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The first industry we will see automated is anything driving related i.e. taxi drivers, haulage firms, chauffeurs, couriers, driverless technology is now reaching exceptional levels. Pretty much soon driving full stop will be a thing of the past.
 
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Thank you for the detailed response.
I have a question. You say that only cheap labor jobs will survive the robotic revolution. What about jobs in
web developing, software developing etc. Will they also be replaced by robots or will they survive for a much longer time?

Ermm no, I didn't say that only cheap labor will survive. In fact, it's very vulnerable since it can easily be automated. I said it will probably survive in the next 10 years in its present form.

I don't see web/software developments getting replaced by robots in the near future. However IT developments are very rapid and you need to keep learning and upgrading to keep up with the pace. What you learn about IT in the university today may be irrelevant in 5 years time because new software keeps coming up.

The first industry we will see automated is anything driving related i.e. taxi drivers, haulage firms, chauffeurs, couriers, driverless technology is now reaching exceptional levels. Pretty much soon driving full stop will be a thing of the past.

I just watched the news just now that Singapore will start rolling out driverless taxi in 2018.

SINGAPORE — Commuters here could be greeted by driverless vehicles that they can book using a smartphone app in the next few years, putting Singapore among the first on the world map.

Trials for such on-demand services by autonomous vehicles (AVs) will start in the one-north testbed this year, following partnership agreements the Land Transport Authority (LTA) signed with Delphi Automotive Systems and nuTonomy on Monday (Aug 1).

“If these trials prove successful, the projects would be developed into full-scale mobility solutions for towns in Singapore ... commuters will be able to summon autonomous shuttles or pods using their smartphones, and the shuttles or pods will bring them in air-conditioned comfort from point to point, for example, from their doorsteps to the train stations,” said the LTA in a press release.

In August 2014, when the Government announced its venture into AV technology, it had unveiled a seemingly fantastical vision of a completely car-free town and residents taking “personalised MRTs” in the form of driverless pods running underground from under their block to public transport nodes.

While there have been trials to develop prototypes or test their viability, the latest agreements pave the way to realise the vision of driverless vehicles providing first-and-last mile and intra-town services.

Both companies were bullish about when commuters could have a taste of their services.

Singapore-based startup nuTonomy’s co-founder Emilio Frazzoli said the first “limited commercial deployment” will begin by 2018, where it expects to have a fleet size of 75. “It’ll not be Singapore-wide, it’ll be at certain locations,” he said, adding that it targets island-wide deployment by 2020.

The company has been conducting trials at one-north with its Mitsubishi i-MiEV and touts its technology, which includes software for AV navigation, smartphone-based ride hailing, fleet-routing, and remote control of a vehicle.

Delphi, on the other hand, expects their vehicles to be commercially-viable by 2019, with a fleet of 40 to 50 vehicles in Singapore within one year.

Mr Glen de Vos, the UK firm’s vice-president, said: “The next three years is going to be about making sure the technology can work, the whole eco-system is functional. The next phase is moving towards commercialisation.

Delphi has been testing its self-driving technology in the United States, where its Audi SQ5 prototype drove from San Francisco to New York almost fully autonomously last year. LTA chief executive Chew Men Leong, however, was more cautious about the timeframe.

Speaking to reporters after the signing ceremony, Mr Chew said: “Right now, I think we are at the very beginning stage, so I think it’ll still be quite a few years. Do allow us to work with our partners to bring these technologies to test for deployment. I think you will have to allow it to evolve.”

These two trials were culled from eight proposals the authorities received from a Request for Information exercise for mobility-on-demand driverless technologies in June last year.

Another three trials were announced last October, looking into driverless vehicles ferrying visitors around Gardens by the Bay and Sentosa Island, and an autonomous truck platooning system. The Request for Proposal for the latter closed on Monday.

Safety concerns over driverless vehicles came to the fore again in May, after a Tesla Model S crashed in Autopilot mode in Florida and its driver died. It was the first fatality involving self-driving vehicles, and Tesla has since traced the fault to a technical failure in the automatic braking system.

In an interview with Forbes on Monday, Mr De Vos said its AV technology, unlike Tesla’s, features multi-modal sensing with lidar, cameras, short- and long-range radar, inertia sensors, and communications systems that can function in extreme weather conditions. These tell the AV where other vehicles, cyclists and pedestrians are in relation to it.

Still, National University of Singapore transport researcher Lee Der-Horng said the timelines set by the companies would depend on how technology evolves.

UniSIM senior lecturer Park Byung Joon noted: “As of today, no company is ready to put a fully autonomous taxi service on the streets ... Right now, the big concern is how people and machines interact ... the system isn’t perfect yet.”

The current legal framework is also lacking, pointed out Dr Lee. “Whose responsibility is it when there are accidents or violations? Without addressing these issues properly, it can’t take off, and 2019 is only 2.5 years away. In terms of legislation, are we able to meet the timeline?”

Meanwhile, the LTA, JTC and Nanyang Technological University launched a new centre and testbed at Cleantech Park to develop certification processes for driverless vehicles before they are allowed to be integrated with existing road traffic.

Mr Chew added: “With the establishment of (the centre), Singapore has the potential to take the lead in the setting of regulatory stands to test and certify self-driving vehicles in an urban setting.”

He also said that the centre will draw local and international companies to be certified for their driverless vehicles, and then trial and deploy them.

http://www.todayonline.com/singapore/delphi-begin-testing-demand-robot-taxis-singapore
 
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Ermm no, I didn't say that only cheap labor will survive. In fact, it's very vulnerable since it can easily be automated. I said it will probably survive in the next 10 years in its present form.

I don't see web/software developments getting replaced by robots in the near future. However IT developments are very rapid and you need to keep learning and upgrading to keep up with the pace. What you learn about IT in the university today may be irrelevant in 5 years time because new software keeps coming up.



I just watched the news just now that Singapore will start rolling out driverless taxi in 2018.



http://www.todayonline.com/singapore/delphi-begin-testing-demand-robot-taxis-singapore

Not necessary everything you study now may become irrelevant in 5 years, that's why they have basic computer science course start earlier in secondary and high school in many countries. But probably for spill over effect or trickle down it will take decades and govt need to adjust for social change too, high unemployment will create unrest. (Dutch Disease)


Universal basic income: http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2016/06/economist-explains-4
 
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Not necessary everything you study now may become irrelevant in 5 years, that's why they have basic computer science course start earlier in secondary and high school in many countries. But probably for spill over effect or trickle down it will take decades and govt need to adjust for social change too, high unemployment will create unrest. (Dutch Disease)


Universal basic income: http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2016/06/economist-explains-4

Obviously not everything but referring to the latest way of doing stuff.

How's that Dutch Disease?

UBI is simply not viable.
 
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Obviously not everything but referring to the latest way of doing stuff.

How's that Dutch Disease?

UBI is simply not viable.
I wonder that, if there are no jobs, then who will buy the products made by the factories. It is self-contradictory right?
If people don't have money, and since according to you UBI is not viable, then how will these automated businesses make revenue? It seems like a path to self-destruction.
 
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I wonder that, if there are no jobs, then who will buy the products made by the factories. It is self-contradictory right?
If people don't have money, and since according to you UBI is not viable, then how will these automated businesses make revenue? It seems like a path to self-destruction.

Then what's the purpose of population if they just simply collect money from the govern without doing anything? They will just be a burden to the economy. I don't see automation completely replacing all human work in the next 100 years.
 
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Your compatriots with MBA get 10000 rupees per month....Come here to be a toilet cleaner, can get several times of that salary. And it's not some low caste jobs in East Asia. You are also advised to quit your chemistry engineering course....No future

An Indian MBA monthly salary cannot even pay my electricity bill

:lol:
 
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Our economy is already over 70% based on service and no, foreigners occupy only a small part of it. There is not much room for growth in that sector. Crtsinly not high paying jobs. Most people working in the service sectors are not well paid to consume our high end products.

that's what I keep preaching to our Chinese members. Most service jobs pay shit
 
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