Rise of Communist Party in Pakistan and Pak Army

[renhai]

Depends on how you define it, sure China is not orthodox communism.

Capital power over politics - that is election democracy/Laissez-faire capitalism.

Politic power over capital - that is socialism/communism.

Communism statehood is new, like a rookie facing challenges, it adapts and evolves (that is China).

Remember Democracy had a bad reputation in classic west civilization, it raises with Anglo hegemony under modern mass media and prevalence of education.

Communism had a bad reputation, but it is not inconceivable its status may raise again with China, while election democracy /Laissez-faire capitalism fails.

Since 2000 years ago, Qin Shihuang first unified China. He designated a series of political systems for China. Many have been continued until now.

Follow the Qin system. China gave birth to the Great Han, Great Sui, Great Tang, and Great Ming. As Mao Zedong said, "All dynasties followed the Qin Dynasty system. He never concealed his admiration for Qin Shihuang.

including now. What we see more is the Qin system. But………… it's not communism. Although this system is called "communism".

We are not sure if communism can help Pakistan...… Compare with communism. maybe Pakistan needs a "Qin Shi Huang" even more.

 

[jamahir]

Oh yea I remember some report asking him to step down and he said from what

Exactly, ha ha.

I heard that communism demands "absolute equality". Really? How can this help Pakistan?

How can equality not help Pakistan and any other place ?

For example, equality right to life and comforts for females just like it is for males. And this equality extended to all citizens by removing former social, economic and political disparities and classes. No one able to order by flight from another city : five plates of mutton biryani with one plate reserved for dog, while in their city there are thousands of people not able arrange either two plates of food in a span of five days and some dying of hunger in the time.

In China there are billionaires who jet by on the shores in their luxury boats while in their sight are slums where there are people dying of illness not because the hospitals don't have cure but because the ill don't have money to pay to the extortionary hospital. And in three months the billionaires will have been bored of their luxury boats and changed them. The poor in the slum continue to die.

What madness is this ???

Communism is thus imperative. Simplifying of humanity, bringing harmony and removing of artificial miseries and artificial famines.

@Joe Shearer @Imran Khan @Jf Thunder @Drizzt @Goenitz @Zibago @Mentee @fitpOsitive

@DESERT FIGHTER, you too should watch commie films.

 

[renhai]

Exactly, ha ha.



How can equality not help Pakistan and any other place ?

For example, equality right to life and comforts for females just like it is for males. And this equality extended to all citizens by removing former social, economic and political disparities and classes. No one able to order by flight from another city : five plates of mutton biryani with one plate reserved for dog, while in their city there are thousands of people not able arrange either two plates of food in a span of five days and some dying of hunger in the time.

In China there are billionaires who jet by on the shores in their luxury boats while in their sight are slums where there are people dying of illness not because the hospitals don't have cure but because the ill don't have money to pay to the extortionary hospital. And in three months the billionaires will have been bored of their luxury boats and changed them. The poor in the slum continue to die.

What madness is this ???

Communism is thus imperative. Simplifying of humanity, bringing harmony and removing of artificial miseries and artificial famines.

@Joe Shearer @Imran Khan @Jf Thunder @Drizzt @Goenitz @Zibago @Mentee @fitpOsitive

@DESERT FIGHTER, you too should watch commie films.

emmm.... I only know that communism is "absolute average". How it deals with the current Pakistan issue. I don't know.

 

[-=virus=-]

Exactly, ha ha.



How can equality not help Pakistan and any other place ?

For example, equality right to life and comforts for females just like it is for males. And this equality extended to all citizens by removing former social, economic and political disparities and classes. No one able to order by flight from another city : five plates of mutton biryani with one plate reserved for dog, while in their city there are thousands of people not able arrange either two plates of food in a span of five days and some dying of hunger in the time.

In China there are billionaires who jet by on the shores in their luxury boats while in their sight are slums where there are people dying of illness not because the hospitals don't have cure but because the ill don't have money to pay to the extortionary hospital. And in three months the billionaires will have been bored of their luxury boats and changed them. The poor in the slum continue to die.

What madness is this ???

Communism is thus imperative. Simplifying of humanity, bringing harmony and removing of artificial miseries and artificial famines.

@Joe Shearer @Imran Khan @Jf Thunder @Drizzt @Goenitz @Zibago @Mentee @fitpOsitive

@DESERT FIGHTER, you too should watch commie films.

chal be, pukkhay mar, bhikari

fugg off, commie

I'd do all I can to stop it if it starts infecting our brothers to the west.. hilsakhor ugly bengalion me faila do jitna failana hai.. Pnjab side ni chalna

 

[jamahir]

emmm.... I only know that communism is "absolute average". How it deals with the current Pakistan issue. I don't know.

The "current" Pakistan issue is 76 years old, since Pakistan's "independence". The governance of Pakistan has been mostly a game of pass-the-parcel between rural feudals, urban feudals, Capitalists, the theocrats, the career politicians, the apathetic middle class and the generals. That was in the 1940s and it is now in 2023.

Communism will simplify the society. Just like in former Libyan Jamahiriya the political parties will be abolished, as will be the theocrats, the feudals and the Capitalists. Every citizen will not only look after himself or herself but of wider society, to the fullest, with sincerity and no apathy. People will look at collective development instead of themselves or at most their family. Thus Pakistan will have harmony and will become productive. No hunger, no homelessness, no other socio-economic deaths ( honor killings, suicides, illnesses etc ), no disparity in power, no helpnessness, no dog attacks, no bachcha-baazi etc.

chal be, pukkhay mar, bhikari

Translated to "Get lost, go die of hunger, you beggar !"

How human of you.

fugg off, commie

I'd do all I can to stop it if it starts infecting our brothers to the west..

Super cringe. Are those "Brothers to the West" even calling you ?

hilsakhor ugly bengalion me faila do jitna failana hai.. Pnjab side ni chalna

Note about Virus miyaan to BD members. For your next time with him.

@AmiEktaKharapChele @UKBengali @EasyNow @BananaRepublicUK @bluesky @Destranator

 

[-=virus=-]

Translated to "Get lost, go die of hunger, you beggar !"

How human of you.

yes, but for whose benefit did you translate that ?

as human as it gets.

Super cringe. Are those "Brothers to the West" even calling you ?

I feel like their mother, undying love even.. not so much with those that came out of no 2

Pregnant Indian uses train toilet, baby slips out

A newborn baby girl survived an ignoble birth after slipping down the toilet bowl of a moving train onto the tracks when a pregnant woman unexpectedly gave birth while relieving herself on Tuesday.

www.reuters.com

 

[jamahir]

yes, but for whose benefit did you translate that ?

For non-desis. For desis too for impact.

as human as it gets.

So "Humanism" means cruelty ?

 

[prashantazazel]

while these two middle class girls had money to feed dogs

Just like you had money to eat at least two times yesterday. You could have saved that woman.
But no. Like every communist, you would prefer to leech on productive people, while adding no value yourself.

 

[beijingwalker]

China's system is Neo Confucianism, Chinese government just keeps the name Communism for the legitimacy to rule and govern.
I don't think communism can really work in real life in China and it's a foreign ideology, the foreign nature itself is a big turn-off to many Chinese people.

 

[Sliver]

2. China is not Communism but Capitalism. China is untrustworthy. In the 1980s it help NATO and Al Qaeda in Afghanistan and now China oppresses people just to build that artificial artifact called money.

this is what Pakistan did exactly?

 

[Jf Thunder]

Exactly, ha ha.



How can equality not help Pakistan and any other place ?

For example, equality right to life and comforts for females just like it is for males. And this equality extended to all citizens by removing former social, economic and political disparities and classes. No one able to order by flight from another city : five plates of mutton biryani with one plate reserved for dog, while in their city there are thousands of people not able arrange either two plates of food in a span of five days and some dying of hunger in the time.

In China there are billionaires who jet by on the shores in their luxury boats while in their sight are slums where there are people dying of illness not because the hospitals don't have cure but because the ill don't have money to pay to the extortionary hospital. And in three months the billionaires will have been bored of their luxury boats and changed them. The poor in the slum continue to die.

What madness is this ???

Communism is thus imperative. Simplifying of humanity, bringing harmony and removing of artificial miseries and artificial famines.

@Joe Shearer @Imran Khan @Jf Thunder @Drizzt @Goenitz @Zibago @Mentee @fitpOsitive

@DESERT FIGHTER, you too should watch commie films.

I doubt anyone will allow any communist party to operate in Pakistan, let alone form the government

 

[chinasun]

Socialist ideology will have sharp contradictions with the country's traditional culture and religious thought, and is not suitable for Islamic countries. China learned socialism from the Soviet Union. With the assistance of the Soviet Union, light industry and heavy chemical industry were quickly established. This is the benefit of a planned economy. However, there was a fierce ideological conflict with traditional Chinese culture, and the result was the ten-year Cultural Revolution. After 1980, China abandoned socialist ideology and tried to combine socialism with traditional culture in order to maintain national stability. Although the planned economy has the advantages of rapid and practical national industrialization, it lacks competition and is inefficient. In 1989, it began to transform into a market economy, while retaining part of the planned economy. I don't know what system is in China now, but it suits China itself.

China believes that each country needs to establish a system suitable for its own national economic development according to its own culture, religion, and economic development stage. It is often wrong to blindly copy other countries' systems.

 

[jamahir]

Just like you had money to eat at least two times yesterday. You could have saved that woman.
But no. Like every communist, you would prefer to leech on productive people, while adding no value yourself.

1. What are you saying here ? That we Indians should have known that Modi jee's government will forcibly impose a reverse migration on daily-wage urban workers and push them into trains without food and water for days until they died in their seat or in the toilet ?

2. Who are these "productive people" and how are Communists leeching on them ? Don't say "the middle class" because a lot of the Indian middle class are considered parasites in the world. Isn't that shameful ? These middle class people of India feed dogs and laugh at the hunger deaths of those poorer than them ?

this is what Pakistan did exactly?

Yes, a shameful time of Pakistan but a good percentage of Pakistanis consider Zia ul Haq as the dictator who imposed a wrong time on the country.

I doubt anyone will allow any communist party to operate in Pakistan, let alone form the government

If only Faiz Ahmed Faiz and his comrades had succeeded in 1951 in making Pakistan a Socialist society instead of the theocratic-feudalist-plutocratic society of now.

The ideology of social justice will develop sharp contradictions with the country's traditional culture and religious thought, which is not suitable for Islamic countries. China learned from the Soviet Union to implement a social justice system and implement a planned economy. With the assistance of the Soviet Union, light industry and heavy chemical industry were quickly established. This is the advantage. However, there was a fierce ideological conflict with traditional Chinese culture, and the result was the 10-year Civilization Revolution. After 1980, China abandoned the socialist ideology and tried to integrate social justice with traditional culture to maintain national stability. Although the planned economy has the advantages of rapid and practical national industrialization, it lacks competition and is less efficient. In 1989, it began to transform into a market economy, and also retained part of the planned economy. I don't know what system is in China now.

Mao will be rolling in his embalm case to know that the China he removed from mindless and uncaring Capitalism is now pushing Chinese into gambling in stock exchanges and once they lose their money the system pushes them into jumping into steel furnaces.

 

[Sliver]

pakistan becoming a socialist society - means the billionaires need to give up their money. will that happen?

 

[bluesky]

Communism will simplify the society. Just like in former Libyan Jamahiriya the political parties will be abolished, as will be the theocrats, the feudals and the Capitalists. Every citizen will not only look after himself or herself but of wider society, to the fullest, with sincerity and no apathy. People will look at collective development instead of themselves or at most their family. Thus Pakistan will have harmony and will become productive. No hunger, no homelessness, no other socio-economic deaths ( honor killings, suicides, illnesses etc ), no disparity in power, no helpnessness, no dog attacks, no bachcha-baazi etc.

Can you cite one Communist country with a successful record? China is ruled by a Communist Party. But, essentially, it is a full Capitalist society during and after Deng Shiao Ping.

On the other hand, Japan is a Capitalist country, but essentially it is a Communist country that has created ALMOST equality by taking taxes from the rich like you and spending that money on developing infrastructures where the poor like me can get jobs.

China is socialist in name, and Japan is capitalist in name. How about following Japanese example?