Rights activists suggest taking Tipaimukh issue to UN int’l court

[eastwatch]

I am from plains of Northern India. India recently built Tihri Dam on Ganga in Uttarakhand but I never heard Uttar Pradesh and Bihar complaining because they have widespread under-ground water and ponds and rains and we don't use river water even in summer season. Really it is funny to understand India is depriving Bangladesh of its water when Bangladesh is rich in water resources.

You have lots of silly politicians who think are always in search of issues to blame each other and divert the attention of common people.

There was a time when Bangladesh was rich with water. Now, thanks to indian dams, BD is a desert during lean period. India regularly builds dam across the border and stops water from flowing into our land. Tipai was not an issue to begin with, but an unilateral decision to build that dam has made it an international issue.

India does not say about the design CRITERION of this dam. We do not know if India will retain all the water during lean season and force us a transit in exchange of water. Many such issues must be talked and resolved before BD can nod to Tipai Dam Project. Instead, India keeps on tricking us with a false and empty promise that there will be no harm to BD.

We want India to come out with all the information including planning, design and construction drawings to make us understand what India will really do. There must be a water treaty before the 1st stone is placed in the dam. We have Teesta problem on hand, India has been making false promises but is not delivering anything. Tipai must not be allowed to go that way.

You guys now perhaps truly understand why we the Bangladeshi people dislike or hate India. India believes in tricky politics. It promises somethiong that it never delivers. There are hundreds of examples like teesta or Tipai.

 

[patna_ke_presley]

To be honest i never thought of this foreign hand thing, thanks for pointing out.Besides there are lots of BDeshi member here who talk of stuff like breaking up and annexing N.E by pushing illegal migrnats and stuff like that.In there dreams may be .. but as far as Tipaimukh is concerned i think it too late for any one to do anything to stop it..

Dude I am from Bihar, my farms in my village are near to Ganga River (within 1-1.5 km) but honestly tell you we are so rich in water resources that we don't need Ganga water for anything. We mostly use borewell to irrigate our fields and we have no canal in our village because its useless for us. We use Handpump, well or borewell to tap underground water for daily consumption.

As far I know Bangladesh is more rich in water resources than Bihar, they have more rainfall than our place. Their political parties just need issues to do politics. Bangladesh has one of the worst inter-political fights in the world. With my personal experience, it sounds funny to me that Bangladesh want share in water resources of Ganga, or Teesta or Barak river because they are too rich in water resources. Assam never protested against Tipaimukh Dam in Manipur but Bangladesh seems over-concerned about that because their political parties are always in need of an issue.

 

[zootinali]

Tipaimukh Dam/Cachar Plain Irrigation Project: A Complicated International Disaster
Scenario for Bangladesh

The scenario and consequences of a Tipaimukh Dam-break has not been thoroughly studied. NEEPCO has yet to complete a basic scientifically sound environment impact assessment even though it is geared up to start construction after having opened international bidding for Engineering, Procurement and Construction (EPC). Such a study has to be conducted by international as well as national dam-safety experts as the impacts of a dam-break will have both severe upstream and downstream effects.

TIPAIMUKH DAM a geotectonic blunder II

NEEPCO will never do any study because project is being constructed ny NHPC. Two different organistaion.NEEPCO does not have the oomph to handle such big project

 

[patna_ke_presley]

There was a time when Bangladesh was rich with water. Now, thanks to indian dams, BD is a desert during lean period. India regularly builds dam across the border and stops water from flowing into our land. Tipai was not an issue to begin with, but an unilateral decision to build that dam has made it an international issue.

India does not say about the design CRITERION of this dam. We do not know if India will retain all the water during lean season and force us a transit in exchange of water. Many such issues must be talked and resolved before BD can nod to Tipai Dam Project. Instead, India keeps on tricking us with a false and empty promise that there will be no harm to BD.

We want India to come out with all the information including planning, design and construction drawings to make us understand what India will really do. There must be a water treaty before the 1st stone is placed in the dam. We have Teesta problem on hand, India has been making false promises but is not delivering anything. Tipai must not be allowed to go that way.

You guys now perhaps truly understand why we the Bangladeshi people dislike or hate India. India believes in tricky politics. It promises somethiong that it never delivers. There are hundreds of examples like teesta or Tipai.

Stop bullshit. You have lot of under-ground water and rich rainfall every year, my native village is on the Bank of Ganga river and nobody use it for irrigation and daily use. Its funny that you are dying of thirst. Bangladesh has one of the worst inter-political fights in the world and your political parties always look to make India as a scapegoat.

 

[patna_ke_presley]

Well you see, bangladesh has a large population in a small area, so the groundwater taken by us is not enough. Furthermore there is arsenic poisoning in our groundwater. Even if we do not have groundwater poisoning, we cant take out too much water as it cause bangladesh's water table to fall and cause bd to sink.

You are true to say that bd has lot of water resources, but you must remember these resources comes flowing from india. If india stops this flow too much, it will mean trouble for us

Let me do a research about Arsenic story, then I will reply regarding that, but surely the way Bangladeshi politicians hype the issues than it is actually is. But the thing is, Ganga water is itself highly polluted, I am afraid that anybody in Bangladesh will be using it for domestic consumption.

 

[zootinali]

Dude I am from Bihar, my farms in my village are near to Ganga River (within 1-1.5 km) but honestly tell you we are so rich in water resources that we don't need Ganga water for anything. We mostly use borewell to irrigate our fields and we have no canal in our village because its useless for us. We use Handpump, well or borewell to tap underground water for daily consumption.

As far I know Bangladesh is more rich in water resources than Bihar, they have more rainfall than our place. Their political parties just need issues to do politics. Bangladesh has one of the worst inter-political fights in the world. With my personal experience, it sounds funny to me that Bangladesh want share in water resources of Ganga, or Teesta or Barak river because they are too rich in water resources. Assam never protested against Tipaimukh Dam in Manipur but Bangladesh seems over-concerned about that because their political parties are always in need of an issue.

No no ..Assam protest was about lower subansiri mega dam in Arunachal not tuipaimukh.Beside I don`t understand (i might be wrong) BD stand on this whole issue because we are building this dam for power generation not to divert water,beside it will help BD to control flood in their own country.Seismic effect may seem a valid reason, but too far fetched to be true with with good engineering capabilities that we have ... furthermore i read in a website that it was BD infact which requested India to build the dam to control flood though i can`t give valid proof except for this blogDhaka Proposed Tipaimukh Dam: ex-FM and this Policy Research Group - Strategic Insight - Tipaimukh Dam: In Whose Interest
Especially the last link, it might help BD people to review there opposition. More i read BD opposition more i believe in Tshering22`s view of anti India forces behind this..

 

[Tshering22]

To be honest i never thought of this foreign hand thing, thanks for pointing out.Besides there are lots of BDeshi member here who talk of stuff like breaking up and annexing N.E by pushing illegal migrnats and stuff like that.In there dreams may be .. but as far as Tipaimukh is concerned i think it too late for any one to do anything to stop it..

That is because they haven't come across you Naga warriors or us Bhutia tribes as of yet. If any of these internet warriors had an idea, they won't be talking in this manner.

 

[zootinali]

That is because they haven't come across you Naga warriors or us Bhutia tribes as of yet. If any of these internet warriors had an idea, they won't be talking in this manner.

Ahem Bodo (kacahri) from Assam actually

 

[Avisheik]

Let me do a research about Arsenic story, then I will reply regarding that, but surely the way Bangladeshi politicians hype the issues than it is actually is. But the thing is, Ganga water is itself highly polluted, I am afraid that anybody in Bangladesh will be using it for domestic consumption.

Well, the two parties are complaining against india, so yeah i do think there is a lot of importance to this matter.

By the time the water reaches the deltas, it usually looks quite clean. I am not sure about ganges, but village ppl still take water from the river for irrigation, washing clothes, sometimes for drinking

 

[idune]

You have lot of under-ground water and rich rainfall every year, my native village is on the Bank of Ganga river and nobody use it for irrigation and daily use. Its funny that you are dying of thirst.

Stop the crappy off topic subject of ground water and bihar experience; these are irrelevant. it really does not matter what gorund water or rain Bangladesh has what really matters india is divertng natural flow of intl river an depriving lower reparian country like Bangladesh. As a result Banglaesh is becoming desert and addtional 30 mllon people will loose their living an livelyhood.

 

[patna_ke_presley]

Stop the crappy off topic subject of ground water and bihar experience; these are irrelevant. it really does not matter what gorund water or rain Bangladesh has what really matters india is divertng natural flow of intl river an depriving lower reparian country like Bangladesh. As a result Banglaesh is becoming desert and addtional 30 mllon people will loose their living an livelyhood.

Show me where did Bangladesh become desert after Farakka Barrage. Bangladesh has one of the highest rainfall in the world, it sounds funny that Farakka Barage has turned Bangldesh into desert. Bangaldeshi politicians always are in search of an issue to use India as a scapegoat. And it has got one right now.

My point was Bangladesh is making hype of Tipaimukh Dam by false theory of desertification and Earth-quakes. You just need to tell India how much water you want from Barak River and also please also provide Information how much of them you waste that into Bay of Bengal.

 

[patna_ke_presley]

Ahem Bodo (kacahri) from Assam actually

I heard Gegong Apong some 6-7 years ago that Arunachal Pradesh can solely fulfill electricity requirement of 1/3 of India. Happy to see NE region is getting lots of rail lines,power plants etc.

 

[patna_ke_presley]

Well, the two parties are complaining against india, so yeah i do think there is a lot of importance to this matter.

By the time the water reaches the deltas, it usually looks quite clean. I am not sure about ganges, but village ppl still take water from the river for irrigation, washing clothes, sometimes for drinking

We know this attitude, it is there in every democratic country because political parties want support of the masses and they have to show that they can solve this matter better than rival political party, sometimes even talking impossible. When Obama supported India's UNSC seat, we saw same attitude in Pakistan.

We have constructed Tehri Dam in Uttarakhand of 2400MW capacity and UP & Bihar never turned into desert. So, Tipaimukh is being projected more as a hype than actual issues. Actual issue is how much water Bangladeshi want from this river for domestic consumption.

 

[Al-zakir]

I would like the participants of this thread to read the following:

1) A dam may cause positive effects to the population living downstream if its desired purpose is so. During rainy season the dam retains excess water, thus causing less floods in the downstream. During lean season it releases the retained water to the turbines to produce electricity.
(2) This released water goes downstream that will increase the supply of water than before. It means, it is possible to make more water available during lean seasons if the purpose of a dam is so.

Very true if the dam was going to be build and control by us. However, this will be build in hostile land by hostile enemy.

3) However, Indian desire is not explicit. Tipaimukh Dam may release water for the sole purpose of irrigating only the Indian farmlands downstream, thus depriving Bangladesh. Only sending a survey team to the proposed site by the BNP and the GoB is not sufficient to know about the Indian intention.

Absolutely will happen. Main purpose of this dam is to either deprive Bd or squeezed us for something else. Bloody Bharti can not be trusted.

4) They must seek data such as the rainwater catchment area, water discharge capacity at the outlets, water retaining capacity of lake, height (or HEAD as the engineers denote) and other dimensions of the dam, power generation capacity of each turbine etc. When these are available to them, they should do their own calculations to know how the dam will effect/affect downstream Bangladesh.

We have been seeking and Bharti has been throwing our request to dustbin. Bharti doesn't respect us as sovereign and independent nation.

5) Moreover, there must be a Tipai treaty between Bangladesh and India on the flows of Tipai water to the former before a dam is built..

Example of Farakka and Teesta in front of us. If they did not keep their promise in the past then how can you expect anything positive this time?

 

[eastwatch]

Show me where did Bangladesh become desert after Farakka Barrage. Bangladesh has one of the highest rainfall in the world, it sounds funny that Farakka Barage has turned Bangldesh into desert. Bangaldeshi politicians always are in search of an issue to use India as a scapegoat. And it has got one right now.

My point was Bangladesh is making hype of Tipaimukh Dam by false theory of desertification and Earth-quakes. You just need to tell India how much water you want from Barak River and also please also provide Information how much of them you waste that into Bay of Bengal.

Indians seem to be the most ignorant people in the world without a proper knowledge of their surroundings. Why the rainfall matters when it cannot be used because the land becomes over-flooded? We need water during lean period. But, India takes away this water. India uses this withdrawn water to develop its own agriculture, and export quite a part of the production to BD.