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Revenge Action? Two Indian boats, 12 Indian fisherman arrested by Pakistan.

using what?

Buoys is one way. Obviously it is easier said than done .

One other way is to provide the fishermen with low cost navigational tools. Mostly these fishermen cannot afford GPS devices etc.
In the mid 2000's hundreds of fishermen were exchanged between both the countries. Wish there were lesser incidents of such straying.

Impossible mate, we are talking about nautical miles wide open oceans. And its no secret that fishermen often cross boundaries intentionally for a good catch,

Yeah i agree. Many of these cases include intentional crossing for a better catch.
 
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Buoys is one way. Obviously it is easier said than done .

One other way is to provide the fishermen with low cost navigational tools. Mostly these fishermen cannot afford GPS devices etc.
In the mid 2000's hundreds of fishermen were exchanged between both the countries. Wish there were lesser incidents of such straying.
dude, but still GPS cannot be provided to everyone
 
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I'm no English professor and correct me if I'm wrong..

self-imploded

I think the reporter meant self-immolated, implosion is an inward explosion, like a black hole.

these media nutjobs had to bend each and everything into sensational "news articles":hitwall: Damn!

Indian media thrives on hateful, over sensationalized articles. Its a means of ratings.

On a final note Arrest =/= Abduction.
 
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dude, but still GPS cannot be provided to everyone

JF- There are many low cost tones down versions of technological applications that are being done in India these days. At least India coastal states like Gujarat should explore the costs involved. Maybe a Check in-check out system at some local govt office meaning take the GPS before leaving for the waters. Return it once done.
 
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yes off course, need two to play the game.
 
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Porbandar boat blast: Pak army was in control of 2 explosives-laden vessels, say officials

The occupants of the two explosives-laden boats from Karachi which had entered the Indian waters off Gujarat had plans to carry out a 26/11 type attack in Porbandar city, the officials probing the incident said.

The National Technical Research Organization (NTRO), which had recorded the radio communication between the two boats, revealed that the terrorists had plans to repeat 26/11 carnage in Porbandar.

According to the transcripts of radio communication between NTRO and the Indian Coast Guard accessed by Aaj Tak show that both the vessels were in regular contact with Pakistan's maritime agency and the army.

After the NTRO alerted the coast guard, an intensive hunt was launched for the vessels. But around 5 a.m. on December 31, one of the boats exploded when the coast guard tried to intercept it. It is believed that the crew of the boat may have set off the blast to destroy any evidence.

There is, however, so far no information on the occupants of the boat.

A conversation recorded from the second boat said the boat, which was destroyed, has done its work and has handed over the things to the other boat, but it had to return back as it developed a hole in it.

The coast guard is still in search of the second boat.



Porbandar boat blast: Pak army was in control of 2 explosives-laden vessels, say officials : India, News - India Today




 
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Zardari used to return those fishermen with gifts, hence they become habitual... its time to change the old habit
 
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Porbandar boat blast: Pak army was in control of 2 explosives-laden vessels, say officials

The occupants of the two explosives-laden boats from Karachi which had entered the Indian waters off Gujarat had plans to carry out a 26/11 type attack in Porbandar city, the officials probing the incident said.

The National Technical Research Organization (NTRO), which had recorded the radio communication between the two boats, revealed that the terrorists had plans to repeat 26/11 carnage in Porbandar.

According to the transcripts of radio communication between NTRO and the Indian Coast Guard accessed by Aaj Tak show that both the vessels were in regular contact with Pakistan's maritime agency and the army.

After the NTRO alerted the coast guard, an intensive hunt was launched for the vessels. But around 5 a.m. on December 31, one of the boats exploded when the coast guard tried to intercept it. It is believed that the crew of the boat may have set off the blast to destroy any evidence.

There is, however, so far no information on the occupants of the boat.

A conversation recorded from the second boat said the boat, which was destroyed, has done its work and has handed over the things to the other boat, but it had to return back as it developed a hole in it.

The coast guard is still in search of the second boat.



Porbandar boat blast: Pak army was in control of 2 explosives-laden vessels, say officials : India, News - India Today





Lol are these bharatis that dumb? Well I know they are morons but that dumb? :lol:
 
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Buoys is one way. Obviously it is easier said than done .

One other way is to provide the fishermen with low cost navigational tools. Mostly these fishermen cannot afford GPS devices etc.
In the mid 2000's hundreds of fishermen were exchanged between both the countries. Wish there were lesser incidents of such straying.



Yeah i agree. Many of these cases include intentional crossing for a better catch.


Facts about illegal Indian fishing activity inside Pakistan EEZ


Pakistan’s Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) of 200-nautical miles, designated by the United Nations, is overwhelmingly enriched in both living and non-living marine resources - especially the Indus Delta region has abundance of prime quality fish that entice the neighbouring Indian fishermen, who deliberately violate the international boundaries and indulge in illegal fishing activities in Pakistan’s EEZ.



Despite the best monitoring efforts of the Pakistan Maritime Security Agency (PMSA), deliberate violation of Pakistani EEZ by Indian fishermen continues causing huge losses to Pakistan’s fisheries resources. Emotional stories regarding the plight of Indian fishermen facing persecution in Pakistani jails are published. Some of the convicted fisherman, when interviewed by the media, projected the predetermined theme in a parrot-like manner. NGOs, humanitarian organisations, respectable members of the society, etc, in innocence adopt the same stance and project the fishermen as victims of the circumstances beyond their control. Arrests are blamed on the insensitivity and highhandedness of the PMSA and other Pakistani law enforcement agencies.



The PMSA, being the sole maritime law enforcement agency, undertakes concerted operational efforts to prevent the poaching activities by Indian fishermen. In this regard, besides regular deployment of ships and surveillance by aircraft, a series of focused anti-poaching operations are also conducted in the Eastern Maritime Region.



To curb this tendency, Indian boats close to the EEZ boundary (10-15 NM) are cleared from the Pakistani limits towards India.



Even among those Indian fishing boats, which intrude deeper into our EEZ, only a few boats are apprehended and majority are cleared off. Moreover, children/elderly are invariably released/let go, purely on humanitarian grounds. The extent of the illegal activity is an indication of the lure despite the peril of apprehension.



However, regular patrolling and clearing of these fishermen by the PMSA ships has progressively resulted in substantial decrease in the presence of Indian boats. During the recent past (September 2012 onwards), 131 boats and 484 crewmembers have been apprehended, which is but a mere drop in the ocean. During the trials of Indian fishermen, the Pakistani courts adopt a humanitarian view and award light sentences from one to three years for this deliberate illegal activity. Frequently, as a goodwill gesture, the government of Pakistan releases them before the end of their sentence. On the contrary, the Indian law enforcement agencies mete out very harsh punishment to the Pakistani fishermen and they are kept away from the judicial process for a long time.



According to marine experts, quality fish is available in abundance in Pakistani creeks. The Indian fishermen deliberately take risks to fish in Pakistani territorial limits. Such poaching activities not only deplete the highly priced marine species, it also inflicts a loss of Rs8.1 billion per annum to the government exchequer. During January 2012 to March 2013, 184 boats, along with 606 Indian fisher-folks, who were fishing more than 25-100 NMs inside our EEZ, were apprehended. It clearly reflects the deliberate intrusion marked by mala fide intent, especially when all the Indian boats have Global Positioning System (GPS) installed in their boats that tells the exact position of the boat. These fishermen mainly sail from Okha or Porbandar in India, which are around 115 NM (148 km) and 135 NM (250 km) (I nautical mile = 1.85 km) respectively from our EEZ.



The boats travel even further ahead of the EEZ and their deliberate acts of intrusion are done well within Pakistan’s waters. Most regrettably, some violators are apprehended even 100 nautical miles inside our waters. These incursions are not restricted to a few ‘innocent inadvertent crossers’ but at occasions number over 300 boats. The lure of the rich fish catch is extremely attractive and worth taking a calculated risk vis-à-vis the expected return. Moreover, the nets used by them are internationally banned, due to their very small mesh size.



On the contrary, any crossing by Pakistani fishermen into the Indian EEZ is indeed inadvertent as there is no fishing attraction in Indian waters. From January 2012 till end March 2013, numerous incursions of massive quantity (totalling thousands) were regularly reported in Pakistani EEZ. However, during the same period, only 12 Pakistani fishing boats were apprehended by the Indian Coast Guard units and that too in close proximity of the EEZ demarcation.



A hotline was earlier established in November 2006 for exchange of information and coordination between the two director generals. The intrusions are regularly conveyed to the Indian Coast Guards. Regrettably, the response has at best been lukewarm and no effective action to curb the ingress has been taken, indicating tacit state approval of this criminal activity.



Facts about illegal Indian fishing activity inside Pakistan EEZ - thenews.com.pk
 
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Lol. Abduction :rofl:
Hope these poor fisherman will be released soon.
 
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Place stationary buoy markers on marine borders that are well lit and visible at all times of the day. This is retarded that we have not done this yet.

This is an ongoing issue. Therefore, there should be a ring of coas guard vessels at the marine border to keep a check.
Actually they were abducted from International Marine Boundary which doesn't fall under Pakistan Maritime Boundary either, so if they do these sort of things expect Indian navy to pro actively go and abduct even Pakistani fishermen.Two sides can play the game.It's upto Pakistan how far they want to escalate this.
 
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wait so the fishermen should have GPS?
In the regions where border trespassing and subsiquent arrests are common, should not there be counter measures? If not gps, government should introduce something else. Having a mini gps device on a fishing boat doesn't sounds so bad to me.
 
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