsed the measure presented by Muslim countries by a vote of 135 to 10, with 26 countries abstaining.
Aside from Russia and China, Cambodia, the Philippines, Laos and Vietnam voted against the measure as did Syria, Zimbabwe and Belarus, along with Myanmar.
Read more at http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...d-to-myanmar-attacks-against-rohingya-9414112

 

[Nilgiri]

Aside from Russia and China, Cambodia, the Philippines, Laos and Vietnam voted against the measure as did Syria, Zimbabwe and Belarus, along with Myanmar.

Good job to those countries. Love this part too:

"The non-binding measure " @Aung Zaya

Also info on those that abstained:

http://www.thecitizen.in/index.php/...bstains-From-Voting-on-UN-Rohingya-Resolution

Among the 26 countries which abstained along with India, were Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bhutan and Japan.

@Gibbs

 

[BDforever]

Good job to those countries. Love this part too:

"The non-binding measure " @Aung Zaya

Also info on those that abstained:

http://www.thecitizen.in/index.php/...bstains-From-Voting-on-UN-Rohingya-Resolution

Among the 26 countries which abstained along with India, were Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bhutan and Japan.

@Gibbs

yet 135 countries agreed with us

 

[Nilgiri]

yet 135 countries agreed with us

On a non-binding measure? Who cares. Have you seen which countries get elected to human rights councils in UN? UN has zero credibility on pretty much anything.

It's just good to see what the immediate region opinions are (given they hold sway in ASEAN from the east, China from the North and India from the West) and very nice to see Japan abstaining with India.

Anything that has modicum of effect on the ground (say UNSC) gets vetoed by your best buddy China and Russia too. Enjoy that.

Till then you can have all the emotional feelz votes in the UNGA you want, your behind belongs to MM in reality on the issue...and the countries that matter in region (that can actually do something on ground) approve of that status quo. It is like you cheering that the rest of ppl in a prison complex "sympathise" with you from afar while the immediate gang around you enjoy their in and out each and every night, whenever they want....a little solace while it pains in the middle of the night while you hug your pillow tight? It's ok, we will throw a few pennies at you here and there for entertaining your Burmese patron....be content little one.

US Rex Tillerson even said only individuals of MM military can be potentially sanctioned lol (after going there to meet, and avoiding BD all together even after you begged for him to come), not even the whole institution as a whole. Wow what a climbdown after all that drama you lot were clinging to in US policy hearings regarding military support for "invasion" blah blah. Oh and he requested them to "investigate the matter" as well...hahahaha. No one cares about you weaklings, you showed what backbone you had by your very birth process in 1971. Tremendously humiliating (every other country would just want to move on and use same attitude with resolving pending issues with neighbours) yet you want sympathy feels on each and every thing on your terms....yeah...no. Karma is good.

 

[BDforever]

On a non-binding measure? Who cares. Have you seen which countries get elected to human rights councils in UN? UN has zero credibility on pretty much anything.

It's just good to see what the immediate region opinions are (given they hold sway in ASEAN from the east, China from the North and India from the West) and very nice to see Japan abstaining with India.

Anything that has modicum of effect on the ground (say UNSC) gets vetoed by your best buddy China and Russia too. Enjoy that.

Till then you can have all the emotional feelz votes in the UNGA you want, your behind belongs to MM in reality on the issue...and the countries that matter in region (that can actually do something on ground) approve of that status quo. It is like you cheering that the rest of ppl in a prison complex "sympathise" with you from afar while the immediate gang around you enjoy their in and out each and every night, whenever they want....a little solace while it pains in the middle of the night while you hug your pillow tight? It's ok, we will throw a few pennies at you here and there for entertaining your Burmese patron....be content little one.

US Rex Tillerson even said only individuals of MM military can be potentially sanctioned lol (after going there to meet, and avoiding BD all together even after you begged for him to come), not even the whole institution as a whole. Wow what a climbdown after all that drama you lot were clinging to in US policy hearings regarding military support for "invasion" blah blah. Oh and he requested them to "investigate the matter" as well...hahahaha. No one cares about you weaklings, you showed what backbone you had by your very birth process in 1971. Tremendously humiliating (every other country would just want to move on and use same attitude with resolving pending issues with neighbours) yet you want sympathy feels on each and every thing on your terms....yeah...no. Karma is good.

such a long post, i am amused

 

[Nilgiri]

such a long post, i am amused

You have 600,000 new problems and theres a big b**ch of one "running" your country too hahahaha....sorry not even silver lining for you lot.

Just hold tight and enjoy the ride.....we sure are

 

[BDforever]

You have 600,000 new problems and theres a big b**ch of one "running" your country too hahahaha....sorry not even silver lining for you lot.

Just hold tight and enjoy the ride.....we sure are

we have hope, we will migrate to India

 

[Nilgiri]

we have hope, we will migrate to India

Nah BSF gets in the way when you try that ...mush mush !!!....stick to making those underwears now instead of typing here... so you can spend money on coastal defence from mother nature and try to survive long term , now with 600,000 extra ppl multiplying like bunny wabbits.

 

[BDforever]

Nah BSF gets in the way when you try that ...mush mush !!!....stick to making those underwears now instead of typing here... so you can spend money on coastal defence from mother nature and try to survive long term , now with 600,000 extra ppl multiplying like bunny wabbits.

nah, we know how to sneak into India, we will come and live in India illegally as we are doing currently

 

[Nilgiri]

nah, we know how to sneak into India, we will come and live in India illegally as we are doing currently

We are wising up to all of that now As with everything in India, its slow...but it gets there .

Too bad, if you weren't like this even when you didn't need to be (and focus on improving your lot to be better quality people)....we could be much nicer to you regarding it when you actually desperately need it in future.

BD people do not think long term at all for some reason (hence why 1971 happened after just 20 or so years). Chanakya Dada didnt pay much attention assuming certain things after helping you on those short term feelz you had, but you prove those to be wrong, so here we are...MM Rohingya is just a small intro chapter of much more coming your way.