Retired admirals reveal plan to use Australian submarines to defend Japan

[Major Shaitan Singh]

BUYING a Japanese submarine has more to do with the US alliance and protecting Japan from China than jobs or capability, according to two former Japanese admirals.

In a document obtained by News Corp, former Japanese Navy chief Vice-Admiral Yoji Koda and former submarine fleet commander Vice Admiral Masao Kobayashi argue that the “north-south cooperation” between Australia and Japan would provide “strategic and operational flexibility to the USA’s rebalancing policy”.

“This strategic relationship is a thing which no other nation can replace,” the document says.

The former admirals will tell a Royal United Services Institute conference in Adelaide later this month that cooperation between Australia and Japan on submarines would “support and enhance military capabilities of US forces deployed in this area, which, along with Japan and Australia will jointly face the same challenges.”

Talks ... US President Barack Obama, Tony Abbott and Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe at the G20 summit in Brisbane. Source: News Corp Australia

Japan has been building one submarine a year for the past 60 years and Prime Minister Tony Abbott was late last year reportedly close to announcing that Japan would build the navy’s future submarine under a deal with Japan’s Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and with the blessing of Washington.

Secret deal ... Prime Minister Tony Abbott and Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe during their visit to an iron ore mine in the Pilbara, Western Australia. Picture: Gary Ramage Source: News Corp Australia

However Japan has never exported any military technology let alone its most sensitive submarine technology.

Under pressure over a possible “secret deal” with Japan the Abbott Government has announced a competitive evaluation process involving Japan, Germany and France.

The designer of the Collins Class boats, Swedish firm Kockums now owned by Saab, was excluded from the deal despite its leading edge technology and 100-year history.

Cutting edge ... the type 216 submarine from German builder Thyssen Krupp Marine Systems (TKMS). Picture courtesy TKMS. Source: Supplied

“A submarine’s ability to ambush and intercept surface and sub-surface shipping in narrow waters will be an ideal capability to meet Japan’s strategic objectives and JMSDF’s (Japan Maritime Self Defence Force) mission of controlling choke points in the south-western Island chain in the future,” the Admirals say.

“At the same time an enhanced submarine capability of the RAN (Royal Australian Navy) will firmly support showing Australia’s strategic intent to deter illegal or aggressive actions by any one nation against neighbouring nations, as well as deter potential adversaries.”

A retired American submariner, who asked to remain anonymous, told News Corp Australia that buying a Japanese sub would create a risk for Australia in terms of possible “mistaken identity” given the identical “signatures” of the boats.

Risk ... a Japanese Soryu Class submarine at sea. Picture: Supplied Source: Supplied

Without mentioning China by name the ex-admirals go on to say that Australia’s “determined strategic signals” would have a strong and stabilising influence on the complicated situations in the South China Sea.

China has been flexing its military muscles in this disputed region for several years.

Big guns ... in this photo released by China's Xinhua news agency, a destroyer of the South China Sea Fleet of the Chinese Navy fires a missile during training in the South China Sea. Picture: AP Source: AP

“These independent effects will support and enhance military capabilities of US forces deployed in this area, which along with Japan and Australia will jointly face the same challenges,” they say.

Strategy ... the Japanese Maritime Defence Force's destroyer Kongo launces a missile off Hawaii. Source: AFP

The admirals say that close security coordination reinforced by possible industrial cooperation between the two US allies would accelerate the US push to the Indo-Asia-Pacific region.

“And eventually help to deter a potential adversary’s adventurism.”

 

[Superboy]

Australia cannot build any submarine. Australia can't even built its own car.

 

[salarsikander]

Australia cannot build any submarine. Australia can't even built its own car.

And yet Australia takes so many refugees like you on asylum

 

[Carlosa]

Australia cannot build any submarine. Australia can't even built its own car.

Who build the Collins class then? New Zealand?

 

[Roybot]

Australia cannot build any submarine. Australia can't even built its own car.

Not to forget Australia can not into DSI

 

[xdrive]

Australia cannot build any submarine. Australia can't even built its own car.

Australia built its current submarine and had a large car manufacturing industry. Try researching things before you speak.

 

[Penguin]

Australia cannot build any submarine. Australia can't even built its own car.

And you can't even google a wiki page.

Construction[edit]
The Australian Submarine Corporation construction facility was established on previously undeveloped land on the bank of the Port River, at Osborne, South Australia.[10] Work on the site began on 29 June 1987, and it was opened in November 1989.[10][35] South Australia was selected as the site of the construction facility based on the proposed location of the facility and promises by the State Government to help minimise any problems caused by workers unions.[36] The state's bid was aided by careful promotion to both Kockums and IKL/HDW during early in the project, and problems with the other states' proposals: Tasmania and Western Australia lacked the necessary industrial base, New South Wales could not decide on the location of the construction facility, Victoria's proposed site was poorly sited, and building in Liberal-led Queensland would have been politically unwise for the project when Labor was in power both federally and in all other states.[36]


The Australian Submarine Corporation construction facility, where the six submarines were assembled

Each submarine was constructed in six sections, each consisting of several sub-sections.[37] One of the main criteria of the project was that Australian industries contribute to at least 60% of the work; by the conclusion of the project 70% of the construction and 45% of the software preparation had been completed by Australian-owned companies.[23] Work was sub-contracted out to 426 companies across twelve countries, plus numerous sub-sub-contractors.[35] In many cases, components for the first submarine were constructed by companies outside Australia, while those for the following five boats were replicated by an Australian-owned partner or subsidiary.[38] The project prompted major increases in quality control standards across Australian industries: in 1980, only 35 Australian companies possessed the appropriate quality control certifications for Defence projects, but by 1998 this had increased to over 1,500.[39]
Although the acquisition project organisers originally planned for the first submarine to be constructed overseas, the Cabinet decided as part of the project's approval that all six submarines would be built in Australia; the increases in construction time and cost from not building the lead ship in the winning designer's home shipyard was considered to be offset by the additional experience provided to Australian industries.[40] Even so, two sections of the first submarine were constructed by Kockums' shipyard in Malmo, Sweden.[38]
By the end of 1990, Chicago Bridge & Iron and Wormald International had both sold their shares in ASC.[41] The shares were bought up by Kockums and the Australian Industry Development Corporation, with some of Kockums' shares then sold to James Hardie Industries to maintain an Australian majority ownership of the company.[41] On 5 April 2000, the shares in ASC held by Kockums were bought out and the company was nationalised, despite a trend at the time to privatise government-owned companies.[42] At the end of 2003, a contract to maintain the Collins class worth $3.5 billion over 25 years was awarded to ASC.[43]

Collins-class submarine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

GM Holden Ltd, commonly designated Holden, is an Australian automaker that operates in Australasia and is headquartered in Port Melbourne, Victoria. The company was founded in 1856 as a saddlery manufacturer in South Australia. In 1908 it moved into the automotive field, before becoming a subsidiary of the United States-based General Motors (GM) in 1931. After becoming a subsidiary of GM, the company was named General Motors-Holden's Ltd, becoming Holden Ltd in 1998—the current name was adopted in 2005.
Holden is responsible for GM's vehicle operations in Australasia, and on their behalf, held partial ownership of GM Daewoo in South Korea between 2002 and 2009. Holden has offered a broad range of locally produced vehicles, supplemented by imported GM models. Holden has offered the following badge engineered models in sharing arrangements: Chevrolet, Isuzu, Nissan, Opel, Suzuki, Toyota and Vauxhall Motors. As of 2013, the vehicle lineup consists of models from GM Korea, GM Thailand, GM in the US, and self-developed Commodore, Caprice, and Ute. Holden also distributed the European Opel brand in Australia in 2012 until the brand's Australian demise in mid-2013.[1]
All Australian-built Holden vehicles are manufactured at Elizabeth, South Australia, and engines are produced at the Fishermans Bend plant in Port Melbourne, Victoria. Historically, production or assembly plants were operated in all mainland states of Australia, with GM's New Zealand subsidiary Holden New Zealand operating a plant until 1990. The consolidation of car production at Elizabeth was completed in 1988, but some assembly operations continued at Dandenong until 1996.

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Holden Australia - New & Used Cars, Offers, Prices & Dealers

Not to forget Australia can not into DSI

 

[Aepsilons]

Seriously , @Superboy , think before you post.