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Revolution in Pakistan due or not!

Do you think that an Egypt or Tunisia like revolution work in Pakistan?

  • Yes it will as people are tired and they will opt for a change.

    Votes: 13 39.4%
  • No, as one ruling elite will be replaced by another.

    Votes: 20 60.6%

  • Total voters
    33
I am all in with what ever I can help with, tell me how can I help or start this.

Glad to hear that but before this, i must confess that I am just 15.
If you have a look at the facebbok page in my sig, that the maximum I can do now. I really am pleased with the way people great me and appreciate my idea when I share it with them, but this is serious thing and I am not ready to take it until the end of my O levels. If I decide to join PAF after passing my ISSB, then I will leave all my current plans to someone to carry it on, if not, then I would start this camapign or NGO, and take the first step towards new Pakistan :)
All I have now are plans. Sorry.
 
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@ Last Hope


You know I admire the fact that you are thinking about it at the age of 15 heck when I was that old, I didnt even care about what I was to do tom let alone thinking about making a difference in any one else's life. I hope and pray that May Allah grant you your wish, and may he give us all the courage to make a +ve difference in our lives and in the life of others.
 
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Allah says in Quran " ma zalimo ko murwata hon zalimon say " so as a "nation"(I use the term v v loosely) we are morally bank-corrupt as long as we don't change ourselves we will face these rulers and situations forever so we should try to change ourselves first and no trust me no revolution in Pakistan because we follow a very badly shaped democracy and in democracy revolution never comes it happens in monarchy this is there best trick they ever pulled on us deen should be separated from duniya this the idea which gained fame in 17th century in Europe and they came here and they applied here perfectly as still today we are following that as a nation
 
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@ Last Hope


You know I admire the fact that you are thinking about it at the age of 15 heck when I was that old, I didnt even care about what I was to do tom let alone thinking about making a difference in any one else's life. I hope and pray that May Allah grant you your wish, and may he give us all the courage to make a +ve difference in our lives and in the life of others.

Thanks for that, I surely would need that. One more problem i found wit in ourselves is, we are all praying to Allah for a change, whereas we all must do it ourself! We are the ones on whom the country is depending, but we just sit in home, and pray and wait for a change. Agreed that prayers must also be done but we can never expect any direct miracle. It has to be in a indirect form, and who knows that indirect form is you? Ain't that worth it, sacrificing you life for the miserable lives of millions?
Regards.
 
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Imran, indeed seemed like a breath of fresh air, but so far i haven't been able to determine his political status since he has also been seen rubbing shoulders with the Maulana types. However, on the ground level, albeit we have repeatedly been disappointed by our ruling elites, none the less the situation is not as grave as say Tunisia or Egypt. General Elections are often held in Pakistan, if anything, the public brings it upon itself to be ruled by the likes of Sharifs , Zardaris or others. Unlike the other countries, the independent TV Channels and related media in Pakistan has brought about something of a revolution, thus invoking major awareness amongst the masses. A friend who has just returned from a visit to Pakistan, speaks in astonishment as to what is generally portrayed and what is the ground reality. Even with all the shortcomings, he was pleasantly surprised with the confidence and resolve of the Pakistani Public. The tragedy is that what has accumulated over the past 60 odd years, will not or cannot be eradicated over night, and as we witness in Tunisia, there is no guarantee that a revolution will bring about anything positive. Albeit I am no supporter of any of the political parties, but we should at least wait until this government completes it's tenure and then decide through the ballet box. This is at least one opportunity we are privileged to have!!!.... Just my two cents.
 
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things have to get worse to spark it I think.....and unfortunately given the current realities in Pakistan, a ''revolution'' would be quite bloody and messy

not soft and RELATIVELY peaceful as in Tunisia....


the conditions need to be ripe for revolution; and that is one thing the people who say ''revolution revolution revolution'' in Pakistan dont realize......you dont just wake up one day after eating raas milai with rusk and suddenly become a revolutionary among the masses.

if the justice system, police, and local governance were effective rather than inept --there would be no need for one.


also, the mentality is different....clearly, Tunisians on individual level felt confident enough to be able to be catalyst for change.

in Pakistan, the common man is facing many economic pressures.....in Pakistan, people pray to God that things will improve for them and they just manage ---through the good and through the hardships.


we are passive, and we just accept our fate --whatever it is......revolutionaries say ''f*ck this status quo -- if nobody is gonna change this halaat then I will do it myself''


we are a collectivist society.....once the people have mobilized, after identifying what are the issues of contention against the system, they dont stop until change is brought in


lets also learn to define what is revolution in Pakistan......if revolution in Pakistan means a mob breaking into Aiwane Sadr and lynching Zardari --that isnt a revolution. That is murder.

maybe the common man should think of INTERNAL revolution whereby people fix their own mentality also; put more value and investment into the youth of the country and empower them; and ALWAYS no matter base your decisions on how good they are not just for family but also for community.....stop thinking about making quick personal gains at the expense of others


only a real strong nationalist leader who can reach out to the bottom echelon of society can bring such changes.....common man doesnt trust current govt. because they are viewed as the looters and exploiters.


Egypt and Pakistan are 2 countries which will be interesting to watch.....both facing some similar issues, and both with reasonably large populations in which wealth gap does exist
 
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oh and by the way ---- it's easy to talk crap on the net


next time elections come, grow a pair be a MAN and VOTE....



dont be lazy










edit: didnt mean to offend women voters...... :D
 
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We cannot have a revolution, untill we dont have a strong patriotic figure to follow.
Imran Khan comes to mind, but he is just one man show.
 
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i think over the years Imran Khan has matured a little bit.....question is, can he secure majority votes throughout Pakistan?

can he address the unique needs of the individual provinces?
 
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Smells like revolution, but not in Pakistan


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I recently visited Egypt with friends. Our trip started in Luxor (once known as the city of Thebes) where we gazed in awe at some of the wonders of the ancient world. We munched on falafels, sipped on mint tea, smoked shisha, and sailed along the Nile. We drove along the Sinai coast, snorkelled in the Red Sea, and sunbathed in Sharm el Sheikh. In the metropolis of Cairo we shopped at the Khan el Khalili market, visited the Egyptian Museum, and made difficult dinner choices from an array of international cuisines. We had a fantastic time – good enough to write about in a travel blog.

But that was some weeks ago.

Today, airlines from all over the world are sending chartered flights to Cairo to bring their citizens back home. Over the last week, scores of tourists have seen their holiday take an unexpected turn. Massive street protests demanding the ouster of President Hosni Mubarak have paralysed day to day activity in the Egyptian capital. On Sunday, January 30, over 10,000 protesters gathered in Tahrir Square, in downtown Cairo.

Shocked or in awe?

Efforts by the Egyptian military to dissipate protests have largely been unsuccessful despite the use of bullets, tear gas, and tanks. The people of Egypt are clearly enraged; they hold their president responsible for unemployment, food inflation, and poverty. At this point it looks likely that the thousands of protestors on the streets may very well achieve their goal – the end of Mubarak’s 29 year reign.

For some, this state of affairs is shocking; for many others it is spectacular. Egyptians seem to have been roused from complacence. They seem to have realised ‘If not us then who? If not now then when?’

This story is all the more compelling, given recent events in Tunisia, earlier in January, where President Zine el Abidine Ben Ali was forced to flee for his life after riots erupted in the city of Sidi Bouzid. Like Egypt, Tunisia was ruled by a dictator who had been in power for nearly 25 years. Years of imbalances had resulted in growing inequality as well as rampant joblessness, particularly among the educated youth.

Revolution is in the air

Worth noting is that the same socio economic conditions are not uncommon in other Arab countries and it now seems possible that the resultant sense of injustice could bring people out onto the streets in places such as Algeria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen. Arab rulers appear to be aware of this and efforts have been made in some Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) countries to make food and fuel more affordable. Though measures such as these might play a role in calming emotions, they have not been enough to quell the notion that revolution is in the air.

Should the sentiment of rebellion endure as an appropriate response to economic injustice, Pakistanis may feel that they too have a role to play. After all, if the citizens of Cairo can be incensed despite having uninterrupted electricity, solid infrastructure, inexpensive fuel, and almost no crime, Karachiites protesting on the street should come as a surprise to no one.

Pakistan will not stir

Past experience suggests that it is likely that the events in Arab countries will leave Pakistan unchanged. Protests only become spontaneous after a certain critical mass is reached. Before that, they are contrived.

Protesters tend to be successful in making an impression when they are united by one or two straightforward demands. In the case of Egypt this is the departure of Hosni Mubarak. Also, protests need to be planned by organisers. In Egypt this was possible thanks to opposition parties who were proficient with Facebook, Twitter, and cell phone text messaging.

Protesters demanding regime change also need to present either a viable alternative or demand fresh elections. In Egypt, street activity has gained momentum as opposition groups have expressed their support for Mohamed el Baradei, a Nobel peace laureate and former head of the United Nations’ nuclear watchdog agency. In the absence of any efforts to create similar options in Pakistan, disgruntled Pakistanis are likely to remain just that.
 
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what good revolution is doing??

have we got rid of americans in iraq, are iraqis doing revolution against the invaders and looters???

are iraqis against the criminals CIA baster*s??? who come to iraq being the diplomats and then start killing spree???, the diplomats are undercover criminals???

what good is revolution if it doesnt make a nation realize their original strength and prefer cookies for the gold??

poverty, injustice, prejudice etc comes from the root of all evils which is america, we need to kick all americans before we see a successful revolution, if revolution only means diferent people same ideology that is loyalty to americfa then better no revolution
 
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Revolution is something we envision will fix everything but the thing is Pakistan needs a leader, and there really is no one to revolt against, PPP will be leaving in a while. PPP just got hold of Pakistan they are starting to once again find out how to run Pakistan without a dictator.

The only person that comes close to being a true leader is Imran Khan. It's Pakistanis need to fix themselves the rest of the nation. The only revolution we needs is one against our bad habits and it has to be a united effort.
 
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what good revolution is doing??

have we got rid of americans in iraq, are iraqis doing revolution against the invaders and looters???

are iraqis against the criminals CIA baster*s??? who come to iraq being the diplomats and then start killing spree???, the diplomats are undercover criminals???

what good is revolution if it doesnt make a nation realize their original strength and prefer cookies for the gold??

poverty, injustice, prejudice etc comes from the root of all evils which is america, we need to kick all americans before we see a successful revolution, if revolution only means diferent people same ideology that is loyalty to americfa then better no revolution

child down ... first of all title is " Revolution in Pakistan due or not!" not "Revolution in Iraq "...
Second revolution is to make your country better ... remove corruption and corrupted leader and establish good system to run country ... not kicking Americans ..
They are in your country not forcefully but on will of your political and military elite ... one wants money and other wants weapons ....
Don't mind but stop worrying about other countries in world ..Egyptians are not shouting about Pakistan nor Iraqis ... or any other country in world.. then why the hell you want to do "Thekedari" of entire Muslim world ... American $$$$ paid your bills for importing Oil to cars in past ... in case of flood your nation was crying for America aid .. ( I can show you dozen articles about it)...
Only you can do bad or good to your self not any one else ...
 
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